Upgrading ICE on i20 - lot of doubts !!

vigneshnr · 8th October 2009, 16:25

Hi

I've booked a i20 magna in bangalore. I love thumping music with good bass.

I've a opinion that OE ICE wont be as exciting.. so the dealer suggested some add ons

1. JBL 12" Sub woofer - JBL GT5-1204BR - 10k
2. 4 ch amplifier - JBL GT5-S644 - 5k
3. Connector unit - 4k

(The prices are just indicative)

I'm a complete novice in this matter.
I've some doubts

1. Will this configuration complement the OE system?
2. Is this woofer over powered to shadow the speaker output ?
3. I've taken a 4ch amp - (in case in future i need to use up for better speakers) can i route the output to the OE speakers itself instead of adding any more.
4. Is this connector a necessity ? It is quoted as expensive as a amp.

Invinsible · 9th October 2009, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by vigneshnr

Hi

I've booked a i20 magna in bangalore. I love thumping music with good bass.

I've a opinion that OE ICE wont be as exciting.. so the dealer suggested some add ons

1. JBL 12" Sub woofer - JBL GT5-1204BR - 10k
2. 4 ch amplifier - JBL GT5-S644 - 5k
3. Connector unit - 4k

(The prices are just indicative)

I'm a complete novice in this matter.
I've some doubts

1. Will this configuration complement the OE system?
2. Is this woofer over powered to shadow the speaker output ?
3. I've taken a 4ch amp - (in case in future i need to use up for better speakers) can i route the output to the OE speakers itself instead of adding any more.
4. Is this connector a necessity ? It is quoted as expensive as a amp.

First of all let's hear what's your overall budget. Secondly, OE speakers are not rated good enough to handle the power from the amplifier. There are many options that one can figure out. Most common one would be to upgrade the front speakers to 2 way components, add a sub and a 4channel amp for the same. If you need rear fill you could always shift the front speakers to the rear and power them with the HU.

abhinav.gupta88 · 9th October 2009, 04:00

1. No it wont.
2. Yes, it will
3. you can but they might be damaged, they are not designed to play on amps.
4. Yes, if you wish to retain the HU.

What i would advice is if you want to retain the hu, change the speakers 1st ( atleast front), add a sub a 4 channel. ( you'll need the line-in convertor)

However the sound quality wont be too good if some local line convertor is used.
What you'll need is a good convertor or change the HU.

vigneshnr · 9th October 2009, 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invinsible

First of all let's hear what's your overall budget. Secondly, OE speakers are not rated good enough to handle the power from the amplifier. There are many options that one can figure out. Most common one would be to upgrade the front speakers to 2 way components, add a sub and a 4channel amp for the same. If you need rear fill you could always shift the front speakers to the rear and power them with the HU.

- my budget is around 20k.
can u suggest speakers to go for in this case. How good is the amp & woofer suggested?

vigneshnr · 9th October 2009, 07:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

1. No it wont.
2. Yes, it will
3. you can but they might be damaged, they are not designed to play on amps.
4. Yes, if you wish to retain the HU.

What i would advice is if you want to retain the hu, change the speakers 1st ( atleast front), add a sub a 4 channel. ( you'll need the line-in convertor)

However the sound quality wont be too good if some local line convertor is used.
What you'll need is a good convertor or change the HU.

Oh my god.. I would've ended up in disaster. I want to retain the HU. Can u suggest any line-in converter.. (also speakers)

Are the woofer/ amp good ones ?

vigneshnr · 10th October 2009, 21:40

Hi

this evening i got a call from the showroom.. tat my car has arrived..

reached there.. highly excited.. Gleaming Black.

Finally installed this config.. thanks to the Gurus - Abhinav & invinsible

Front 2 components - JBL GTO608C
JBL 12" Sub woofer - JBL GT5-1204BR
4 ch amplifier - JBL GT5-S644

retained the rear door stock speakers.

Sounded awesome for me.. will take delivery on monday

thegame · 19th October 2009, 20:31

Congrats Vignesh! That setup will give you enough thump. Was the sub installed in a sealed box?

navin · 19th October 2009, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by vigneshnr

1. JBL 12" Sub woofer - JBL GT5-1204BR - 10k
2. 4 ch amplifier - JBL GT5-S644 - 5k
3. Connector unit - 4k
4. Is this connector a necessity ? It is quoted as expensive as a amp.

4k is a bit much for a pair of speaker level to line level adapters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vigneshnr

Front 2 components - JBL GTO608C
JBL 12" Sub woofer - JBL GT5-1204BR
4 ch amplifier - JBL GT5-S64

Well done. That was fast.

Sound_Affects · 20th October 2009, 09:44

even 10k for the JBL GT5-1204BR is on the higher side.

rudrah · 20th October 2009, 13:22

Congrats on the car and ICE setup.

How much you got the JBL GT5-S644 Amp for, with B/W or w/o?

vigneshnr · 28th October 2009, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegame

Congrats Vignesh! That setup will give you enough thump. Was the sub installed in a sealed box?

Thanks, yes it comes in a sealed box.

Thump is awesome.. AR Rehman.. Fat Boy Slims.. Black Eyed Peas playin LIVE and traffic woes just disappear.

India JBL

vigneshnr · 28th October 2009, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

4k is a bit much for a pair of speaker level to line level adapters.

Well done. That was fast.

Thanks.. Overall i managed some discounts. But happy for the service levels of the showroom guys.

vigneshnr · 28th October 2009, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudrah

Congrats on the car and ICE setup.

How much you got the JBL GT5-S644 Amp for, with B/W or w/o?

its with b/w as i picked from the dealer. I got a overall bargain on the package.

Amp would be 4.5 k i suppose

sohail99 · 31st October 2009, 21:46

I have booked i20 Asta(o)

and was just looking to replace the stock component speakers(Rear)

Budget - Approx 10K

Which ones would be best as replacement components?

PS - Don't want any Amp or anything for now!
will do a full ICE overhaul later!

DerAlte · 31st October 2009, 23:32

Not sure you have expressed it right:

* Are you sure the i20 comes with components in the rear? If at all, they are usually coax!

* Why would you want to replace rear speakers and not the front? If you will do the driving, and not sit in the back seat, one would expect you to replace the front speakers with better components

* Infinity, JBL, Blaupunkt, Illusion, Bull, ... any of these brands you will be able to get a pair of components AND a pair of coaxes to replace all the stock speakers in the i20

8th October 2009, 16:25	#1
vigneshnr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 198 Thanked: 195 Times View My Garage	Upgrading ICE on i20 - lot of doubts !! Hi I've booked a i20 magna in bangalore. I love thumping music with good bass. I've a opinion that OE ICE wont be as exciting.. so the dealer suggested some add ons 1. JBL 12" Sub woofer - JBL GT5-1204BR - 10k 2. 4 ch amplifier - JBL GT5-S644 - 5k 3. Connector unit - 4k (The prices are just indicative) I'm a complete novice in this matter. I've some doubts 1. Will this configuration complement the OE system? 2. Is this woofer over powered to shadow the speaker output ? 3. I've taken a 4ch amp - (in case in future i need to use up for better speakers) can i route the output to the OE speakers itself instead of adding any more. 4. Is this connector a necessity ? It is quoted as expensive as a amp.
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9th October 2009, 04:00	#3
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,090 Thanked: 341 Times View My Garage	1. No it wont. 2. Yes, it will 3. you can but they might be damaged, they are not designed to play on amps. 4. Yes, if you wish to retain the HU. What i would advice is if you want to retain the hu, change the speakers 1st ( atleast front), add a sub a 4 channel. ( you'll need the line-in convertor) However the sound quality wont be too good if some local line convertor is used. What you'll need is a good convertor or change the HU.
	() Thanks

10th October 2009, 21:40	#6
vigneshnr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 198 Thanked: 195 Times View My Garage	Hi this evening i got a call from the showroom.. tat my car has arrived.. reached there.. highly excited.. Gleaming Black. Finally installed this config.. thanks to the Gurus - Abhinav & invinsible Front 2 components - JBL GTO608C JBL 12" Sub woofer - JBL GT5-1204BR 4 ch amplifier - JBL GT5-S644 retained the rear door stock speakers. Sounded awesome for me.. will take delivery on monday
	() Thanks

19th October 2009, 20:31	#7
thegame BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 76 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Congrats Vignesh! That setup will give you enough thump. Was the sub installed in a sealed box?
	() Thanks

20th October 2009, 09:44	#9
Sound_Affects BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 93 Thanked: 10 Times	even 10k for the JBL GT5-1204BR is on the higher side.
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20th October 2009, 13:22	#10
rudrah BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 645 Thanked: 48 Times View My Garage	Congrats on the car and ICE setup. How much you got the JBL GT5-S644 Amp for, with B/W or w/o?
	() Thanks

31st October 2009, 21:46	#14
sohail99 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,272 Thanked: 235 Times	I have booked i20 Asta(o) and was just looking to replace the stock component speakers(Rear) Budget - Approx 10K Which ones would be best as replacement components? PS - Don't want any Amp or anything for now! will do a full ICE overhaul later!
	() Thanks

31st October 2009, 23:32	#15
DerAlte Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,035 Thanked: 2,920 Times	Not sure you have expressed it right: * Are you sure the i20 comes with components in the rear? If at all, they are usually coax! * Why would you want to replace rear speakers and not the front? If you will do the driving, and not sit in the back seat, one would expect you to replace the front speakers with better components * Infinity, JBL, Blaupunkt, Illusion, Bull, ... any of these brands you will be able to get a pair of components AND a pair of coaxes to replace all the stock speakers in the i20
	() Thanks