ICE for Indigo Marina

navin · 21st December 2008, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourWheelDrift

So here's my pitch to you guys : what can I do to get a bit more bass, without permanently losing space in the luggage compartment ?

simplest solution is a removeable boxed sub using a Neutrik Speakon connector.

abhinav.gupta88 · 21st December 2008, 18:59

Rightly said
Get a good VFM sub like Ground Zero ( 5-6k)and a 4 channel amp like JBL ( 10k approx)

and if on a budget, get a GZ ( 5-6k) and a Kenwood 8401 ( 5k approx)

FourWheelDrift · 25th December 2008, 20:18

Thanks for your responses, Navin and Abhinav.

Navin (and any other Guru in Mumbai), could you please recommend a retail outlet in South Mumbai, where I might obtain the equipment you speak of ?

Ground Zero's distributor in India seems to be :

India

Name: Adress: Contact: Hermit Audio Pvt. Ltd. #8-12, 9/D, Parel Cotton Press Compound,
Elphinstone Bridge Road, Parel (E)
Mumbai – 400019

INDIA Phone:
+91-22-2470-4048

Fax:
+91-22-3021-9099 info@hermitaudio.com
Will call them tomorrow to obtain locations where their SWs are retailed.

With regard to the amp : where could I see a JBL amp and the Kenwood 8401 drive the GZ SW side by side ? I understand that there are several persons on our board who are ... ummm ... opposed to the Kenwood 8401 - and I would like to hear for myself, before taking a call.

From JBL India's website, for car audio, this is the official outlet :

Mumbai Union Auto Industries C-106 Vaibhav Industrial Estate, Opp Oxford Chamber, Saki-Vihar Road, Andheri (E)-72 9820050919/ 9320029418
Any idea about a similar place in South Mumbai ?

Last question : is there ANY reasonably priced SW, that has an in-built amp which will connect to my set-up ? Considering I am perfectly happy with the output (loudness) of my present set-up (with the exception of bass, of course) - am I correct in assuming that the amp being suggested by you will ONLY drive the SW ? If not, please let me know what should drive what i.e. how the system should be hooked up. If so, if the amp and SW were co-located AND portable, I could disconnect them when I need the extra space in the luggage area.

Sorry to be troubling you guys ... as is evident, I am a green-behind-the-ears-noob.

Cheers,

FourWheelDrift

abhinav.gupta88 · 25th December 2008, 20:32

Hermit audio is run by our member Bass&Trouble. Catch him. he does the installs too.
Contact him. he will be able to solve all the problems as well as do the install.

navin · 25th December 2008, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourWheelDrift

From JBL India's website, for car audio, this is the official outlet :
Mumbai Union Auto Industries
Any idea about a similar place in South Mumbai ?

Last question : is there ANY reasonably priced SW, that has an in-built amp which will connect to my set-up ?

For JBL try Sahil International, somewhere behind Naaz cimena on Lamingotn Road.

You can get a good 12" and a 150W monoblock for less than comparable a sub-amp combo. A good 12"+ amp will run you about 16K.

FourWheelDrift · 28th December 2008, 01:38

Hello Navin,

Thanks for your reponse.

As I'm already 16k in the hole with my recently acquired set-up (on account of paying MSRP, as I wanted B&W), I'm really not inclined to put another 16k into the car ... and that for a little more bass.

Is there no reasonably priced SW+amp 2-in-1 combo (say <=6k installed), that would cut it ? Recall that I'm happy with the SQ of the current system ... just don't have bass that's all.

Cheers,

FourWheelDrift

P.S. Abhinav : am trying to make contact with B&T, but he'll be back on Monday, I think.

wanderernomad · 15th April 2009, 15:10

Gurus here is a poser. I already have a JVC DVD player installed in my marina. The speakers are in stock location with JBL compos upfront with the dash location having the tweeters. Rear stock location between the B and C pillars house 4" speakers. Now I want to add two 6X9's in the hatch. It has space to house the speakers and all that is required is a wooden plank to fit in place of the cardboard the hatch has presently.
I will run these two speakers with a JVC cassette player which is being installed separately in the space under the steering column. It fits in snugly. Now my question is if I add an amplifier as per original plan to run the compos and the 6X9 through the amp while the 4" would be run through the HU (DVD player), can I put in place a switch so that the amp can be fed from both the HU's depending on which HU is up and running?
I had tried to piggyvback the CP to the DVD Hu but it didnot work out. Or am I better off runiing only the 6X9 through the CP HU and keep the amp for running the compos through the DVD HU?
Thanks.

greenhorn · 15th April 2009, 15:17

why a Casette deck in this day and age? why not a walkman ?

you sure you cant connect the casette deck to the DVD player ( latter has no aux in?)
can you specify what you mean by "not work out"

wanderernomad · 16th April 2009, 11:34

Yeah though aux in option was not tried but connecting the two HUs the speakers are going dead. Hence it was suggested to run the cassette deck as a separate entity with a separate set of speakers. Cassette deck simply because I have some fantastic collection on tape and I am too lazy to go and get them burned onto a CD. Plus I got this Cassette HU lying with me. And another thing I want to have all options available.
I really hope that I can get that switch thing installed to alternate the speaker input from one of the two HUs.

DerAlte · 17th April 2009, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderernomad

Yeah though aux in option was not tried but connecting the two HUs the speakers are going dead. Hence it was suggested to run the cassette deck as a separate entity with a separate set of speakers. ...

Errr... How exactly did you connect the two HU's together?

No, you don't need to wire the 2 HUs as 2 different systems with their own speakers.

You have not mentioned any makes / models, so we can only speculate. Assuming that the DVD HU has an AUX-IN, and the Cassette HU has a Pre-out (very few HUs, if any, don't), you only have to do the following:
* Connect the Pre-out of the Cassette HU to the Aux-In of the DVD HU (you may need converter connectors, apart from RCA cables)
* Keep the speakers connected to the DVD HU
* Switch the DVD HU to Aux-in for playback (check the manual)
* Set the Cassette HU volume to play at a moderate volume (about 1/3 of the max possible)
* Play your cassette tape in the Cassette HU (adjust volume only at the DVD HU)

wanderernomad · 20th April 2009, 14:09

The DVD HU is JVC KD DV6200 and it has an AUX IN. The cassette player HU is also JVC unit from a Chrysler Jeep so not sure about the model though. Incase I can connect the two from where do I get the connectors from? And what do I say what kind of connectors do I want?Any shop/installer in Delhi any one of you can recommend for the job?

greenhorn · 20th April 2009, 14:14

given the details you have suggested, the easiest option would be

Cassette Player -> Line out/Pre out ( if it exists) or Speaker output -> Line level convertor to the aux in of the DVD HU

wanderernomad · 20th April 2009, 14:20

Do we get this line level converter off the shelf in car audio accessories shops? And it will be then just a mere joining of these wires? Sorry but am completely at sea with these setups.

greenhorn · 20th April 2009, 14:30

its a box which takes in the speaker outputs from the HU as input , and gives out Line level output

looks like

see if you have a pre out in the cassette player. chances are that it will

wanderernomad · 20th April 2009, 16:51

Hmm how much does it cost? Ill go and check the thing out this weekend at Karol Bagh. I should just go and ask for a line level connector right? Ill also take this picture as a ready reference.
@greenhorn: Thanks mate. Would appreciate any other info that you can give me.

21st December 2008, 18:59	#32
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,090 Thanked: 341 Times View My Garage	Rightly said Get a good VFM sub like Ground Zero ( 5-6k)and a 4 channel amp like JBL ( 10k approx) and if on a budget, get a GZ ( 5-6k) and a Kenwood 8401 ( 5k approx)
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25th December 2008, 20:18	#33
FourWheelDrift BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai/PNW Posts: 635 Thanked: 571 Times	Thanks for your responses, Navin and Abhinav. Navin (and any other Guru in Mumbai), could you please recommend a retail outlet in South Mumbai, where I might obtain the equipment you speak of ? Ground Zero's distributor in India seems to be : India Name: Adress: Contact: Hermit Audio Pvt. Ltd. #8-12, 9/D, Parel Cotton Press Compound, Elphinstone Bridge Road, Parel (E) Mumbai – 400019 INDIA Phone: +91-22-2470-4048 Fax: +91-22-3021-9099 info@hermitaudio.com Will call them tomorrow to obtain locations where their SWs are retailed. With regard to the amp : where could I see a JBL amp and the Kenwood 8401 drive the GZ SW side by side ? I understand that there are several persons on our board who are ... ummm ... opposed to the Kenwood 8401 - and I would like to hear for myself, before taking a call. From JBL India's website, for car audio, this is the official outlet : Mumbai Union Auto Industries C-106 Vaibhav Industrial Estate, Opp Oxford Chamber, Saki-Vihar Road, Andheri (E)-72 9820050919/ 9320029418 Any idea about a similar place in South Mumbai ? Last question : is there ANY reasonably priced SW, that has an in-built amp which will connect to my set-up ? Considering I am perfectly happy with the output (loudness) of my present set-up (with the exception of bass, of course) - am I correct in assuming that the amp being suggested by you will ONLY drive the SW ? If not, please let me know what should drive what i.e. how the system should be hooked up. If so, if the amp and SW were co-located AND portable, I could disconnect them when I need the extra space in the luggage area. Sorry to be troubling you guys ... as is evident, I am a green-behind-the-ears-noob. Cheers, FourWheelDrift
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25th December 2008, 20:32	#34
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,090 Thanked: 341 Times View My Garage	Hermit audio is run by our member Bass&Trouble. Catch him. he does the installs too. Contact him. he will be able to solve all the problems as well as do the install.
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28th December 2008, 01:38	#36
FourWheelDrift BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai/PNW Posts: 635 Thanked: 571 Times	Hello Navin, Thanks for your reponse. As I'm already 16k in the hole with my recently acquired set-up (on account of paying MSRP, as I wanted B&W), I'm really not inclined to put another 16k into the car ... and that for a little more bass. Is there no reasonably priced SW+amp 2-in-1 combo (say <=6k installed), that would cut it ? Recall that I'm happy with the SQ of the current system ... just don't have bass that's all. Cheers, FourWheelDrift P.S. Abhinav : am trying to make contact with B&T, but he'll be back on Monday, I think.
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15th April 2009, 15:10	#37
wanderernomad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,552 Thanked: 1,296 Times View My Garage	Gurus here is a poser. I already have a JVC DVD player installed in my marina. The speakers are in stock location with JBL compos upfront with the dash location having the tweeters. Rear stock location between the B and C pillars house 4" speakers. Now I want to add two 6X9's in the hatch. It has space to house the speakers and all that is required is a wooden plank to fit in place of the cardboard the hatch has presently. I will run these two speakers with a JVC cassette player which is being installed separately in the space under the steering column. It fits in snugly. Now my question is if I add an amplifier as per original plan to run the compos and the 6X9 through the amp while the 4" would be run through the HU (DVD player), can I put in place a switch so that the amp can be fed from both the HU's depending on which HU is up and running? I had tried to piggyvback the CP to the DVD Hu but it didnot work out. Or am I better off runiing only the 6X9 through the CP HU and keep the amp for running the compos through the DVD HU? Thanks.
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15th April 2009, 15:17	#38
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	why a Casette deck in this day and age? why not a walkman ? you sure you cant connect the casette deck to the DVD player ( latter has no aux in?) can you specify what you mean by "not work out"
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16th April 2009, 11:34	#39
wanderernomad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,552 Thanked: 1,296 Times View My Garage	Yeah though aux in option was not tried but connecting the two HUs the speakers are going dead. Hence it was suggested to run the cassette deck as a separate entity with a separate set of speakers. Cassette deck simply because I have some fantastic collection on tape and I am too lazy to go and get them burned onto a CD. Plus I got this Cassette HU lying with me. And another thing I want to have all options available. I really hope that I can get that switch thing installed to alternate the speaker input from one of the two HUs.
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20th April 2009, 14:09	#41
wanderernomad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,552 Thanked: 1,296 Times View My Garage	The DVD HU is JVC KD DV6200 and it has an AUX IN. The cassette player HU is also JVC unit from a Chrysler Jeep so not sure about the model though. Incase I can connect the two from where do I get the connectors from? And what do I say what kind of connectors do I want?Any shop/installer in Delhi any one of you can recommend for the job?
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20th April 2009, 14:14	#42
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	given the details you have suggested, the easiest option would be Cassette Player -> Line out/Pre out ( if it exists) or Speaker output -> Line level convertor to the aux in of the DVD HU
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20th April 2009, 14:20	#43
wanderernomad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,552 Thanked: 1,296 Times View My Garage	Do we get this line level converter off the shelf in car audio accessories shops? And it will be then just a mere joining of these wires? Sorry but am completely at sea with these setups.
	() Thanks

20th April 2009, 14:30	#44
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	its a box which takes in the speaker outputs from the HU as input , and gives out Line level output looks like see if you have a pre out in the cassette player. chances are that it will
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20th April 2009, 16:51	#45
wanderernomad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,552 Thanked: 1,296 Times View My Garage	Hmm how much does it cost? Ill go and check the thing out this weekend at Karol Bagh. I should just go and ask for a line level connector right? Ill also take this picture as a ready reference. @greenhorn: Thanks mate. Would appreciate any other info that you can give me.
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