Pioneer 2150

autopsyche · 28th March 2006, 23:35

Right aza, Seen and heard a lot of people talk about the legendary Ikkkissssss Pachaaassss!! People swear by these speakers in north india.

panky12345 · 29th March 2006, 10:37

the new ones are NOT made in japan; but am getting it for 3.5K second hand "made in japan"....i agree with evereyone that people here in delhi (or north india) swear by ikkkkkkiisss pacchhhaaaass.
Any inputs on alternatives with indicative prices plz.....(DEFINITELY BETTER SPL & SQ)

busted · 29th March 2006, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by panky12345

everybody in the market seems to be too fascinated with pioneer 2150 helmet type speakers, some say its not original these days, some say its not as powerful as it used to be....any inputs on performance or better alternatives plz? (with indicative price)

PIONEER 2150 are still good but try out the new Jbl paper cone speakers series

panky12345 · 29th March 2006, 14:04

i dont know why but i found audiobahn AS69Q (200 W RMS) sounding PRETTY CREEP in front of TS2150.

see 4 urself:

6" x 9" 3-Way Speakers
200W RMS Power Handling / Pair
400W Max Power Handling / Pair
Frequency Response: 25Hz - 20kHz
Sensitivity: 95dB
Chrome Plated Basket
40 Oz. Magnet
Mounting Depth: 3-1/2"
Audiobahn Window Sticker
Swivel Tweeters
Removable Tweeter for Remote Mounting
Black Carbon Injection Cone
Butyl Rubber Surround
2-Layer Hi-Temp ASV Voice Coil
4 Ohm Operation
Polyswitch Tweeter Protection Circuit
Complete w/Grills And Hardware
Flush & Surface Tweeter Mounts

Everything seems to be so perfect, high RMS, high sensitivity (95 db) etc. But they are FFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR inferior (both SQ and SPL) when it comes to sony XSGT6936 (60 W RMS, 90 db) or pioneer TS-6991 (80 W RMS) or pioneer TS 2150 (50 W RMS i guess).
I am TOTALLY against this brand....i bought it after reading few reviews, wasted some $ 200....and can guarantee it SUCKS!!

panky12345 · 29th March 2006, 14:06

as such....never wanted to waste any money now and go for valuable advices rather than using my brain....hehehe

busted · 29th March 2006, 14:16

DUDE DONT APPLY THESE...!!!

NEW ALPINE SPEAKERS IN MARKET...(AROUND 8K's)

navin · 29th March 2006, 16:15

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

The speakers were good, you probably schooled quite a long time back, even cds weren't around at those times, even cassettes were good then and this is becoming an extremely long sentence and a waste of good text on a perfectly ordinary speaker for the time.

what you mean long time back! I had 5" / 1" components in my Premier Padmini car in the 80s. Fortunately I had fled the country when these speakers invaded.

And as far as cassettes go B&T you should have heard what a good cassette deck could do. I mean one with a S/N of 70db and Wrms of less than 0.1%. As late as 1995-6 this deck competed with most of the CD based HUs. It had a 2 motor drive (one for capstan and one for the 2 pinch rollers).

I guess that today you can get a good pair of Coax at 4K that will offer better balanced sound than those helmets.

Sam Kapasi · 29th March 2006, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by panky12345

200W RMS Power Handling / Pair
400W Max Power Handling / Pair
Frequency Response: 25Hz - 20kHz
Sensitivity: 95dB
Chrome Plated Basket
40 Oz. Magnet
Mounting Depth: 3-1/2"
Audiobahn Window Sticker
Swivel Tweeters
Removable Tweeter for Remote Mounting
Black Carbon Injection Cone
Butyl Rubber Surround
2-Layer Hi-Temp ASV Voice Coil
4 Ohm Operation
Polyswitch Tweeter Protection Circuit
Complete w/Grills And Hardware
Flush & Surface Tweeter Mounts

Wow! Did anyone see that in the specifications? There's a window sticker!!!

panky12345 · 29th March 2006, 18:41

Yes Mr Sam, they DO come with a set of window stickers....as a part of std package; moreover i never rembered all the specs, rather copied it from the website. hope it helps....

panky12345 · 29th March 2006, 18:45

navin....wat coax at 4K....JBL?? i've listened to JBL 636 (or 936) coax - exact model # i dont remember....but they were not as good as 2150. (SPL wise)

navin · 29th March 2006, 21:37

panky, is SPL your only judge. I have not heard the 2150. I cant even find one to hear. but if they sound nicer than the JBl 636 I want a pair.

navin · 29th March 2006, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Wow! Did anyone see that in the specifications? There's a window sticker!!!

saw that laughed and kept going.

ullal_h · 3rd July 2007, 18:31

over here. they are known as cobras :P

clipto333 · 3rd July 2007, 19:52

i had these ikkis pachaas in my palio which got totalled. navinji, these speakers are not that bad. they are far better IMO than the current pio speakers. also when i switched to infinity ref 6x9s, there wasn't much difference sq wise. it was quite good at spl. i had these speakers(i had 3 pairs lol, 2 were lying unused) for like 7-8 years. this is my opinion about these 2150s so dont need to take it seriously.

cheers
clip

Sam Kapasi · 3rd July 2007, 21:21

Another thread revived after more than a year!!

28th March 2006, 23:35	#16
autopsyche Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi, Indi Posts: 1,511 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Right aza, Seen and heard a lot of people talk about the legendary Ikkkissssss Pachaaassss!! People swear by these speakers in north india.
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29th March 2006, 10:37	#17
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 172 Times	the new ones are NOT made in japan; but am getting it for 3.5K second hand "made in japan"....i agree with evereyone that people here in delhi (or north india) swear by ikkkkkkiisss pacchhhaaaass. Any inputs on alternatives with indicative prices plz.....(DEFINITELY BETTER SPL & SQ)
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29th March 2006, 14:04	#19
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 172 Times	i dont know why but i found audiobahn AS69Q (200 W RMS) sounding PRETTY CREEP in front of TS2150. see 4 urself: 6" x 9" 3-Way Speakers 200W RMS Power Handling / Pair 400W Max Power Handling / Pair Frequency Response: 25Hz - 20kHz Sensitivity: 95dB Chrome Plated Basket 40 Oz. Magnet Mounting Depth: 3-1/2" Audiobahn Window Sticker Swivel Tweeters Removable Tweeter for Remote Mounting Black Carbon Injection Cone Butyl Rubber Surround 2-Layer Hi-Temp ASV Voice Coil 4 Ohm Operation Polyswitch Tweeter Protection Circuit Complete w/Grills And Hardware Flush & Surface Tweeter Mounts Everything seems to be so perfect, high RMS, high sensitivity (95 db) etc. But they are FFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR inferior (both SQ and SPL) when it comes to sony XSGT6936 (60 W RMS, 90 db) or pioneer TS-6991 (80 W RMS) or pioneer TS 2150 (50 W RMS i guess). I am TOTALLY against this brand....i bought it after reading few reviews, wasted some $ 200....and can guarantee it SUCKS!!
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29th March 2006, 14:06	#20
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 172 Times	as such....never wanted to waste any money now and go for valuable advices rather than using my brain....hehehe
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29th March 2006, 14:16	#21
busted BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: new delhi Posts: 41 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	DUDE DONT APPLY THESE...!!! NEW ALPINE SPEAKERS IN MARKET...(AROUND 8K's)
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29th March 2006, 18:41	#24
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 172 Times	Yes Mr Sam, they DO come with a set of window stickers....as a part of std package; moreover i never rembered all the specs, rather copied it from the website. hope it helps....
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29th March 2006, 18:45	#25
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 172 Times	navin....wat coax at 4K....JBL?? i've listened to JBL 636 (or 936) coax - exact model # i dont remember....but they were not as good as 2150. (SPL wise)
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29th March 2006, 21:37	#26
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,414 Thanked: 9,972 Times	panky, is SPL your only judge. I have not heard the 2150. I cant even find one to hear. but if they sound nicer than the JBl 636 I want a pair.
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3rd July 2007, 18:31	#28
ullal_h BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mangalore Posts: 51 Thanked: 0 Times	2150 over here. they are known as cobras :P
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3rd July 2007, 19:52	#29
clipto333 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jalandhar Posts: 912 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	i had these ikkis pachaas in my palio which got totalled. navinji, these speakers are not that bad. they are far better IMO than the current pio speakers. also when i switched to infinity ref 6x9s, there wasn't much difference sq wise. it was quite good at spl. i had these speakers(i had 3 pairs lol, 2 were lying unused) for like 7-8 years. this is my opinion about these 2150s so dont need to take it seriously. cheers clip
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3rd July 2007, 21:21	#30
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,935 Thanked: 2,480 Times View My Garage	Another thread revived after more than a year!!
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