Guys, Planning to buy a PDA, Pl advice!

hydrashok · 28th May 2007, 14:16

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

Soon. Vodafone will drive 3G, others will follow.

I really hope this will happen. It is getting so late, it is ridiculous. I'd read 3 days back in the papers that the Defence guys are now refusing to vacate the frequency spectrum(?) that will be needed for rolling out 3G.

MC Mayank · 28th May 2007, 14:27

so at the moment the fastest net connectivity via phones/pda's is thru EDGE?

devarshi84 · 28th May 2007, 14:31

there are HSDPA phones. coming really soon.

hydrashok · 28th May 2007, 14:35

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Originally Posted by devarshi84

there are HSDPA phones. coming really soon.

HSDPA is basically a flavour of 3G, isn't it? That is, it needs 3G networks to hop on? Or is it a standalone technology?

devarshi84 · 28th May 2007, 14:44

yes, its 3g and they can also be used in notebooks. As fast as our home cable internet, on the move.

MC Mayank · 28th May 2007, 15:14

Eten glofiish X800 - Full phone specifications

Looks nice doesn't it? Seems to have everything that everybody has been talking about in this thread.

Any hope of getting this phone from the US or something? Will it work in India? Pardon my ignorance about things like locked/unlocked etc.

Steeroid · 28th May 2007, 15:14

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Originally Posted by hydrashok

HSDPA is basically a flavour of 3G, isn't it? That is, it needs 3G networks to hop on? Or is it a standalone technology?

HSDPA is 3.5G. Most 3G handsets these days are HSDPA compliant, and so are most of the new 3G networks - it gives faster speeds than 3G and I doubt if any of the manufacturers make 3G-only networks these days.

Even if they do, the chinese make 3.5G networks at a cost less than that of 3G networks by Ericsson, Alcatel, Nokia, Motorola or Siemens.

MC Mayank · 4th June 2007, 15:35

Anyone have any experience with the o2 atom life or o2 flame?

Here is a review of the life that is rather short on praise

O2 Xda Atom Life: Reviews - Cool Gear - Mobile Phones - ZDNet Australia

Wanted to get others' take on it.. And any idea about pricing and availability in India?

jkdas · 18th June 2007, 09:45

Smartphones: Sony Ericsson P1 Follows Up P990 By Going 25% Smaller - Gizmodo

think looks far better, check the specs!

hydrashok · 18th June 2007, 10:02

Airtel and HTC have tied up to release the HTC Touch (HTC's competition for the Apple iPhone) in India. Pricing is said to be in the low 20s. Only in L1 Metros right now. Rollout in the rest of the metros soooon.

Deets of the HTC Touch: HTC Touch P3450 (HTC Elf) Specs | Technical Specifications | PDAdb.net

Source of info: New item in THE HINDU last friday/saturday [Yes, I took my sweet time...

]

EDIT: Here's the newsitem from THE HINDU website: http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/t...06/16/&prd=th&

w 12 · 18th June 2007, 10:34

HTC touch does not support 3 G

so it will not support HSDPA as well.. A glaring omission IMO..

certainly not expected in a PDA with such advanced GUI

hydrashok · 18th June 2007, 10:36

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Originally Posted by w 12

HTC touch does not support 3 G

so it may not support HSDPA as well.. A glaring omission IMO..

The way things are dragging, No 3G may not make any difference for another year at least. Grrrrrrr... I wish the parties involved (govt, defence and the service providers) would stop playing catch with each other and do something solid about it.

w 12 · 18th June 2007, 10:56

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Originally Posted by hydrashok

The way things are dragging, No 3G may not make any difference for another year at least.

Agree hydra,,but Touch will become obsolete if 3 g becomes a reality in 6 months / 1 year. To compare look at the available connectivity options in Nokia E 61i , Connectivity

WCDMA PS (packet switched data) with maximum upload and download rate of 384 kbps
GPRS/EGPRS (Class B, MSC 32)
GSM CSD (circuit-switched data) up to 14.4 kbps
HSCSD (high-speed circuit-switched data) up to 43.2 kbps
Dual transfer mode MSC11, SAIC (single antenna interference cancellation) release v2
Integrated WLAN
- WLAN: 802.11b, 802.11g*
- WLAN Security: WPA2-Enterprise, WPA2-Personal, WPA-Enterprise, WPA-Personal
- WLAN Quality of Service: WMM, U-APSD
Email data roaming
Integrated infrared module (up to 115 kbps)
USB 2.0 full speed supported through Pop-Port™ interface
Bluetooth 1.2 specification

As I plan to use this PDA ,atleast for 2 years ,before an upgrade , think makes sense to buy something which is future proof , atleast for technolgy which is around the corner.

What according to you is the best PDA / smartphone below 25K in India ? ( with b & W )

hydrashok · 18th June 2007, 11:42

W12 I agree with you completely on the E61i. In fact I'd suggested this phone to two of my friends last month, and both of them picked it up the very week it was out here in Kerala. One of those guys has the very first one in Kerala. I saw and handled one of those, and it rocked. Solid build (no creaks), great screen, just the right size & weight, and a looooooong lasting battery. Not to mention that it is feature packed. The camera is pretty decent too. (The E61 & E62 lacked one)

Right now, I'd say the E61i is the best buy (I think it is 19.5k) at the under 25K mark. All it lacks is a touchscreen which I prefer (My XDA IIi has spoilt me). The next IMHO would be the Atom Life, but I think that is like 32K (in the grey).

If you use Outlook heavily, there is this software called Roadsync for Symbian ($50 I think) that keeps your phone synced with the server.

w 12 · 18th June 2007, 13:38

Thanks Hydrashok.

E 61i looks like a winner at that price.certainly in my shortlist.unfortunately grey market is a strict NO No for me.

waiting for Sony Ericssons P1! to be launched .hoping they will price it around 25k in India .

Another option is Samsung i600 , which should get SW upgrade to WM6 soon.

O>T> Have you read about the Meizu Minione ? ?Meizu's miniOne packs more acronyms than you can handle - Engadget

a killer package , if true.

28th May 2007, 14:27	#122
MC Mayank BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 3 Times	so at the moment the fastest net connectivity via phones/pda's is thru EDGE?
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28th May 2007, 14:31	#123
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	there are HSDPA phones. coming really soon.
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28th May 2007, 14:44	#125
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	yes, its 3g and they can also be used in notebooks. As fast as our home cable internet, on the move.
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28th May 2007, 15:14	#126
MC Mayank BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 3 Times	Eten glofiish X800 - Full phone specifications Looks nice doesn't it? Seems to have everything that everybody has been talking about in this thread. Any hope of getting this phone from the US or something? Will it work in India? Pardon my ignorance about things like locked/unlocked etc.
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MC Mayank BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 3 Times	Anyone have any experience with the o2 atom life or o2 flame? Here is a review of the life that is rather short on praise O2 Xda Atom Life: Reviews - Cool Gear - Mobile Phones - ZDNet Australia Wanted to get others' take on it.. And any idea about pricing and availability in India? Last edited by MC Mayank : 4th June 2007 at 15:37.
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	sony ericsson P1 Smartphones: Sony Ericsson P1 Follows Up P990 By Going 25% Smaller - Gizmodo think looks far better, check the specs!
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hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	Airtel and HTC have tied up to release the HTC Touch (HTC's competition for the Apple iPhone) in India. Pricing is said to be in the low 20s. Only in L1 Metros right now. Rollout in the rest of the metros soooon. Deets of the HTC Touch: HTC Touch P3450 (HTC Elf) Specs \| Technical Specifications \| PDAdb.net Source of info: New item in THE HINDU last friday/saturday [Yes, I took my sweet time... ] EDIT: Here's the newsitem from THE HINDU website: http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/t...06/16/&prd=th& Last edited by hydrashok : 18th June 2007 at 10:08.
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w 12 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 402 Thanked: 27 Times	HTC touch does not support 3 G so it will not support HSDPA as well.. A glaring omission IMO.. certainly not expected in a PDA with such advanced GUI Last edited by w 12 : 18th June 2007 at 10:36.
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18th June 2007, 11:42	#134
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	W12 I agree with you completely on the E61i. In fact I'd suggested this phone to two of my friends last month, and both of them picked it up the very week it was out here in Kerala. One of those guys has the very first one in Kerala. I saw and handled one of those, and it rocked. Solid build (no creaks), great screen, just the right size & weight, and a looooooong lasting battery. Not to mention that it is feature packed. The camera is pretty decent too. (The E61 & E62 lacked one) Right now, I'd say the E61i is the best buy (I think it is 19.5k) at the under 25K mark. All it lacks is a touchscreen which I prefer (My XDA IIi has spoilt me). The next IMHO would be the Atom Life, but I think that is like 32K (in the grey). If you use Outlook heavily, there is this software called Roadsync for Symbian ($50 I think) that keeps your phone synced with the server.
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18th June 2007, 13:38	#135
w 12 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 402 Thanked: 27 Times	Thanks Hydrashok. E 61i looks like a winner at that price.certainly in my shortlist.unfortunately grey market is a strict NO No for me. waiting for Sony Ericssons P1! to be launched .hoping they will price it around 25k in India . Another option is Samsung i600 , which should get SW upgrade to WM6 soon. O>T> Have you read about the Meizu Minione ? ?Meizu's miniOne packs more acronyms than you can handle - Engadget a killer package , if true.
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