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aZa · 16th March 2006, 18:54

Stuff without bill => GREY
Imported stuff not available thru official channels => GREY

No Bill = No warranty = No insurance

furioussphinx · 17th March 2006, 14:52

thanxs a lot aZA, thats

furioussphinx · 17th March 2006, 14:53

thanxs a lot aZA, thats the one huh

parijnan · 21st March 2006, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by prince85

Heh parijnan, this is with reference to the post No.2 by you. Well, you mentioned that the pioneer 5750 has 2 preouts whereas the 6750 has 3 preouts. I think you are wrong on that bro. Infact its the other way round, 5750 comes with 3 preouts and the 6750 comes with 2 preouts. i have personally used both, 6750 has a OEL Organic Display with dolphins and stuff. Both are priced similarly in the grey market at around 7k.

Cheers

I had mentioned that the 5750 has 3 preouts and 6750 has 2 preouts. I bought a 5750 because it has 3 preouts.

It is the 5850 (the 2006 model) which has 2 preouts and 6850 has 3 preouts. And now the 5850 too has a blue OEL display.

prince85 · 22nd March 2006, 00:28

Oh is it so parijnan, i am sorry then coz i misread your post. You are right then, the Pioneer 5850 comes with 2 preouts and the 6850 with 3, while the 2005 models ie the 5750 came with 3 outs and the 6750 with 2 preouts. My apologies once again.

Cheers

parijnan · 22nd March 2006, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by prince85

Oh is it so parijnan, i am sorry then coz i misread your post. You are right then, the Pioneer 5850 comes with 2 preouts and the 6850 with 3, while the 2005 models ie the 5750 came with 3 outs and the 6750 with 2 preouts. My apologies once again.

Cheers

No problems man. Anybody knows how much the the new 6850 costs in the grey market??

prince85 · 22nd March 2006, 23:13

The Pioneer 6850 is available in mumbai for 9.5k(grey)

. Hope it helps.

Cheers!

prince85 · 22nd March 2006, 23:14

BTW, Parijnan if you looking for a pioneer 6850, then at maybe a slightly higher price why don't you look at the Pioneer P1Y. IMHO, Damn good HU man

parijnan · 23rd March 2006, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by prince85

BTW, Parijnan if you looking for a pioneer 6850, then at maybe a slightly higher price why don't you look at the Pioneer P1Y. IMHO, Damn good HU man

I was quoted 15,000 for a P1Y. Way over my budget. I'm pretty happy with my 5750 but was just wondering what I would have got if I had waited for 2006

. Anyway, my next upgrade will be a good set of compos.

prince85 · 23rd March 2006, 23:31

i got a Pioneer P1Y for my esteem(which is now given on hire basis) in october last year and it cost me 12.5k. Now i am using an alpine HU-9833 in my other esteem (i thought it was 9857 the whole time)

coz my uncle got it from dubai without any packaging and he told me it was 9857, i only came to know when he reached mumbai that it was a 9833

. Anyways, i still feel that the Pioneer P1Y better in terms of SQ compared to even an alpine 9833. I recently checked out the price of the P1Y and i was told that its 12k. I expect it to cheaper in bangalore. Wonder why you are being quoted 15k?

navin · 24th March 2006, 10:09

Funny. I have heard the P1Y nad 9833 and much prefered the 9833. Different strokes for different folks I guess. This is one example why I have time and again requested members to use their ears and not go by here say. What's good for the goose might not be good for the gander.

prince85 · 24th March 2006, 11:16

Navinji , i guess it all boils down to personal tastes. I had never heard an alpine till i became a member in team-Bhp, i used to always feel that Pioneer is the best in the market

and there are better ones only in the higher budget (nakamichi, eclipse etc), but team-bhp made me believe that alpine is better. So, i was eager to get myself an alpine. Got a 9833 and found it not so good when playing the mids and the highs, lows were equal to the pio if not better.

Navinji, maybe its the speakers that are the culprit. I am using the JBL GTO 936 at the back and Kicker 4 inch components in the front. Maybe the speakers are not ideal for the Alpine. I remember clearly, you saying somewhere in the forum that you feel that the Infinity speakers are better suited when using an Alpine Head-Unit, and the JBL speakers are better suited when using a Pioneer Head-Unit. But IMHO, i liked the P1Y more than the 9833 but not by much(for my existing setup). I am planning to upgrade my JBL GTO 936 to Infinity Kappa 6 x 9 shortly so i am just waittng to get myself some perfect music.

Navinji, i am also planning to add an Alpine 4 ch amplifier for my front and rear speakers. Front 4 inch components have a max rating of 70w pmpo and continous power of 35w rms. Should i go in for Alpine mrp-240 at 10k or Alpine mrv-340 at 20k or Alpine mrv-345 at 19k. Is there any significant difference between the 240 and the 340,345 which is worth the price difference in terms of SQ? Please help!

Cheers

navin · 24th March 2006, 11:31

The JBL and Kicker you have are fine. Yes there are a lot of Alpine - Infinity systems out there but I dont think I ever recommended JBL-Pioneer. In fact I think since both Pio and JBL are forward sounding mating the 2 might make the system too forward. Some might even like this sound. I am a fan of a laid back sound. I also realise the I like my sound more laid back than most people.

I undersand that the 340 is not available anymore. it is a good amp I use one too. :-) I'd choose the 345 over the 340 today. the 240 is half the price and offers the same SQ albeit not the same power.

Lastly I suggest there is no real need to get teh Inifnity Kappa over the 936. teh Kappas are definitely smoother sounding but you have good components int the front and the 936 is only for rear fill. The Kappa are not cheap.

horsepower · 24th March 2006, 11:41

hi! Furioussphinx, I have DEH-P5750MP installed in my car and other two cars. It is a great system and costs around 7200 in grey market. If you are going for it make sure that installer takes care while connecting speakers with system. In my friends case he connected speakers with the Subwoofer output in the unit. speakers were not able to handle it and they went kaput. They were already connected to amplifier. Speakers pioneer 6991.

Bass&Trouble · 24th March 2006, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Funny. I have heard the P1Y nad 9833 and much prefered the 9833. Different strokes for different folks I guess. This is one example why I have time and again requested members to use their ears and not go by here say. What's good for the goose might not be good for the gander.

I just couldn't agree more with Navin.

Secondly, between the 5750 and the P1Y (or the 7750), I personally like the output of the 5750 better. It has played cleaner in all the installs I have heard, over both the P1Y and the 7750 with almost identical speakers/ amps. Maybe the display drained most of my listening power, but I have this eerie underlying feeling of satisfaction with the 5750 over the higher priced Pioneer compatriots.

16th March 2006, 18:54	#16
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Stuff without bill => GREY Imported stuff not available thru official channels => GREY No Bill = No warranty = No insurance
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17th March 2006, 14:52	#17
furioussphinx BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 536 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	thanxs a lot aZA, thats
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17th March 2006, 14:53	#18
furioussphinx BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 536 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	thanxs a lot aZA, thats the one huh
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22nd March 2006, 00:28	#20
prince85 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 971 Thanked: 123 Times	Oh is it so parijnan, i am sorry then coz i misread your post. You are right then, the Pioneer 5850 comes with 2 preouts and the 6850 with 3, while the 2005 models ie the 5750 came with 3 outs and the 6750 with 2 preouts. My apologies once again. Cheers
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22nd March 2006, 23:13	#22
prince85 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 971 Thanked: 123 Times	The Pioneer 6850 is available in mumbai for 9.5k(grey) . Hope it helps. Cheers! Last edited by prince85 : 22nd March 2006 at 23:15.
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22nd March 2006, 23:14	#23
prince85 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 971 Thanked: 123 Times	BTW, Parijnan if you looking for a pioneer 6850, then at maybe a slightly higher price why don't you look at the Pioneer P1Y. IMHO, Damn good HU man Last edited by prince85 : 22nd March 2006 at 23:17.
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23rd March 2006, 23:31	#25
prince85 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 971 Thanked: 123 Times	i got a Pioneer P1Y for my esteem(which is now given on hire basis) in october last year and it cost me 12.5k. Now i am using an alpine HU-9833 in my other esteem (i thought it was 9857 the whole time) coz my uncle got it from dubai without any packaging and he told me it was 9857, i only came to know when he reached mumbai that it was a 9833 . Anyways, i still feel that the Pioneer P1Y better in terms of SQ compared to even an alpine 9833. I recently checked out the price of the P1Y and i was told that its 12k. I expect it to cheaper in bangalore. Wonder why you are being quoted 15k?
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24th March 2006, 10:09	#26
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,306 Times	Funny. I have heard the P1Y nad 9833 and much prefered the 9833. Different strokes for different folks I guess. This is one example why I have time and again requested members to use their ears and not go by here say. What's good for the goose might not be good for the gander.
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24th March 2006, 11:16	#27
prince85 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 971 Thanked: 123 Times	Navinji , i guess it all boils down to personal tastes. I had never heard an alpine till i became a member in team-Bhp, i used to always feel that Pioneer is the best in the market and there are better ones only in the higher budget (nakamichi, eclipse etc), but team-bhp made me believe that alpine is better. So, i was eager to get myself an alpine. Got a 9833 and found it not so good when playing the mids and the highs, lows were equal to the pio if not better. Navinji, maybe its the speakers that are the culprit. I am using the JBL GTO 936 at the back and Kicker 4 inch components in the front. Maybe the speakers are not ideal for the Alpine. I remember clearly, you saying somewhere in the forum that you feel that the Infinity speakers are better suited when using an Alpine Head-Unit, and the JBL speakers are better suited when using a Pioneer Head-Unit. But IMHO, i liked the P1Y more than the 9833 but not by much(for my existing setup). I am planning to upgrade my JBL GTO 936 to Infinity Kappa 6 x 9 shortly so i am just waittng to get myself some perfect music. Navinji, i am also planning to add an Alpine 4 ch amplifier for my front and rear speakers. Front 4 inch components have a max rating of 70w pmpo and continous power of 35w rms. Should i go in for Alpine mrp-240 at 10k or Alpine mrv-340 at 20k or Alpine mrv-345 at 19k. Is there any significant difference between the 240 and the 340,345 which is worth the price difference in terms of SQ? Please help! Cheers
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24th March 2006, 11:31	#28
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,306 Times	The JBL and Kicker you have are fine. Yes there are a lot of Alpine - Infinity systems out there but I dont think I ever recommended JBL-Pioneer. In fact I think since both Pio and JBL are forward sounding mating the 2 might make the system too forward. Some might even like this sound. I am a fan of a laid back sound. I also realise the I like my sound more laid back than most people. I undersand that the 340 is not available anymore. it is a good amp I use one too. :-) I'd choose the 345 over the 340 today. the 240 is half the price and offers the same SQ albeit not the same power. Lastly I suggest there is no real need to get teh Inifnity Kappa over the 936. teh Kappas are definitely smoother sounding but you have good components int the front and the 936 is only for rear fill. The Kappa are not cheap.
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24th March 2006, 11:41	#29
horsepower BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 281 Thanked: Once View My Garage	hi! Furioussphinx, I have DEH-P5750MP installed in my car and other two cars. It is a great system and costs around 7200 in grey market. If you are going for it make sure that installer takes care while connecting speakers with system. In my friends case he connected speakers with the Subwoofer output in the unit. speakers were not able to handle it and they went kaput. They were already connected to amplifier. Speakers pioneer 6991.
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