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Old 2nd August 2011, 18:35   #10996
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What audio set-up should I go for in a Honda City EMT. My requirements are
1. Single CD player
2. FM reciever
3. Bluetooth for my Mobile phone
4. 2 or 4 speaker
5. i wont be listening to loud music. i.e. the volume would be kept in the mid range.

budget : 15 to 20 k
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What audio set-up should I go for in a Honda City EMT. My requirements are
1. Single CD player
2. FM reciever
3. Bluetooth for my Mobile phone
4. 2 or 4 speaker
5. i wont be listening to loud music. i.e. the volume would be kept in the mid range.

budget : 15 to 20 k
Just get a good HU and 4 6" speakers. For 20K you should be able to get components up front and stick the tweeters in the OVRM pods. The rear speakers can be Co-ax.

HU: Pioneer, JVC, Kenwood about 6K
Speakers: JBL, Alpine, Infinity etc.. about 10-15K for 2 pairs.

It is more important to find a good installer in your neighbourhood and check out a few of his installs.
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See answers in bold above.
1. Put a pair of components in front (tweeters come as a part of the set) - Infinity, Bull, Auditor, JBL, Blaupunkt etc.
2. A pair of round coaxials for the rear - same brands as above
3. Amp - JBL, Kenwood, Blaupunkt, etc.
4. Use a good Indian power cable like Finolex, L&T, Havells etc. for bringing power to the amp. Buy some good quality RCA cables to connect the amp to the HU
5. Sub: the best for you would be a 12" sub in a sealed box. You could make a fiber glass enclosure on the side opposite to the fuel tank inlet - this will keep the boot floor free. Tube should be your last resort, and remember tube does take up significant boot floor area.
DerAlte,
I am planning to buy a Linea Active. It does not come with any sound system. I am a novice in ICE matter but know my around a little bit with home based hifi systems.
I live in south bangalore.Can you suggest good reputable shops where I can check out ICE setups ? Does it void any warranty's ?
Can you suggest something for me ? I would not like to cross 30k. Music I frequently listen to
Indian pop/ghazals/coke studio type stuff
western:
jazz,classic/contemp rock,indie, soul/r&b , spanish music, etc
I have two young kids so kids stuff will get played on it I guess. Let me know if you need to know any other parameters for recommendation ?
Thanks in advance and hope to meet you at some Bangalore Meetup !
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does the amplifier with high level speaker input has auto summing capabilities? i mean if i feed in the front and rear speaker inputs from my oem head unit to the amplifier will it negate the equalization from the head unit and convert it into flat usable range for front and rear speakers connected to the amplifier?
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DerAlte,
I am planning to buy a Linea Active. It does not come with any sound system. I am a novice in ICE matter but know my around a little bit with home based hifi systems.
I live in south bangalore.Can you suggest good reputable shops where I can check out ICE setups ? Does it void any warranty's ?
Can you suggest something for me ? I would not like to cross 30k. ...
You can try one of these - TMC Electronics on the Jayanagar East End Road (Venu), EVO in Cambridge Layout (Satya - @blueraven216), Auto Fusion in Koramangala (near Kora Club; Thouqeer - @thouqeer), (not sure of the name of the shop) Anwar's joint on the Jyoti Nivas College road in Koramangala, just before the biriyani shop on the 1st floor ...

30K would be a bit tight to include a subwoofer, but otherwise it will get you a decent amplified system.
* Kenwood (look up the India website for features), Pio or JVC HU
* Good pair of components in front - audition before deciding. Infinity, Morel, Auditor, Hertz, JBL, Polk ...
* Round co-axes on the rear doors from the same brand. If no sub, buy a pair of 6x9 coaxes instead, and put them on the parcel shelf behind the rear seat
* A good 4-channel amp - JBL, Infinity, Auditor, Kenwood ...
* RCA and power cables + speaker wiring.

Since you are adding new wiring and not cutting / splicing, it will not void warranty (though the dealer may try to dissuade you so that you buy from them).

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does the amplifier with high level speaker input has auto summing capabilities? ...
No it won't. The HU equalizer acts on the final signal (after the 'mixer' / selector, which selects source). This includes any bias added in OE units to tailor it to OE speakers. This 'doctored' signal goes out to both the Pre-Out RCAs (if available) and the output amplifier which feeds the speakers. If you connect the speaker output to the amp, the amp reproduces the 'doctored' signal through speakers connected to it.

To get a 'flat' signal from the speaker output (or Pre-out signal), one has to pass it through an external equalizer like the ones available from RF, JBL etc. before sending the equalizer's output to the amp.
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JVC KW-AVX840 or Pioneer AVH-P3300BT which is better for music? and aslo in terms of GUI/interface?

I will be running polk components and polk coaxials with JBLA604 4 channel amp I will also add a sub-woofer and mono amp later. Are the polks compatible with the above HU?

I am getting mixed results online, from the technical manuals both offer similar specs for music.

Any help will be highly appreciated?
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Hi! Ok, before someone kills me for asking a question that might have already been answered, I really need some help because I just can't find the answer.

I'm getting a new Honda City S MT which comes with an in built music system. I'm moving on from a Swift in which I have :

HU : Pioneer P1Y
Amps : JBL 2 Channel + Sony 4 Channel
Speakers : Rear Pioneer Coaxials, JBL Components, Pioneer Speakers on the Rear Doors.
Sub : Pioneer 800 Watt

Now, I'm used to my system and would love to move it on to the City. I'd like to know
1). If there is any way I can rig the steering controls to the system
2). Do I need to change anything in the dash to fit the P1Y (Single Din)
3). Could anyone suggest some other system which would fit the Dash without any modifications or additional expenses and to which I can rig the steering controls. I do have a budget that caps at Rs. 12k for the new HU.

Again, my apologies if all this has already been asked. I promise, I have tried searching.
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I need to buy a new headunit in the range of 5-7K for my Zen.
It needs to have-

1. Natural treble, no shrillness
2. Punchy Mid-bass
3. Adequate Lows, not too much or too mellow, just how it should be.
4. Front USB, MP3
5. I will be using without an amplifier for now, but, it should still have a good number of Pre-outs ateast for a Front+Sub amplification system if ever I go for one in near future. Plus, for present, the internal amplifier should be adequate.
6. Nice tuning options to fine tune the audio output

Help me.
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HU : Pioneer P1Y
Now, I'm used to my system and would love to move it on to the City. I'd like to know
1). If there is any way I can rig the steering controls to the system
2). Do I need to change anything in the dash to fit the P1Y (Single Din)
3). Could anyone suggest some other system which would fit the Dash without any modifications or additional expenses and to which I can rig the steering controls. I do have a budget that caps at Rs. 12k for the new HU.
Honda has a dash kit for many HUs. I have seen Alpine HUs (9987) installed in ANHCs but it would best to ask your honda dealer if they have a dash kit for the P1Y.

The Dash kit you need should include a 1 DIN HU adapter and steering wheel controls.

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I need to buy a new headunit in the range of 5-7K for my Zen.
For 7K I'd look at JVC.

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JVC KW-AVX840 or Pioneer AVH-P3300BT
I will be running polk components and polk coaxials with JBLA604 4 channel amp I will also add a sub-woofer and mono amp later. Are the polks compatible with the above HU?
Since you have an amp both HUs will driven your Polks. As to which is better that is subjective and something only you can decide for yourself.
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@navin, any specific models that would fit in my budget? Any idea?

A few people suggested me to go for Kenwood 6046. I looked it up on the Kenwood website, specs seem good for the price.
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Honda has a dash kit for many HUs. I have seen Alpine HUs (9987) installed in ANHCs but it would best to ask your honda dealer if they have a dash kit for the P1Y.

The Dash kit you need should include a 1 DIN HU adapter and steering wheel controls.
Just spoke with the dealer, he says I don't need any dash kit or anything. I can fit a 2-Din system without any problems. I intend on changing my system to the JVC KW-XR816. Now I'm a bit more confused because from what I read over here, I require a kit. But the guy at the showroom said I do not.

Help!
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Now I'm a bit more confused because from what I read over here, I require a kit. But the guy at the showroom said I do not.
Q: How will the steering wheel controls recognise the HU without a kit.

Gunbir and B&T have installed many an ANHC mabe they can confirm.
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Q: How will the steering wheel controls recognise the HU without a kit.

Gunbir and B&T have installed many an ANHC mabe they can confirm.
Good point. PM'ing now! Hopefully they'd be able to shed some light.
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I was wondering whether i can open the head unit on my linea and take out a low level rca connection directly from the DSP by bypassing the power amplifier IC?
Can the experts tell me what components i will require to build this kind of circuit. do i require capacitors resistors etc?

Navin sir, expecting your expert opinion on this.
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^^I'm not navin but I'll give it a stab anyway

It's a pretty trivial task if you know where to tap the signal from or can figure it out looking at the chip's datasheets, provided you can figure out which chip it is once you crack the shell. All you should need to do is disconnect the amplifier chip inputs and wire it to a set of output jacks.

Such skulduggery may not be needed. The Linea HU does have a low-level output and needs an adapter. The pins are available on the back of the unit.

If you have no electronics experience the adapter may be a better bet.

It's also OK to use a reducer from the high-level output if there is no load connected. At very high impedance load the amplifier distortion is usually fairly low. Amp may become unstable at such low current output though. So-called level matchers may or may not work well. It's the most fool-proof solution.
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