The Light and Small Commercial Vehicle Thread

indianchiefrsd · 27th January 2010, 19:13

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Originally Posted by kadri007

I think it will take some time for everyone to prove. But truly the SCV (Small Commercial Vehicle) segment has become hot and exciting.

Right you are,

the scene's a little different in Mumbai with the Ace not the Ace super and the Mahindra Maxxi Truck being more and the the Force Minidor also having a presence. The Piaggio Ape is big in the .5 tonne market. This is suppose is different from the scene in b'lore

So while the Super Ace tries to steal market share of the Bolero Maxxi truck the Maxximo will be trying to steal the market share of the Ace. In the end I suspect the overall market will start to get geographically segmented like the HCV market.

It is still nice that the Automobile market in India is said to see a wonderful array of vehicles to come in not only in the passenger car segment but also in the CV segment.

amit V8 · 27th January 2010, 20:41

the Mitsubishi fuso distributed by. sorry for the horrible picture, this one is a fire truck. small, nice & ready for WB roads.

these trucks are launched in India by Diamler AG.

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indianchiefrsd · 28th January 2010, 17:52

Came across this article which talks about how LCV's in India are providing an creature comforts usually reserved for cars.

Of the Major speakers were representatives from Mahindra and Ashok Leyland.

I have copied the text for easier read. The Author is Rajesh Chandramouli, TNN, 25 January 2010

and the article is

Chennai: The long standing image of a truck as a dull and drab looking motorised contraption is all set for an overhaul. It's not just the exteriors, but manufacturers are now wooing truck drivers with comforts which are very close to a modern-day car passengers.

Instead of the wooden bench for a seat, a brick to adjust height of it, now comes air suspension seats and two-tone beige interiors, et al.

"Driver productivity is very important, especially considering that we as a country are facing shortage of truck drivers. As a manufacturer, it is important to understand the customer pain points and deliver solutions accordingly," said Rajeev Saharia, executive director, marketing, Ashok Leyland, the country's second-largest truck maker.

Consequently, trucks and mini trucks are now fitted with longer leaf springs, damper seats, cabin berths for co-driver to take rest and improved safety features. Agrees, Vivek Nayer, V-P marketing, automotive sector, Mahindra & Mahindra. "As part of our customer research programme, we found that the drivers were usually given a go-bye. Drivers whom we interacted with, complained of back aches and wanted to have mobile phone holders and other requisites in their cabin. Which is why, while designing the Gio, (a sub-one tonne four-wheeler for cargo applications) and Maxximo (a mini-truck with a load carrying capacity of 850 kgs), we took care to load them with almost car-like interiors," Nayer said.

Industry analysts said commercial vehicle users have got a taste of the comforts that could be loaded on to vehicles through usage of products of Volvo and Daimler, both of whom are expanding rapidly in the Indian market and are increasingly being preffered by big operators, despite their high price. Also, with the improvement in roads across the country, the duration for which drivers stay on the road has also gone up, thus requiring higher cab amenities.

Earlier, truck makers would sell the chassis to fleet owners who, in turn, drove them to body builders. The fleet owner now understands that it is important to give basic comforts for the driver. Even un-organised body builders are toning up the interiors of the cabin to please the user. With high technology trucks, it is absolutely important that the person who uses the assets sweats it to the maximum. Today, a long haul driver can do 18 hours of driving and therefore it is absolutely important to provide a comfortable cabin, another manufacturer said.

"For companies like Leyland, factory-fitted body units in tipper applications is almost 60% of total sales while it is 100% in ready mix concrete trucks. It is now becoming clear that if the work environment is improved, productivity also increases," Leyland's Saharia said.

Trucks go for smart look - India Business - Biz - The Times of India

Ashley2 · 29th January 2010, 19:42

Inline with the above quote ALL will be relaunching their not so popular Ecomets under Ecomet Strong and Smart Variants. They will feature some improved trim parts with modified driveline and other features.
TML is in the verge of replacing their all time favourite 407 and other LCV's with new series of vehicles in a month or two.
News in Todays Economic Times.

Mpower · 29th January 2010, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by amit V8

the Mitsubishi fuso distributed by. sorry for the horrible picture, this one is a fire truck. small, nice & ready for WB roads.

these trucks are launched in India by Diamler AG.

Amit, please provide more info and source? Are these gray imports or is FUSO officially launched in India. Looks like HCV not LCV.

sidindica · 30th January 2010, 19:06

HM Shifang Winner 1.8 CNG BS 4 spotted near my locality.

kadri007 · 18th February 2010, 20:04

Mahindra Gio seems to be a hit in the SCV market, till now saw around 5 Gio's running in Bangalore.

The vehicle looks absolutely wired. It has horrible looks. But it seemed to be a lot piratical vehicle and stable vehicle compared to three wheelers.

indianchiefrsd · 18th February 2010, 20:19

Quote:

Mahindra Gio seems to be a hit in the SCV market, till now saw around 5 Gio's running in Bangalore.

The vehicle looks absolutely wired. It has horrible looks. But it seemed to be a lot piratical vehicle and stable vehicle compared to three wheelers.

Plus one to that it does look different and practicle, I saw one as a water carrier the other day. but they seem to have done better with the Maxximo and the Mahindra Navistar range

kadri007 · 18th February 2010, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by indianchiefrsd

Plus one to that it does look different and practicle, I saw one as a water carrier the other day. but they seem to have done better with the Maxximo and the Mahindra Navistar range

Till now didn't see any Maxximo and Navistar trucks in Bangalore.

From few days I am also seeing the Force Motors Trump 40. I think some wholesale distribution company has taken it. Since all of them look the same and saw it in different parts of city.

amit V8 · 19th February 2010, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

Amit, please provide more info and source? Are these gray imports or is FUSO officially launched in India. Looks like HCV not LCV.

no, it was pretty small, similar to the size of an ace. here is a link containing details.

http://www.bsmotoring.com/news/daiml...n-india/1449/1

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

HM Shifang Winner 1.8 CNG BS 4 spotted near my locality.

nice pics. 1.8 BS4...cool.

indianchiefrsd · 19th February 2010, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadri007

Till now didn't see any Maxximo and Navistar trucks in Bangalore.

That's because they just launched the car in the Auto Expo, they will start selling from next month onwards. At least the Maxximo does, you'll find the threads on T-bhp.

Ashley2 · 19th February 2010, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadri007

Mahindra Gio seems to be a hit in the SCV market, till now saw around 5 Gio's running in Bangalore.

The vehicle looks absolutely wired. It has horrible looks. But it seemed to be a lot piratical vehicle and stable vehicle compared to three wheelers.

I have absolutely no answer.how come this can be assumed as a instant hint by just selling a hand full of vehicles.

SirAlec · 23rd February 2010, 00:28

All of a sudden after tata revolutionied this segment by ACe there are many unkonwn company that can be seen on Delhi roads. i saw one called Virgo in delhi. Its a LPG truck.

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kjmads · 1st March 2010, 00:53

The 1.5D HM Shifeng I spotted last week in Bangalore. The vehicle seems well proportioned and sturdy. Looks like a winner from HM after a long long time...

Leymama · 13th March 2010, 09:03

Wuling GM SAIC LCV being planned for india

India Automotive: GMI, SAIC-Wuling may launch minivan in India in 2010-11

27th January 2010, 20:41	#17
amit V8 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: kolkata Posts: 1,070 Thanked: 217 Times	the Mitsubishi fuso distributed by. sorry for the horrible picture, this one is a fire truck. small, nice & ready for WB roads. these trucks are launched in India by Diamler AG.
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28th January 2010, 17:52	#18
indianchiefrsd BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 74 Thanked: 0 Times	Came across this article which talks about how LCV's in India are providing an creature comforts usually reserved for cars. Of the Major speakers were representatives from Mahindra and Ashok Leyland. I have copied the text for easier read. The Author is Rajesh Chandramouli, TNN, 25 January 2010 and the article is Chennai: The long standing image of a truck as a dull and drab looking motorised contraption is all set for an overhaul. It's not just the exteriors, but manufacturers are now wooing truck drivers with comforts which are very close to a modern-day car passengers. Instead of the wooden bench for a seat, a brick to adjust height of it, now comes air suspension seats and two-tone beige interiors, et al. "Driver productivity is very important, especially considering that we as a country are facing shortage of truck drivers. As a manufacturer, it is important to understand the customer pain points and deliver solutions accordingly," said Rajeev Saharia, executive director, marketing, Ashok Leyland, the country's second-largest truck maker. Consequently, trucks and mini trucks are now fitted with longer leaf springs, damper seats, cabin berths for co-driver to take rest and improved safety features. Agrees, Vivek Nayer, V-P marketing, automotive sector, Mahindra & Mahindra. "As part of our customer research programme, we found that the drivers were usually given a go-bye. Drivers whom we interacted with, complained of back aches and wanted to have mobile phone holders and other requisites in their cabin. Which is why, while designing the Gio, (a sub-one tonne four-wheeler for cargo applications) and Maxximo (a mini-truck with a load carrying capacity of 850 kgs), we took care to load them with almost car-like interiors," Nayer said. Industry analysts said commercial vehicle users have got a taste of the comforts that could be loaded on to vehicles through usage of products of Volvo and Daimler, both of whom are expanding rapidly in the Indian market and are increasingly being preffered by big operators, despite their high price. Also, with the improvement in roads across the country, the duration for which drivers stay on the road has also gone up, thus requiring higher cab amenities. Earlier, truck makers would sell the chassis to fleet owners who, in turn, drove them to body builders. The fleet owner now understands that it is important to give basic comforts for the driver. Even un-organised body builders are toning up the interiors of the cabin to please the user. With high technology trucks, it is absolutely important that the person who uses the assets sweats it to the maximum. Today, a long haul driver can do 18 hours of driving and therefore it is absolutely important to provide a comfortable cabin, another manufacturer said. "For companies like Leyland, factory-fitted body units in tipper applications is almost 60% of total sales while it is 100% in ready mix concrete trucks. It is now becoming clear that if the work environment is improved, productivity also increases," Leyland's Saharia said. Trucks go for smart look - India Business - Biz - The Times of India
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29th January 2010, 19:42	#19
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	Trucks to go Smarter Inline with the above quote ALL will be relaunching their not so popular Ecomets under Ecomet Strong and Smart Variants. They will feature some improved trim parts with modified driveline and other features. TML is in the verge of replacing their all time favourite 407 and other LCV's with new series of vehicles in a month or two. News in Todays Economic Times.
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kadri007 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore/Mangalore Posts: 433 Thanked: 7 Times	Mahindra Gio seems to be a hit in the SCV market, till now saw around 5 Gio's running in Bangalore. The vehicle looks absolutely wired. It has horrible looks. But it seemed to be a lot piratical vehicle and stable vehicle compared to three wheelers.
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23rd February 2010, 00:28	#28
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	All of a sudden after tata revolutionied this segment by ACe there are many unkonwn company that can be seen on Delhi roads. i saw one called Virgo in delhi. Its a LPG truck.
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kjmads Newbie Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17 Thanked: Once	The 1.5D HM Shifeng I spotted last week in Bangalore. The vehicle seems well proportioned and sturdy. Looks like a winner from HM after a long long time...
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Leymama BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Deutschland Posts: 71 Thanked: 74 Times	Wuling GM SAIC LCV being planned for india India Automotive: GMI, SAIC-Wuling may launch minivan in India in 2010-11 Attached Thumbnails
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