[architect]

Originally Posted by Nitrous Power

First, It's a 1.3 l engine and not 1.2 l.

Second, even though it's a same engine from Swift D and Dzire D, it has variable geometry turbo producing 90 bhp instead of swift's fixed geometry turbo producing 75- some bhp.

It is actually a 1,248 cc engine. Fiat and Maruti keep harping on "1.3 litre" but my middle school mathematics class tells me 1,248 should be rounded off to 1.25 (ideally) or 1.2 instead of 1.3.

[Nitrous Power]

Originally Posted by architect

It is actually a 1,248 cc engine. Fiat and Maruti keep harping on "1.3 litre" but my middle school mathematics class tells me 1,248 should be rounded off to 1.25 (ideally) or 1.2 instead of 1.3.

We are going off topic here in Sales thread here. As per your middle school mathematics class, it's 1.2 l but all I wanted to say is that the engine in SX4 is no way highly underpowered.

[BunnyPunia]

GTO - I think the Xylo's figures have been mis-printed by mistake. I saw the sudden drop in Xylo's sales and then did a little research:
M&M passenger vehicles, including Scorpio, XUV500, Xylo, Bolero and Verito, stood at 17,813 units. Add all the five vehicle's sales and it doesnt match up to 17,813 units. I think Xylo's sales stood at 2399 units for November 2011. Do check..

[microaubin]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Toyota has taken the 'cheap' compact car concept to another level, and it shows in the sales as well. Considering the margins and price levels both of these cars are offered at - they are receiving only lukewarm sales! [b]Consider this - Hyundai i20 which is a hatch at Etios sedan prices, sells almost close to what Liva + Etios sell- combined!

Toyota is letting its service levels slip hard and fast and with the arrival of their cheap compact cars its only a matter of time.

Just had a personal experience when my A/C on my corolla stopped working and they scheduled my car for repair after 8 days

Also talked to a few corolla owners in the waiting lounge where everyone seemed to share the same thought..Toyota fast losing its premium tag....too many Innovas coming in for service(Most of them being Private Taxi's, Rental cars & Taxi's)

Also felt Etios and Liva interiors too cheap for their price and compared to the competition. Personally I hate the odometer in the center!!

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by microaubin

Just had a personal experience when my A/C on my corolla stopped working and they scheduled my car for repair after 8 days

Looks like they need to increase their service centers in preperation for higher volumes, and FAST! If Innova volumes are hard to manage - situation will only worsen now - after the introduction of Etios twins.

[SDP]

Originally Posted by microaubin

..
Just had a personal experience when my A/C on my corolla stopped working and they scheduled my car for repair after 8 days
...

Don't want to generalize, but I have seen this even for Maruti in Mumbai. They are just too happy do "paid service" job for the thousands of vehicles that are getting added to the city every month.

The industry is growing, but the dealer network and service infrastructure is not really catching up.

[GTO]

Thanks Bunny. I just double-checked the data that I've received, and it does read 1637 for the Xylo.

Originally Posted by BunnyPunia

M&M passenger vehicles, including Scorpio, XUV500, Xylo, Bolero and Verito, stood at 17,813 units.

Can you please PM me the source of your information?

[srikanthns]

Originally Posted by microaubin

Toyota is letting its service levels slip hard and fast and with the arrival of their cheap compact cars its only a matter of time.



Also felt Etios and Liva interiors too cheap for their price and compared to the competition. Personally I hate the odometer in the center!!

With all this, the Sales people do not want any sales it seems. I enquired about diesel Liva, waiting period was told as 4 months. For Petrol Liva , it is 3 months in Kerala. Nippon toyota group is handling total Keral franchise for Toyota. Probably some one has to instill reality in their sales people's minds.

[sajanjohn]

Toyota December Sales is up by 151 percentage with 15948 units.

Etios car topped the yearly tally – with 43,313 units of Etios sedan and 20,262 units of Etios Liva hatchback, respectively.

Source: Toyota’s December sales up 151 percent | tdnpost.com - News and Lifestyle Online Magazine

[amalji]

Originally Posted by sajanjohn

Toyota December Sales is up by 151 percentage with 15948 units.

Etios car topped the yearly tally – with 43,313 units of Etios sedan and 20,262 units of Etios Liva hatchback, respectively.

Source: Toyota’s December sales up 151 percent | tdnpost.com - News and Lifestyle Online Magazine

15,948 units for a month is all-time high for Toyota in India!
Etios/Liva is slowly but surely getting into the hearts of Indians like the music of A R Rahman.

[nurni76]

Maruti Sales down 7% in DEC 2011 over previous year. Total sales 92K vs 99K

domestic sales 77K vs 89K

Source: Maruti Website - Maruti Suzuki Sales in December 2011

GM ends year with record sales of 1.12L. Dec sales has increased 7% with sales of around 9K.

[Latheesh]

Tata Motors Dec-11 Sales = 29417 (28916 TATA + 501 FIAT)
Nano: 7466
Indica/Vista Range: 9307
Indigo/Manza Range: 6888
Sumo/Venture/Safari/Aria Range: 5255


The passenger vehicles business reported a total sale and distribution offtake of 29,417 nos. (28,916 Tata + 501 Fiat) in the domestic market in December 2011, higher by 47% compared to 19,973 nos. (19,699 Tata + 274 Fiat) in December last year. Sales of Tata passenger vehicles for December 2011 are at 28,916 nos., a growth of 47% over 19,699 nos., sold in December last year. Sales of the Tata Nano were 7,466 nos., higher by 29%, compared to 5,784 nos., sold in December, last year. The Indica range sales were 9,307 nos., higher by 57%, over 5,923 nos., sold in December, last year. The Indigo range recorded sales of 6,888 nos., higher by 32%, over 5,233 nos., sold in December, last year. The Sumo/ Safari/ Aria/ Venture range accounted for sales of 5,255 nos., a growth of 90%, over 2,759 nos., sold in December, last year.

Source: Tata Motors : Media : Press Releases

[nurni76]

Originally Posted by Latheesh

Tata Motors Dec-11 Sales = 29417 (28916 TATA + 501 FIAT)
Nano: 7466
Indica/Vista Range: 9307
Indigo/Manza Range: 6888
Sumo/Venture/Safari/Aria Range: 5255


The passenger vehicles business reported a total sale and distribution offtake of 29,417 nos. (28,916 Tata + 501 Fiat) in the domestic market in December 2011, higher by 47% compared to 19,973 nos. (19,699 Tata + 274 Fiat) in December last year. Sales of Tata passenger vehicles for December 2011 are at 28,916 nos., a growth of 47% over 19,699 nos., sold in December last year. Sales of the Tata Nano were 7,466 nos., higher by 29%, compared to 5,784 nos., sold in December, last year. The Indica range sales were 9,307 nos., higher by 57%, over 5,923 nos., sold in December, last year. The Indigo range recorded sales of 6,888 nos., higher by 32%, over 5,233 nos., sold in December, last year. The Sumo/ Safari/ Aria/ Venture range accounted for sales of 5,255 nos., a growth of 90%, over 2,759 nos., sold in December, last year.

Source: Tata Motors : Media : Press Releases

Wow a good month for Nano. 7.5K is a great number. As usual a dismal performance by fiat. Sales almost equal to the name of a slow selling model (fiat 500