The DSLR Thread

tifosikrishna · 29th March 2006, 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Its the exact same cam. Even for 300D(predecessor to 350D) the brandname all over the world was 300D, but in US it was called "Kiss Digital"

tsk, 300d was known as digital rebel in US and kiss digital in japan.

Samurai · 29th March 2006, 09:04

I struggled with this question for a long time. I even considered 20D vs D200 question, but I got sick of the compromises and prices. In fact I decided on 20D and on the day I was ordering, 30D was announced.

So, I pulled myself back and looked at it from outside the box. Why Canon vs Nikon only? To make the story short I bought Olympus E-500 with 14-54mm (f/2.8-3.5) and 40-150mm ( f/3.5-4.5) with B&W MC UV filter for both lens and 2GB Ultra II memory for just Rs.67K from Amazon.com. My boss delivered it from US.

ntomer · 29th March 2006, 13:33

Hi,

I have zeroed down on Nikon D50; I researched a lot; and found that for a newbie D50 is more than adequate. It is about 12K cheaper than 350D and abt 16K cheaper than D70s. This D50 it's going to be...

Now another point; jjmehta is offering it with AF 18-55mm G ED Lens, 2GB CF / SD and UV Filter for Rs. 35,250/- and have this undernote on their site-

* Warranty : Above items will carry a 3 Month warranty from our side . Any major problem with the camera will be replaced. Minor problem, then we will get it repaired at no charge to you , by us . Price is without taxes . Conditions Applied .

For canon 350D they are offering canon india warranty; but not for Nikon. So will it be safe to buy from them.

Any idea where I can buy authentic Nikon dSLRs (with bill and warranty) in Delhi? And what's the price of D50 (with bill)?

\N

rkg · 29th March 2006, 14:20

Hi!
canon 350 D has CMOS sensor which is better than CCD sensor's in most digital camera's. iam not sure of nikon slr about CMOS or CCD but latest olympus digital slr is CCD only not cmos. we recenlty baught 350D in bangalore for 48K with 1 GB CF card. but the offer at JJmehta is 43K for 350D with 1GB CF + UV film + carry bag.

rkg · 29th March 2006, 14:26

Hi!
both nikon D50 and D70 are CCD only not CMOS. further they are 6.1 megapixel compared to canon 8 mega pixel

tsk1979 · 29th March 2006, 16:53

Caution. If anythings goes wrong with the camera after three months you are looking at a very very expensive repair bill. So dont invest so much without warranty. If you were in the US D50 would have been a great deal, but not in India.
Here with bill and warranty(1 year only) Nikon D50 costs 55000(kit lens).
But if you buy 350D with bill and warranty(2 years) + 1GB flash card, the cost is 45000rs and most dealers will give you a free camera bag. Dont buy from canon digicam zones, these are located in posh localities and wont come down even one rupee below 47500. however you can go to pritam studios in chandni chowk, or digicam zone in Palika bazaar. they will give you around 37K price without warranty and 45500-46000 price with warranty(2 years). You will also get a CF card 1GB. UV filters are cheap and MC filters(make sure you get a multicoated and not ordinary filter) for 300-500 each.
I bough my 350D from digicam zone. I would have saved 500rs if I had gone to chandni chowk.
also make sure you pay by cash as if you pay by credit card(both pritam and digicam zone accept cards) you will end up paying 2.5% extra. I paid part cash and part card.
You can PM me if you want any specific details.

Samurai · 29th March 2006, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkg

Hi!
both nikon D50 and D70 are CCD only not CMOS. further they are 6.1 megapixel compared to canon 8 mega pixel

I dropped 350D because it didn't have spot metering.

Here is a good comparision between D70s and 350D.

http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/Nik...sRebelXT.shtml

tsk1979 · 29th March 2006, 17:16

I also wanted the D50, but no warranty made me look away. But I am glad I did not. Reason, no mirror lockup. I have some 300mm(480mm equiv) shots on tripid at shutter speeds of 1/10s and so which come out hazy without mirror lockup.
As for compensating spot metering, at first my birds would come out dark when shot against the sky, but a 2 stop exposure compensation fixed that.
As for the comparisons, http://www.dpreview.com is the site I trust. BTW samurai, why dont you join us at http://paai.in? Some tbhpians there including rudra ji

Samurai · 29th March 2006, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

As for the comparisons, http://www.dpreview.com is the site I trust.

I too trust them. It was there where I realised 350D images were superior to D70s and Olympus E500 images very close to 350D or D20.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

BTW samurai, why dont you join us at http://paai.in? Some tbhpians there including rudra ji

I might, just wondering whether I have the time for one more forum.

HotChillyPepper · 29th March 2006, 20:37

Dude,
Try out Lumix (Panasonic) FZ20 or FZ30 before buying anything else. REcently I have purchased an FZ20 from China for my friend. The picture and Image stabilization is amazing. It got and option for manual focusing (using the focusing ring) too. FZ20 is ideal. But if you want the advantage of 8Mpixel check out FZ30. Its coming with the lense hood too. For FZ 20 I have spend 23K with 1GB extra SD card and one extra orginal panasonic Battery. All made in Japan.

tsk1979 · 29th March 2006, 21:54

He is looking for a DSLR, Digital Single Lens reflex camera, not a Fixed lens Prosumer

zaphod · 3rd April 2006, 19:00

i'm looking to buy a digital camera finally - film works out too expensive on holidays etc (I have a Nikon F55) apart from the other advantages of going digital (no going back and realising that you made a mess up of that gorgeous sunset.....)

Are there any decent digital SLR's under 25K ? I don't really want to spend 50-70k on a camera right now...

cheers

zaphod

tsk1979 · 4th April 2006, 00:08

Not in India. In the US after rebates you can get a 350D body for 600$, a E-500 or a D-50 kit for around 600-630$.

navin · 4th April 2006, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaphod

i'm looking to buy a digital camera finally - film works out too expensive on holidays etc (I have a Nikon F55)...Are there any decent digital SLR's under 25K ? I don't really want to spend 50-70k on a camera right now...

this is a good read...
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=17875300

For under 25K ($600) I'd look at the following

Canon S80 - hot shoe with a 420EX/430EX or 540EX, 28mm wide
Kodak P880 - same as above...
see http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canons80/page13.asp
and http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/kodakp880/page14.asp

OR

Kodak P850 hot shoe, 12x, IS
Panny FZ20/30 same as above
see http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pana...z30/page11.asp
and http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/kodakp850/page14.asp
note the Kodak is under $400 and hence can be a better value..but the FZ30 is being comapred the the Canon 350 SLR here
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pana...z30/page13.asp

or if you prefer Nikon the Nikon 7900
see http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp7900/page8.asp

ntomer · 12th April 2006, 11:46

Hi TSK and others,

Thanx for all the help. I was off for past few days so couldn't reply earlier. I have decided to go for Canon 350D; I will be buying it this weekend from Alfa in Palika Bazar. Will post my expereince with it.

\N

29th March 2006, 09:04	#17
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,948 Thanked: 47,205 Times View My Garage	I struggled with this question for a long time. I even considered 20D vs D200 question, but I got sick of the compromises and prices. In fact I decided on 20D and on the day I was ordering, 30D was announced. So, I pulled myself back and looked at it from outside the box. Why Canon vs Nikon only? To make the story short I bought Olympus E-500 with 14-54mm (f/2.8-3.5) and 40-150mm ( f/3.5-4.5) with B&W MC UV filter for both lens and 2GB Ultra II memory for just Rs.67K from Amazon.com. My boss delivered it from US.
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29th March 2006, 13:33	#18
ntomer BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver Posts: 647 Thanked: 137 Times	Hi, I have zeroed down on Nikon D50; I researched a lot; and found that for a newbie D50 is more than adequate. It is about 12K cheaper than 350D and abt 16K cheaper than D70s. This D50 it's going to be... Now another point; jjmehta is offering it with AF 18-55mm G ED Lens, 2GB CF / SD and UV Filter for Rs. 35,250/- and have this undernote on their site- * Warranty : Above items will carry a 3 Month warranty from our side . Any major problem with the camera will be replaced. Minor problem, then we will get it repaired at no charge to you , by us . Price is without taxes . Conditions Applied . For canon 350D they are offering canon india warranty; but not for Nikon. So will it be safe to buy from them. Any idea where I can buy authentic Nikon dSLRs (with bill and warranty) in Delhi? And what's the price of D50 (with bill)? \N
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29th March 2006, 14:20	#19
rkg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 597 Times	Hi! canon 350 D has CMOS sensor which is better than CCD sensor's in most digital camera's. iam not sure of nikon slr about CMOS or CCD but latest olympus digital slr is CCD only not cmos. we recenlty baught 350D in bangalore for 48K with 1 GB CF card. but the offer at JJmehta is 43K for 350D with 1GB CF + UV film + carry bag.
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29th March 2006, 14:26	#20
rkg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 597 Times	Hi! both nikon D50 and D70 are CCD only not CMOS. further they are 6.1 megapixel compared to canon 8 mega pixel
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29th March 2006, 16:53	#21
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,725 Thanked: 23,043 Times View My Garage	Caution. If anythings goes wrong with the camera after three months you are looking at a very very expensive repair bill. So dont invest so much without warranty. If you were in the US D50 would have been a great deal, but not in India. Here with bill and warranty(1 year only) Nikon D50 costs 55000(kit lens). But if you buy 350D with bill and warranty(2 years) + 1GB flash card, the cost is 45000rs and most dealers will give you a free camera bag. Dont buy from canon digicam zones, these are located in posh localities and wont come down even one rupee below 47500. however you can go to pritam studios in chandni chowk, or digicam zone in Palika bazaar. they will give you around 37K price without warranty and 45500-46000 price with warranty(2 years). You will also get a CF card 1GB. UV filters are cheap and MC filters(make sure you get a multicoated and not ordinary filter) for 300-500 each. I bough my 350D from digicam zone. I would have saved 500rs if I had gone to chandni chowk. also make sure you pay by cash as if you pay by credit card(both pritam and digicam zone accept cards) you will end up paying 2.5% extra. I paid part cash and part card. You can PM me if you want any specific details.
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29th March 2006, 17:16	#23
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,725 Thanked: 23,043 Times View My Garage	I also wanted the D50, but no warranty made me look away. But I am glad I did not. Reason, no mirror lockup. I have some 300mm(480mm equiv) shots on tripid at shutter speeds of 1/10s and so which come out hazy without mirror lockup. As for compensating spot metering, at first my birds would come out dark when shot against the sky, but a 2 stop exposure compensation fixed that. As for the comparisons, http://www.dpreview.com is the site I trust. BTW samurai, why dont you join us at http://paai.in? Some tbhpians there including rudra ji
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29th March 2006, 20:37	#25
HotChillyPepper BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bang_a_lore Posts: 628 Thanked: 291 Times View My Garage	Dude, Try out Lumix (Panasonic) FZ20 or FZ30 before buying anything else. REcently I have purchased an FZ20 from China for my friend. The picture and Image stabilization is amazing. It got and option for manual focusing (using the focusing ring) too. FZ20 is ideal. But if you want the advantage of 8Mpixel check out FZ30. Its coming with the lense hood too. For FZ 20 I have spend 23K with 1GB extra SD card and one extra orginal panasonic Battery. All made in Japan. Last edited by HotChillyPepper : 29th March 2006 at 20:41.
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29th March 2006, 21:54	#26
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,725 Thanked: 23,043 Times View My Garage	He is looking for a DSLR, Digital Single Lens reflex camera, not a Fixed lens Prosumer
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3rd April 2006, 19:00	#27
zaphod BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NO IDeA/Madurai Posts: 236 Thanked: 4 Times	i'm looking to buy a digital camera finally - film works out too expensive on holidays etc (I have a Nikon F55) apart from the other advantages of going digital (no going back and realising that you made a mess up of that gorgeous sunset.....) Are there any decent digital SLR's under 25K ? I don't really want to spend 50-70k on a camera right now... cheers zaphod Last edited by zaphod : 3rd April 2006 at 19:02.
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4th April 2006, 00:08	#28
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,725 Thanked: 23,043 Times View My Garage	Not in India. In the US after rebates you can get a 350D body for 600$, a E-500 or a D-50 kit for around 600-630$.
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12th April 2006, 11:46	#30
ntomer BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver Posts: 647 Thanked: 137 Times	Hi TSK and others, Thanx for all the help. I was off for past few days so couldn't reply earlier. I have decided to go for Canon 350D; I will be buying it this weekend from Alfa in Palika Bazar. Will post my expereince with it. \N
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