I went through this entire thread in one sitting an I have to say .... HOOO BOYYY.
Almost all car manufacturers, it seems are evil creatures with horns on their heads and a tail with an arrow head end.
Of the 2 things that are being discussed, "cost cutting" unanimously seems to emerge as a
very bad thing to do. I ask this, is it really so bad?
Cost cutting simply means to cut costs. NOT cut corners, but cut costs. A good example of the same would be parts sharing between different products from the same manufacturer (Ford - Fiesta, Figo. Suzuki - Swift, SX 4, Vitara). As long as the vehichle meets it objective, as prescribed by the manufacturer, based on what is in demand (why else would they produce something else) cost cutting IMO is not a bad thing at all.
Lets take the simplest of examples ... 2 pens. One is a Mont Blanc, the other a Reynolds. Both are pens designed to do one thing and one thing alone ... to write. But would that mean that the product specifications of the two would be the same? Me thinks NOT. One is premium, the other - Built to a COST. Now apply the same logic to a car manufacturer, sayyyyyyy Toyota. Now Toyota launched the Etios and had one objective in mind, to build the
cheapest Toyota sedan in the world. They looked at opportunities where they could cut costs and in turn, pass the benefit to the customer (in the form of a relatively easy to afford Toyota). They omitted some features (?) that helped them achieve their target WITHOUT compromising on their basic principal - An easy to run, reliable and efficient vehichle. So they took off the cladding on the wheel wells. This increased NVH levels at speed and did not look very nice. But it still did not take anything away from their objective of building a reliable car at a cost. Similarly, the placement of indicator stalks is a design decision. I personally find such a set up much better. In fact, I have no problems switching over from my LHS stalk configuration car (in a manner of speaking) to the RHS one. Not sure why this issue is being flogged here so much, with some people
insisting that this is a flaw / cutting corners thing. It works for some and does not for others. Lets just leave it at that.
The next part, a design flaw, IMO is something that was designed with a certain objective in mind but was unable to meet the requirement efficiently (or at all). Friendly neighbourhood mod Tanveer has given some very valid observations of the same taking Safari as an example (both design flaws and cost cuts, the bad ones).
Our dear thread starter seems to have a major major grouse with the windows not being able to roll down completely. Pray tell, what purpose is achieved by rolling down the window 100% than being able to roll it down 60 odd %? It would be very interesting to see.
We have also had some blanket statements from the above mentioned gentleman that, quite franky, leave me a bit amused. A few questions to you sir:
- Nobody drives with their dogs in the car OR dogs are not meant to travel in a car - A friend of mine owns 2 dogs and has to take them to a trusted vet around 30 kms from where he stays .. off and on. How do you think the dogs cover the distance? A nice long walk with the master?
- Kids that are old enough to roll down windows would know they should not jump / lean out the car window - Kids can do the darndest things imaginable. My wife's niece (4 odd years old i think) was once riding with her mom in my car's backseat. Just out of the blue, got free of her mum's grasp and yanked open the rear door. Oh and the car was in motion. Enough said?
Heck, we are even bringing in lack of safety features as
cost cutting. Really?
I mentioned this in another thread discussing the topic of "safety features in low end variants" that manufacturers will produce what the junta will demand. Take the example of one of the 10,000 units a month hatchback, Swift. The diesel has no airbags option. Even in petrol, the max versions that I get to see on raod are a mix between Vxi and Lxi. Why is it that every second petrol Swift is not a Zxi? The manufacturer is offering the option. Or how many Vxi's do you see sporting that ABS badge? Not many I would say. Aren't there other diesel hatchbacks in the market offering Airbags and other safety features? Why does the junta swarm towards the Swift? Is a good engine, funky design or Maruti A$$ greater than lives of thousands of customers and their loved ones? I dont know, but the sales chart does not seem to agree with the "Indians want safety features but these manufacturers are not giving it to us" syndrome. In fact, it would be utterly stupid of any manufacturer to ignore market demand. Remember, they are here to produce what the market wants.
So, must we blame Suzuki (or the likes) for not equipping the cars with Airbags and ABS and what not, or our own apathy towards such life savers? The hilariious part is, some also want the Govt. to ENFORCE this as a mandate for all cars. People who do not care two hoots for safety, must be begged and enforced to protect their and their loved ones' lives?Genious I say.
IMO this thread has outlived its purpose and will never reach a logical conclusion. Had it been something like a "list of cost cuttings you have observed" or something, I could still understand that. the only point I could agree with was the single reverse light part. I HATE it.
But out of sheer curiosity, what car do you own Mr thread starter sir?
Apologies for the long post. Peace