[noidaboy]

Originally Posted by kpzen

Wow ! Another upgrade !

Another upgrade done as well,he has gone nuts,Update the thread boy!

[frankmehta]

no i doubt the seats can be folded now, what with the unequal length of both the amps and the distribution block in between.
but honestly, i am quite impressed with this install. very neat, and really good set of components used. the 2 amps look beautiful and the 2 subs too must be really KICKING in the boot. its a loss of the boot, but a great setup. just had a question to everyone who has more than one woofer in the boot.
does having 2 woofers and using them to their potential, even in a sealed box warrant an SQ setup? however good the amps driving them, or the drivers themselves, but can it ever warrant sq?? i only think of SPL when more than one woofer comes to mind. the 2nd arguement will be, that if they are both tuned for SQ(ie using them NOT to their max potential, with half the amount of power supplied from an amp) then what is the need for 2 subs????? wont their sine waves, or interference with each others frequencies cause a slightly boomy sound??
wont having JUST one sub in a tight sealed box provide enough bass? im not talking about ENOUGH in LBM talk, just enough to accompany, and not overpower the other components?
very confusing question, and very valid too, i think!

[sam_786]

More Pics. Now of the DAMPING done and the Wiring used in my setup.

Wiring is all Connection audison.

Damping in the Doors done using Noise Kill
In the boot area using Dynamat Extreme

[noidaboy]

Its a game of tuning.Sealed box's have tighter kick,and better blending power.Ported are more preferred for boomy setups or loud spl setups (genrally)

Some competetion winning SQ setups have 3 subs and more than 500-600w rms.Having a power full setup does not mean it should be glass shattering or hell loud.It depends on the taste and how the user wants it to be.

[frankmehta]

but my question to all is:
can SQ be achieved better in a 2 sub or 3 sub setup?
i dont think the human ears can take 2 or 3 rumbling subs in a boot and interpret them as SQ! it HAS to border on SPL! get my question?

[noidaboy]

Originally Posted by frankmehta

but my question to all is:
can SQ be achieved better in a 2 sub or 3 sub setup?
i dont think the human ears can take 2 or 3 rumbling subs in a boot and interpret them as SQ! it HAS to border on SPL! get my question?

You didnt get my ans.Yes it can because you have more surface area,if you have more subs.Having 2-3 subs does not mean they will be loud.They can be nice and gentle as well,depends on the way they are tuned.2-3 subs dont always need to rumble they can be controlled as well for SQ,they can play nice and tight rather than bass and loud

The setup in the pic IS a SQ setup.

[m4ugr8]

Yup, I have heard this and its PURE SQ.

[frankmehta]

dayyyyumn! who's car IS this??? lol.. i get your answer, but then does one need more than one well tuned sub for good sq? how much better can it get?

[noidaboy]

Another thing,Each side of the chameleon in the front stage is getting over 300w in sam's car.So for one sub to match that front stage, it would have to work very hard...hence you need two so they work less for same output, and at lesser distortion as more air is moved with lesser excursion so better SQ as the woofer's will not be on its peak to perform.Lesser stress on the Sub's and compo's if they have good balance of power.

[abhibh]

Congrats on the setup Sam.
I am sure it sounds great and just the way u want it. What is the retails of those components ?

In the below pic IMHO it would be better if all those wires are not visible.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...p-img_1446.jpg

Originally Posted by noidaboy

Another upgrade done as well,he has gone nuts,Update the thread boy!

Another one

This guy upgrades faster than i can even process what i should upgrade.

EDITED:
Whats the nominal power handling of the CXS compos ? And rated power of both the amps ?

[panky12345]

Originally Posted by sam_786

Box had damping done inside it as well

How does this help?? Some people asked earlier as well.

[sam_786]

Originally Posted by abhibh

Congrats on the setup Sam.
I am sure it sounds great and just the way u want it. What is the retails of those components ?

In the below pic IMHO it would be better if all those wires are not visible.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...p-img_1446.jpg




Another one

This guy upgrades faster than i can even process what i should upgrade.

EDITED:
Whats the nominal power handling of the CXS compos ? And rated power of both the amps ?

The Pic you have attached is not the final install. The wires were hidden afterwards.

[Gill]

I have a small doubt regarding the port poistion or location,Does it effects the performance of the sub,if no then it's fine,
if yes, then in the above posted pics,isn't the flow interrupted as the boot wall is too close to the ported box.

[sam_786]

Originally Posted by panky12345

How does this help?? Some people asked earlier as well.

Technical question, I think it helps in some back wave reduction. Gunbir/Jasdeep can answer this better, As far as I know the end result was Tighter and clear bass. And i think it helps in the strength of the box as well.

A box which houses two subs capable of doing 151+ dB needs to be strong

Originally Posted by noidaboy

Another thing,Each side of the chameleon in the front stage is getting over 300w in sam's car.So for one sub to match that front stage, it would have to work very hard...hence you need two so they work less for same output, and at lesser distortion as more air is moved with lesser excursion so better SQ as the woofer's will not be on its peak to perform.Lesser stress on the Sub's and compo's if they have good balance of power.

For a Setup with 2 or 3 subs, You first of all need a VERY VERY good front stage. When I had Bull/Rainbow Components, The SUB use to over power the Vocals every time and the result use to be that to listen to some music i had to take the Sub level to -6. But after the ID Compos, The front stage was playing very nice and LOUD. Then my two subs performed the blending function perfectly.

Even in the CRV, It has a very good front stage using Lotus Compos, so it needs the bass from the 3 subs to complete the spectrum of sound. If it has 1 sub, obviously the Vocals will over power the Bass.

[noidaboy]

Originally Posted by abhibh

Congrats on the setup Sam.




Another one

This guy upgrades faster than i can even process what i should upgrade.

Haha you said it,He is one of those who wants what he wants and wants it NOW!

EDITED:
Whats the nominal power handling of the CXS compos ? And rated power of both the amps ?

The company rating for CXS is 125w

The 700.1 is rated as
175w X 2 @4ohm's
325w X 2 @2ohm's
650w X 1 @1ohm

The 1200.1 is rated as
400w X 1@4ohm's
800w X 1@2ohm's
1200w X 1@1ohm