Scoop!! Tata Ace Van..Killer Of Omni.

amit_mechengg · 1st December 2009, 11:40

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Originally Posted by ACM

Have sat in a magic (Shirdi - hotels use it to transport between the hotel and temple.) Am sure it is unsafe. the roll cage like stuff on the top is just a frame for the soft top, feel sure that it will crumple if the Magic were to ever tropple over. I guess the top speed is restricted for the same reason.

that kind of bars wont be there in this minivan. even the roll cage which you are referring is according to the government norms. our maruti cars in that sense are the most unsafe. forget about rolling even if 2-3 coconuts fall on the roof it almost collapses

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ACM · 2nd December 2009, 11:50

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Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

that kind of bars wont be there in this minivan. even the roll cage which you are referring is according to the government norms. our maruti cars in that sense are the most unsafe. forget about rolling even if 2-3 coconuts fall on the roof it almost collapses

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Agree hence believe the new van designed to be used as a City commute and usage Van (rather than as a RTV - Rural Transport Vehicle) will be safe and will take the fight to Maurit Omni easily.

SaneOp · 2nd December 2009, 12:24

Great Scoop. This can be winner as many already said. Omni is aging and certainly needs competitor. I think it will be big hit in rural, semi-urban and will be able to replace those crude three wheelers which ferry 7-8 people. Cheers to Tata.
Team-bhpians should keep their eyes open with Auto expo so close there could be many interesting sightings.

tushky · 5th December 2009, 16:56

today i spotted this again.

E C U · 5th December 2009, 18:27

Nice catch again, The vehicle looks to be bigger than the OMNI, from the rear lights it tends to be something consumer oriented rather than a commercial vehicle.
Seems TML is trying to make a design identity across models through the tower type light consoles like mercedes viano.

salilpawar1 · 5th December 2009, 18:58

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Originally Posted by tushky

today i spotted this again.

Those taillights really look upmarket. Something like a mini Mercedes Viano

akhilesh51 · 5th December 2009, 23:19

The tail-lights look fab and carry recent TATA design cues...I hope the front is equally impressive...

AyAn! · 5th December 2009, 23:20

Now this looks really promising.
Bigger tires fill the wheel wells well!

Amartya · 6th December 2009, 09:42

Though the market exists for such a vehicle, I am really not looking forward to this Tata launch. These body-styles are kind of suicidal on Indian roads. The dynamics are often tricky too.

I do wish Tata success in most of their ventures but this just doesn't look like the right way to go. I understand they are reusing the Ace's tooling and production line (perhaps) for this product and that reduces the production and engineering costs by a massive margin, I so wish they had give the "car" a hint of a bonnet. With a cross brace and an impact absorbent structure would have made it safer.

Other than thicker gauge metal, this might not be much safer than an Omni.

amit_mechengg · 7th December 2009, 22:22

these kind of vehicles are the most successful ones in INDIA infact. Taxi, tour, big families, small business (people + skipping octroi and transporting material), village transport etc etc, the list will go long and long.

LonelyPlanet · 8th December 2009, 10:20

Friends in Tata Motors tell me that this is competing in with the Innova/ Xylo and not with the Omni

1100D · 8th December 2009, 10:58

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Originally Posted by LonelyPlanet

Friends in Tata Motors tell me that this is competing in with the Innova/ Xylo and not with the Omni

That's Indicruz, not this.

MuraliR · 8th December 2009, 11:03

The roof seems too high - what happens to the centre of gravity. Hope it does not topple - like was common in the early days of Sumo.

harishnair · 8th December 2009, 12:16

The pricing will most likely be more than Omni but less than the Sumo Victa.

Also do you guys remember the van which M&M used to make in the 90s, I am not sure about its name.

v1kram · 8th December 2009, 12:22

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Originally Posted by harishnair

The pricing will most likely be more than Omni but less than the Sumo Victa.

Also do you guys remember the van which M&M used to make in the 90s, I am not sure about its name.

I think you are referring Mahindra Voyager, built under a JV between MM & Mitsubishi.

2nd December 2009, 12:24	#78
SaneOp BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 67 Thanked: 21 Times	Great Scoop. This can be winner as many already said. Omni is aging and certainly needs competitor. I think it will be big hit in rural, semi-urban and will be able to replace those crude three wheelers which ferry 7-8 people. Cheers to Tata. Team-bhpians should keep their eyes open with Auto expo so close there could be many interesting sightings.
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5th December 2009, 16:56	#79
tushky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 1,278 Thanked: 2,849 Times View My Garage	today i spotted this again. Attached Thumbnails
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5th December 2009, 18:27	#80
E C U BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: KL Posts: 36 Thanked: 18 Times	Nice catch again, The vehicle looks to be bigger than the OMNI, from the rear lights it tends to be something consumer oriented rather than a commercial vehicle. Seems TML is trying to make a design identity across models through the tower type light consoles like mercedes viano.
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5th December 2009, 23:19	#82
akhilesh51 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jaipur, RAJ Posts: 631 Thanked: 341 Times	The tail-lights look fab and carry recent TATA design cues...I hope the front is equally impressive...
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5th December 2009, 23:20	#83
AyAn! Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Durgapur/Calcutta/Pune Posts: 2,169 Thanked: 874 Times	Now this looks really promising. Bigger tires fill the wheel wells well!
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6th December 2009, 09:42	#84
Amartya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Evanston Posts: 1,748 Thanked: 738 Times	Though the market exists for such a vehicle, I am really not looking forward to this Tata launch. These body-styles are kind of suicidal on Indian roads. The dynamics are often tricky too. I do wish Tata success in most of their ventures but this just doesn't look like the right way to go. I understand they are reusing the Ace's tooling and production line (perhaps) for this product and that reduces the production and engineering costs by a massive margin, I so wish they had give the "car" a hint of a bonnet. With a cross brace and an impact absorbent structure would have made it safer. Other than thicker gauge metal, this might not be much safer than an Omni.
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7th December 2009, 22:22	#85
amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,488 Thanked: 2,263 Times View My Garage	these kind of vehicles are the most successful ones in INDIA infact. Taxi, tour, big families, small business (people + skipping octroi and transporting material), village transport etc etc, the list will go long and long.
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8th December 2009, 10:20	#86
LonelyPlanet BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jam-luru Posts: 324 Thanked: 159 Times	Friends in Tata Motors tell me that this is competing in with the Innova/ Xylo and not with the Omni
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8th December 2009, 11:03	#88
MuraliR BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 361 Thanked: 35 Times	The roof seems too high - what happens to the centre of gravity. Hope it does not topple - like was common in the early days of Sumo.
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8th December 2009, 12:16	#89
harishnair BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Quilon/ Sharjah Posts: 511 Thanked: 6 Times	The pricing will most likely be more than Omni but less than the Sumo Victa. Also do you guys remember the van which M&M used to make in the 90s, I am not sure about its name.
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