Santro ICE - Installation & Tuning Queries

nura · 19th August 2007, 20:28

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Originally Posted by shuvc

I think Blau has HUs under 9K (with B&W) which are iPod ready and BT ready.

Do you remember the model number? I know the Maui MP36 costs about 9K but doesn't have Bluetooth. The Bahamas MP46 costs about 11K & Bluetooth is available provided you buy the interface. In both models iPod can be connected provided you buy the interface. In Razor's Alpine iPod can be connected if you just buy a cable.

shuvc · 19th August 2007, 20:37

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Originally Posted by nura

Do you remember the model number? I know the Maui MP36 costs about 9K but doesn't have Bluetooth. The Bahamas MP46 costs about 11K & Bluetooth is available provided you buy the interface. In both models iPod can be connected provided you buy the interface. In Razor's Alpine iPod can be connected if you just buy a cable.

Not too knowledgeable about these things. I think one needs interface cables for both iPod and BT for the Blau I was referring to - 'London'; Rs. 8900/-. You could check their site: Blaupunkt India - The advantage in your car.

Also call 32519026 for prices. This is the brand shop (opp Ice Skating Rink) number. They are closed on Mondays.

navin · 20th August 2007, 10:11

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Originally Posted by shuvc

This is the brand shop (opp Ice Skating Rink) number. They are closed on Mondays.

OT: there is an Ice Skating Rink in Calcutta?

nura · 20th August 2007, 21:21

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Originally Posted by navin

OT: there is an Ice Skating Rink in Calcutta?

OT - This was a real ice skating rink once upon a time but the ice skating stopped in the late seventies as Calcutta was experiencing an acute electricity shortage. The hall has now been converted to a fair centre but the old name continues.
Kolkata has a new ice skating rink now. It is called Icicles & is in Clowntown. Join us with your family for our next TBHP meet & we'll show you around.

nura · 22nd August 2007, 21:56

Can I request the Gurus to explain the difference in control available with the following?

HU with 2 preouts, no subout e.g my current Sony MP50
HU with 2 preouts & fixed subout e.g. Blau Maui MP36
HU with 2 preouts & variable subout e.g. Blau Bahamas MP46

I am particularly looking at 2 situations -

Components in front, sub in the rear, all connected to an amp, no rearfill speakers
Components in front, sub in the rear, all connected to an amp, rear fill speakers connected direcly to HU

Thanks in advance.

jkdas · 22nd August 2007, 22:02

HU with 2 preouts, no subout . 2 sets of preout I presume..it means you have 2 set of preouts which provide full range capability
HU with 2 preouts & fixed subout . this means 3 sets of preouts, 2 sets of full range and one sub out
HU with 2 preouts & variable subout , similar to last but I think the rear can be switched to sub out or full range as needed

full range means it plays 20Hz-20KHz
Sub preout: usually from 50Hz to 200Hz or so, this is where the sub works.

Compos play well from 80Hz up and feed sub with 80Hz or 50Hz and below.

best to go for 3 preout ones ,ie, 2 full range and one sub preout

navin · 23rd August 2007, 11:47

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Sub preout: usually from 50Hz to 200Hz or so, this is where the sub works.

no it is 20-200hz or so. In fact it is really 0-200hz or so Idont think any HU today has a HPF as low as 20hz (such HPFs used to exist in home audio in the 70s and were called Rumble filters but that is a long OT story).

besides many HUs allow you to configure your rear pre outs as All pass or Low pass so you can connect a sub or fullrange. Such HU have 1 or 2 pair of pre outs (rear pre outs are configurable).

DerAlte · 23rd August 2007, 14:20

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Originally Posted by navin

(such HPFs used to exist in home audio in the 70s and were called Rumble filters but that is a long OT story)

Not OT at all, Navin. It would be knowledge for others.

Bass&Trouble · 23rd August 2007, 14:29

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Originally Posted by navin

Idont think any HU today has a HPF as low as 20hz (such HPFs used to exist in home audio in the 70s and were called Rumble filters but that is a long OT story).

Such HPFs exist in car audio in the form of subsonic filters.

navin · 23rd August 2007, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Such HPFs exist in car audio in the form of subsonic filters.

today? in an HU?

gunbir · 23rd August 2007, 15:01

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Originally Posted by navin

today? in an HU?

You can do it on any Alpine HU + H701 processor, and you can also do it on the Clarion HX-D2

Bass&Trouble · 23rd August 2007, 15:34

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Originally Posted by navin

today? in an HU?

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Originally Posted by gunbir

You can do it on any Alpine HU + H701 processor, and you can also do it on the Clarion HX-D2

... and in a lot of subwoofer amps.

nura · 23rd August 2007, 23:33

I have never had an amp in my car so please forgive me if some the following questions are really stupid.
My HU has 2 preouts, no subout & the rear preout cannot be configured to low pass. I am putting in an amp which will drive components in front & a sub in the rear.
After the amp gains have been set, will I be able to adjust the volume of the front components/ sub individually from the HU? Do I need to use the fader control for this?

Autophile · 24th August 2007, 08:50

Yes you can use fader to control the subwoofer level.

shuvc · 24th August 2007, 09:58

Slightly OT :
How does the fader work in a HU which has only one pre-out ?
OR
If a fader works in a HU , does it indicate that it has 2 pre-outs ?

22nd August 2007, 21:56	#50
nura BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 603 Thanked: 18 Times	Can I request the Gurus to explain the difference in control available with the following? HU with 2 preouts, no subout e.g my current Sony MP50 HU with 2 preouts & fixed subout e.g. Blau Maui MP36 HU with 2 preouts & variable subout e.g. Blau Bahamas MP46 I am particularly looking at 2 situations - Components in front, sub in the rear, all connected to an amp, no rearfill speakers Components in front, sub in the rear, all connected to an amp, rear fill speakers connected direcly to HU Thanks in advance.
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22nd August 2007, 22:02	#51
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,493 Times View My Garage	HU with 2 preouts, no subout . 2 sets of preout I presume..it means you have 2 set of preouts which provide full range capability HU with 2 preouts & fixed subout . this means 3 sets of preouts, 2 sets of full range and one sub out HU with 2 preouts & variable subout , similar to last but I think the rear can be switched to sub out or full range as needed full range means it plays 20Hz-20KHz Sub preout: usually from 50Hz to 200Hz or so, this is where the sub works. Compos play well from 80Hz up and feed sub with 80Hz or 50Hz and below. best to go for 3 preout ones ,ie, 2 full range and one sub preout Last edited by jkdas : 22nd August 2007 at 22:03.
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23rd August 2007, 23:33	#58
nura BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 603 Thanked: 18 Times	I have never had an amp in my car so please forgive me if some the following questions are really stupid. My HU has 2 preouts, no subout & the rear preout cannot be configured to low pass. I am putting in an amp which will drive components in front & a sub in the rear. After the amp gains have been set, will I be able to adjust the volume of the front components/ sub individually from the HU? Do I need to use the fader control for this?
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24th August 2007, 08:50	#59
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Yes you can use fader to control the subwoofer level.
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24th August 2007, 09:58	#60
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 354 Times View My Garage	Slightly OT : How does the fader work in a HU which has only one pre-out ? OR If a fader works in a HU , does it indicate that it has 2 pre-outs ?
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