[Bass&Trouble]

Originally Posted by greenhorn

I never said the 2.5x improvement was in input power. Isnt input power kept identical when comparing sensitivities?

I never said you said that. I was just indicating that doubling the power, i.e. 3dB gain, into a speaker does not result in double the perceived loudness. Thats why I included that line. Since you arrived at the conclusion that "since he can perceive it 2.5 times louder, it must be 4dB more". That is not true.

Originally Posted by greenhorn

abhibh had not specified what exactly in the mid bass had increased 2.5x. I assumed it was the sensitivity of the mid bass driver.

How can someone mean, "I think this driver's efficiency in midbass is 4 dB more than the other one", when someone actually says "the midbass is almost 2.5 times of the other one"? Perceived difference, as heard.

Originally Posted by greenhorn

attenuation. who knows , they might have attenuated the mid by some extent

If by 'mid' you mean midbass - nope.

[iceman91]

Whoa guys
The thread says SIMPLE ICE setup!!!

I thought I knew very little about ice but after reading your threads and posts I can say with full confidence that I know nothing!

[greenhorn]

Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

I never said you said that. I was just indicating that doubling the power, i.e. 3dB gain, into a speaker does not result in double the perceived loudness.

quite true. From what I've read, 10dB translates to a percieved 2X improvement

Since you arrived at the conclusion that "since he can perceive it 2.5 times louder, it must be 4dB more". That is not true.

the question here is whether abhibh actually percieved the difference or got it off some spec sheet. Especially since he confidently said that it was 2.5x , i assumed it was the latter. I may be able to say that something is twice as loud, but my ears arent as good to determine if it is 2.5x loud, not 2x and hence the assumption

Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

How can someone mean, "I think this driver's efficiency in midbass is 4 dB more than the other one", when someone actually says "the midbass is almost 2.5 times of the other one"? Perceived difference, as heard.

I guess that's left for abhibh to clarify

[low_bass_makker]

Originally Posted by abhibh

Have not heard the Hi-Energy much so i cannot comment on them but i will be owning a pair soon and will post a review.

Ya I have heard Hi-Energy are going our very cheap approx 6.5k waiting for the review.

[Bass&Trouble]

Originally Posted by greenhorn

I guess that's left for abhibh to clarify

Or for us to understand. If we choose to.

Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

Ya I have heard Hi-Energy are going our very cheap approx 6.5k waiting for the review.

Are you serious? People have actually bought that for 15k odd, right? Well worth this new price.

[low_bass_makker]

Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Are you serious? People have actually bought that for 15k odd, right? Well worth this new price.

Yes Ajay Bhai I am serious. I have meet that guy and he has told me that he got it for that much only.

[silver baleno]

Hi Navin

where can I get a demo of the infinity's?

Cheers!

[silver baleno]

Hi all

Met up with B&T on saturday, demoed the Illusion 6.5" co-axials and the Illusion Electra components in my car. The co-axials were an improvement on my existing speakers, however the components were what i liked the best. The issue now is that the output of the HU is not enough to drive the compo's, and so will need to add an amplifier to realise their full potential.

This paragraph is a bit off topic, but I need to mention my experience with Hermit Audio. For B&T it really is all about the music! A lot of time and effort was spent in fitting 2 sets of speakers in the stock locations in my car for the demo. While the work was being done I was given free access to his demo room (He also deals in high end Home audio), and listened to music to my hearts content. B&T then spent time listening to the speakers in my car, and gave a frank and unbiased opinion of what would work and what wouldnt. He even refused to accept any payment for the work done. Very helpful, and a real gentleman. Thanks for taking the trouble B&T.

In the meantime, I will also check out Bull Audio components, and start looking for a suitable (Low cost & good SQ) amp.

Cheers!

PS: Had a peep at WIP on a Pune registered swift, a killer install with 3-way's fitted in the doors. Would be great to get a demo when it is finished!

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by silver baleno

Hi all

Met up with B&T on saturday, demoed the Illusion 6.5" co-axials and the Illusion Electra components in my car. The co-axials were an improvement on my existing speakers, however the components were what i liked the best. The issue now is that the output of the HU is not enough to drive the compo's, and so will need to add an amplifier to realise their full potential.

This paragraph is a bit off topic, but I need to mention my experience with Hermit Audio. For B&T it really is all about the music! A lot of time and effort was spent in fitting 2 sets of speakers in the stock locations in my car for the demo. While the work was being done I was given free access to his demo room (He also deals in high end Home audio), and listened to music to my hearts content. B&T then spent time listening to the speakers in my car, and gave a frank and unbiased opinion of what would work and what wouldnt. He even refused to accept any payment for the work done. Very helpful, and a real gentleman. Thanks for taking the trouble B&T.
Cheers!

Did you go to Boom? Zohir has an awesome HT demo room!

Originally Posted by silver baleno

In the meantime, I will also check out Bull Audio components, and start looking for a suitable (Low cost & good SQ) amp.

Where are the Bull Audio equipment available in Mumbai? My friend needs to audition them as well.

Originally Posted by silver baleno

PS: Had a peep at WIP on a Pune registered swift, a killer install with 3-way's fitted in the doors. Would be great to get a demo when it is finished!

Was that Amey's Swift?

[shrivz]

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

Did you go to Boom? Zohir has an awesome HT demo room!

The audio salon which he visited is even better.

Just for an idea of what it is: Gamut International

[silver baleno]

Hi Nishant

not sure who's swift that was.

Bull Audio equipment is available at FM drive in Santacruz, Im going there for a demo tomorrow, your friend and you are welcome to come along.

Shrivz has mentioned the name of the brand the hermit deals in. The demo room at Hermit Audio is about 3 times the size of the demo room at BOOM, and is acoustically treated. They cant be compared.

[moralfibre]

Originally Posted by silver baleno

Hi Nishant

not sure who's swift that was.

That Swift belonged to team-bhp member Amey. You can see a thread on the Swift here - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...-swift-16.html

[navin]

Originally Posted by silver baleno

Hi Navin

where can I get a demo of the infinity's?

Cheers!

Milan Subway I guess. You must cofnuse me with the Yeti he is the Infinity rep on TBHP.