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Originally Posted by nilanjanray My initial statement - a personal comment, not a post asking for advice - wasn't meant to trigger such a discussion in the first place. I am pretty clear about what I want and what suits me. Whichever company satisfies my need, will get my money. And I would do my thorough research and will rent out or borrow the competitors before putting my money. BUT statements like this make me react strongly. These are very superficial comments based on limited or one time experience. If you had taken tens of thousands of wildlife photos, or were actively using so called 'pro' gear in the field, I could understand. But your statement comes out as a motherhood statement that contradicts the thousands of great wildlife photos taken with these lenses (just visit 500px or Flickr or Pbase, the evidence is there).
Let me respond this last time:
1. Amateurs can be serious about wildlife without buying super expensive fast primes.
2. Some of us try to squeeze the most out of our gear. So that when we do upgrade, we know exactly what we want based on our unique needs and style. And based on where we fall in the "crawl - walk - run - sprint" continuum of our skills and budget. And sometimes we accept that the gear is not capable of handling a situation and then simply enjoy what is happening in front of our eyes ![Smile](https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.png) . And no, we won't sit at home twiddling our thumbs because we don't have the 'right gear' yet - we would rather be out shooting. Yes, shooting seriously and passionately.
3. For folks who are wondering whether the 'budget' Nikon or Canon zooms are adequate for wildlife, here are a few shots with a poorer cousin of those XX - 400mm lenses. And advise for newbies - the person behind the gear is as important (sometimes more) as the gear. |
Well I am a serious amateur have been shooting wild life and birds for the last 7 or so years and when I say that if you are going to be serious about wild life, you cannot base a system only on a slow F5.6 400 lens, this is from personal experience. The example I quoted was just 1 of the many experiences I have had with a slow 400 lens.
Agree I too do not have the privilege of shooting extensively with pro equipment but I have done it a lot of times. The wild life group I shoot with gives me access to a 500 4 , 600 4 and 300 2.8.
So I know these can surely take my photography to another level, no matter how good a shot I get with my gear of limited abilities. Trust me I am as passionate about my wild life photography as anybody on this forum and I make do with some pretty poor equipment most of the time.
Of course like you, this does not discourage me from shooting with my same old slow lens coz that's the only thing I have at this moment. But the point is that there are options to mitigate this problem and some day I hope to do it as have many others. At least we agree on this part
But I do wish that I was a satisfied customer like you and could just become a passive spectator of the scene just gone by that I could not capture with my equipment of limited abilities.
About getting good photos from not such great equipment, good photographers have been doing that ever since the beginning of photography.
I too can point out to a lot of brilliant images taken with not so great equipment, but whats the point. There is no doubt that better equipment can improve my photography as it has done for countless other people. By pointing to a few great images from a lesser lens does that make that lens brilliant and a panacea for all your wild life photography limitations.
Bottom line is if you are serious about wild life, I don't think one single lens or a camera will make me choose a particular system and that too a slow enthusiast zoom with all other factors being almost neck to neck. This by the way is my personal opinion and its not targeted at you.
About giving 'unsolicited opinion', you have voiced your opinion on a public forum, where someone like me has reacted to a comment made by you that he thinks is irrelevant or debatable. So lets leave it at that, coz you are free to choose your equipment and where you spend your money. But there will be others like me who will give 'unsolicited' comments if they disagree with some thing they see posted on these forums.
With this I rest my case.
One from my recent trip to Bandhavgarh. Shot at around 6:30 AM when I sorely missed a faster lens.