DIY: RCD 510 head-unit upgrade for VW Vento and Polo

ajaypjayaraj · 4th September 2014, 19:39

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Originally Posted by crskumar

Can someone confirm if the bluetooth module installation will be easier if I get the plug&play harness with it.

It doesn't just make the installation easier, but you really need that wiring harness to go ahead with the installation. Without the wiring harness you won't be able to hook up the BT mobule to the HU at all.

crskumar · 4th September 2014, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaypjayaraj

It doesn't just make the installation easier, but you really need that wiring harness to go ahead with the installation. Without the wiring harness you won't be able to hook up the BT mobule to the HU at all.

There are two types of harness from what I understand. The standard aftermarket one which is the one available on 95% of the listings on Aliexpress. This is the one mentioned in the DIY section - requires splicing the wires to connect to the BCM:
e.g. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/OEM-V...768278435.html

The other one comes with the plug&play harness and supposedly can be installed without splicing the wires to connect to the BCM (this according to the supplier). However I am a little hesitant because this wiring is typically packaged with 9W7 and hardly with the 9W2.
e.g. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1972697745.html

ajaypjayaraj · 4th September 2014, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by crskumar

There are two types of harness from what I understand. The standard aftermarket one which is the one available on 95% of the listings on Aliexpress. This is the one mentioned in the DIY section - requires splicing the wires to connect to the BCM:
e.g. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/OEM-V...768278435.html

The other one comes with the plug&play harness and supposedly can be installed without splicing the wires to connect to the BCM (this according to the supplier). However I am a little hesitant because this wiring is typically packaged with 9W7 and hardly with the 9W2.
e.g. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1972697745.html

Oh you meant would it be better to get the plug n play compared to the other type of wiring harness available. I din't know you were talking about 2 harnesses. Yeah then it's easier. I was wondering how did you intend to hook up the module to the HU without the wiring harness, that's why I replied so

Hells_Fury · 5th September 2014, 19:48

Does anyone have a pic of the back panel of the RCD 320 system?

sidby · 7th September 2014, 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by crskumar

From reading the whole thread, it looks like installing the RCD510 is very straight forward as long as we have the low line audio to high line audio adaptor and fakra antenna convertor. The complicated part seems to be the bluetooth module installation. Can someone confirm if the bluetooth module installation will be easier if I get the plug&play harness with it.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1972697745.html
Also is the foam needed?

You absolutely NEED, the plug and play harness. Otherwise you will end up having to pull out the aux pins, CD changer pins etc from the original quad lock connector, and then u will have to find the correct locations and pins to connect them with on the back of the HU. Alternatively, if you go about it the other way, you will end up having to connect CAN and ground wires etc etc on the original HU quadlock connector, from the Bluetooth module. It will be a nightmare. I added the BT module to my RCD 510 in my Jetta and the plug and play was a blessing. The difference in costs between the simple harness and the plug and play harness is just not worth it.

You can install the module behind the climate control. Makes life easier, and also you dont have to pull out as many trims. In case you decide to go with that, you will not require the foam, since with the foam, it simply wont fit behind the climate control.

On the harness, i cannot stress enough how important the plug and play version is. Thankfully, like you, i combed through Team-Bhp before ordering and hence knew ill need the plug and play harness. So a big thank you to all the guys out there was sharing that information.

Hope this helps

StarScream · 7th September 2014, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Hells_Fury

Does anyone have a pic of the back panel of the RCD 320 system?

Here you go - top view (with connection schematic) and back view. Something interesting occurred to me, the Ventos and Polos with the RCD 320 have the same pre-2011 connectors as shown in moralfibre's original post. The CANbus connector from the RCD 310 days is gone.

poloman · 11th September 2014, 09:55

After 4.5 years of endless struggle with the crappy RCD030 HU,finally installed RCD 510 in my Polo. I would say this is one upgrade which is worth the money in pre 2012 Polos (or even in post 2012 Polos with RCD320). I played safe and went with Vagtune for installation. So the cost was slightly above my expectations. But as detailed in this thread this is mostly a straight forward install job if one can procure all the required items from aliexpress. The tricky part however will be the location and connection of CAN bus. Also you will need a VAG-COM setup to enable the Bluetooth module. The BT mic is placed inside the reading/cabin light and the BT module behind the a/c controls. Both these tasks will need some expertise.
I opted for the Delphi system, which I found more value for money and feature rich than the Bosch one. With appropriate cables you can connect AUX, USB with out extra MDI support. In addition you can play media files from SD card and Bluetooth A2DP. The only thing you will miss is full Bluetooth call control or Super BT in the HU. All these are well explained in the first page of the thread. So I am not repeating the same.
The HU is much better than RCD030 in audio quality. Radio reception is also better. The LCD brightness even in direct sunlight is good. The interface is simple and straight forward. And more importantly the HU gives a premium look to your dash.

crskumar · 8th November 2014, 09:36

I got the RCD510 installed on the new 2014 Polo along with the VW Scirocco rearview camera. The audio system works fine but OPS and rearview output does not show up when reversing. I would appreciate it if someone can guide me on how to activate OPS and the camera on the new Polo.

ishlinea7260 · 14th November 2014, 02:52

Guys a swap from RCD320 that comes in Vento , polo and even in the comfortline Jetta to the RCD 510 that comes in Jetta Highline would be plug and play or does it require any splicing of wires?

HarshVShrotriya · 14th November 2014, 05:20

Hi Ishlinea, it will not require slicing of wire but, you may need some cable looms for everything to work properly. I will say it's not a straight away plug and play (for a person who has not played around with ICEs).

ishlinea7260 · 14th November 2014, 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarshVShrotriya

Hi Ishlinea, it will not require slicing of wire but, you may need some cable looms for everything to work properly. I will say it's not a straight away plug and play (for a person who has not played around with ICEs).

Could you please elaborate.
I am looking forward to change the RCD 320 to RCD 510, so I'll appreciate any inputs in this regard.
Thanks.

HarshVShrotriya · 14th November 2014, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by crskumar

From reading the whole thread, it looks like installing the RCD510 is very straight forward as long as we have the low line audio to high line audio adaptor and fakra antenna convertor. The complicated part seems to be the bluetooth module installation. Can someone confirm if the bluetooth module installation will be easier if I get the plug&play harness with it.

Ishlinea7260, please refer to above reply from crskumar. You need to verify if the same connectors are available with your 320. If they are, party time.

Mad Max · 8th February 2015, 15:31

I was going through our forum reading on the possible swaps for the Vento. Some have done the RCD510 swap from the older versions and a few have done custom setups (Delphi / Dynavin etc.).

My primary requirement is to have Navigation and Reverse camera functionality in the Vento along with what's currently available in the RCD310. I am seeing some RNS systems but they are all over a 1000$ in eBay.

I came across the below products in eBay US

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-VW-Volkswa...item1c4dbb3eff

and one more

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-Jetta-Pas...689205&vxp=mtr

Both of these look like fitment towards American cars but I am sure there's a correlation here with the Vento. Here are my questions to the gurus

1. How do I check if the above systems are compatible and would fit the Vento?

2. I can see the Canbus gateway listed and I understand that the RCD310 came with Canbus connection, but would all systems having Canbus be compatible?

3. How do I check radio tuning compatibility on these models?

4. Would it be possible to load India specific maps on these? If so, is there something specific I'd need to know / buy from there.

Thanks for your help!

mav2000 · 8th February 2015, 21:07

They seem to be compatible with the high line system as the picture of the second one shows the rear connector of the high line. But stay away from these. They screens may not be great and they may not be of great quality to start with.

If you are still keen message the seller and ask these questions.

mav2000 · 14th February 2015, 15:53

There is this button on the left of the system at the bottom. How do we reprogram this button?

Mine shows as no messages every time I click it, but I do remember that there was some way to program it for muting and other stuff.

5th September 2014, 19:48	#49
Hells_Fury BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 187 Thanked: 202 Times View My Garage	re: DIY: RCD 510 head-unit upgrade for VW Vento and Polo Does anyone have a pic of the back panel of the RCD 320 system?
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11th September 2014, 09:55	#52
poloman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,331 Thanked: 6,094 Times	re: DIY: RCD 510 head-unit upgrade for VW Vento and Polo After 4.5 years of endless struggle with the crappy RCD030 HU,finally installed RCD 510 in my Polo. I would say this is one upgrade which is worth the money in pre 2012 Polos (or even in post 2012 Polos with RCD320). I played safe and went with Vagtune for installation. So the cost was slightly above my expectations. But as detailed in this thread this is mostly a straight forward install job if one can procure all the required items from aliexpress. The tricky part however will be the location and connection of CAN bus. Also you will need a VAG-COM setup to enable the Bluetooth module. The BT mic is placed inside the reading/cabin light and the BT module behind the a/c controls. Both these tasks will need some expertise. I opted for the Delphi system, which I found more value for money and feature rich than the Bosch one. With appropriate cables you can connect AUX, USB with out extra MDI support. In addition you can play media files from SD card and Bluetooth A2DP. The only thing you will miss is full Bluetooth call control or Super BT in the HU. All these are well explained in the first page of the thread. So I am not repeating the same. The HU is much better than RCD030 in audio quality. Radio reception is also better. The LCD brightness even in direct sunlight is good. The interface is simple and straight forward. And more importantly the HU gives a premium look to your dash. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by poloman : 11th September 2014 at 10:00.
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8th November 2014, 09:36	#53
crskumar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Coimbatore, TN Posts: 59 Thanked: 24 Times	re: DIY: RCD 510 head-unit upgrade for VW Vento and Polo I got the RCD510 installed on the new 2014 Polo along with the VW Scirocco rearview camera. The audio system works fine but OPS and rearview output does not show up when reversing. I would appreciate it if someone can guide me on how to activate OPS and the camera on the new Polo.
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14th November 2014, 02:52	#54
ishlinea7260 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: . Posts: 473 Thanked: 545 Times	re: DIY: RCD 510 head-unit upgrade for VW Vento and Polo Guys a swap from RCD320 that comes in Vento , polo and even in the comfortline Jetta to the RCD 510 that comes in Jetta Highline would be plug and play or does it require any splicing of wires?
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14th November 2014, 05:20	#55
HarshVShrotriya BHPian Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bangalore, IN Posts: 124 Thanked: 144 Times	Hi Ishlinea, it will not require slicing of wire but, you may need some cable looms for everything to work properly. I will say it's not a straight away plug and play (for a person who has not played around with ICEs).
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8th February 2015, 15:31	#58
Mad Max BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 966 Thanked: 1,580 Times	2012 Vento ICE - Compatible systems I was going through our forum reading on the possible swaps for the Vento. Some have done the RCD510 swap from the older versions and a few have done custom setups (Delphi / Dynavin etc.). My primary requirement is to have Navigation and Reverse camera functionality in the Vento along with what's currently available in the RCD310. I am seeing some RNS systems but they are all over a 1000$ in eBay. I came across the below products in eBay US http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-VW-Volkswa...item1c4dbb3eff and one more http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-Jetta-Pas...689205&vxp=mtr Both of these look like fitment towards American cars but I am sure there's a correlation here with the Vento. Here are my questions to the gurus 1. How do I check if the above systems are compatible and would fit the Vento? 2. I can see the Canbus gateway listed and I understand that the RCD310 came with Canbus connection, but would all systems having Canbus be compatible? 3. How do I check radio tuning compatibility on these models? 4. Would it be possible to load India specific maps on these? If so, is there something specific I'd need to know / buy from there. Thanks for your help!
	(1) Thanks

8th February 2015, 21:07	#59
mav2000 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 623 Thanked: 316 Times View My Garage	They seem to be compatible with the high line system as the picture of the second one shows the rear connector of the high line. But stay away from these. They screens may not be great and they may not be of great quality to start with. If you are still keen message the seller and ask these questions.
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14th February 2015, 15:53	#60
mav2000 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 623 Thanked: 316 Times View My Garage	re: DIY: RCD 510 head-unit upgrade for VW Vento and Polo There is this button on the left of the system at the bottom. How do we reprogram this button? Mine shows as no messages every time I click it, but I do remember that there was some way to program it for muting and other stuff.
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