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Originally Posted by yogeshnagpal Whats wrong with the City after the initial Spike in October ? |
The factory clearly stuffed dealer channels in October. The dealers now have excess inventory.
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Originally Posted by rangarx Hyundais never cease to amaze me. Not so good looking IMHO. Again, taste differs a lot. |
Personally, I like Hyundai's new designs, from the Eon to the Elantra.
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Originally Posted by Driving_Nomad Although the numbers look really funny, it has to be noted that the Car that has been and is sweeping sales is still a petrol one! |
Main reason being, there still isn't an entry level diesel car. Tata has a huge opportunity with the Nano diesel, before the competition catches up.
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Originally Posted by hemanth.anand I feel that this split will be closely watched and hence I have a suggestion here. |
Will surely do as & when we get the said data from all manufacturers.
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The sudden rise in the sales figures for Kizashi shows what a mess Maruti made of the one oppurtunity they had to crack the higher end segment. This car, built in India with a price tag that could compete with a Civic would have been well received by the market.
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Sorry, but what Sonata Jinx? A big sedan is bought by 3 kinds of people IMO- the chaffeur driven, people with minimal running but wanting a prestige car and the enthusiasts. Without a diesel option, and with a backseat that is strictly optimised for two people- it doesn't make sense to the first category, the hyundai badge doesn't appeal to the second list of people. The lacklustre performance for such a high-spec engine along with poor dynamics wont make it appealing to the third lot.
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Actually, the Sonata's failure has nothing to do with the rear seat being optimised for 2. Comfort is on par with an E-Class and better than the Superb. 80% of the cars on our road have either only the driver or driver + 1 passenger. Premium customers don't care about dynamics either.
The reasons for the Sonata's failure are the badge, lack of diesel and that they didn't underprice the competition (as they did with the Elantra). Just like Maruti isn't bothered with the Kizashi, Hyundai's launching the Sonata was just to have presence in the segment. Maruti & Hyundai are both focused on the volume segments below where they are especially strong.
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I guess anyone would agree that Manza has been enjoying the reputation of being the most niggle-free car from the TATA stable.
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Nope, the most niggle-free car from Tata is the Sumo. I was actually pleasantly surprised with the stellar levels of reliability reported by owners.
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It remains to be seen if it can retain the same build/ quality as now as the production has been shifted from FIATs Ranjangoan plant to TATAs own plant (I guess Pimpri?).
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True. But with more modern competition arriving at the entry-level price points, offering far better brand value, reliability, quality & service experience, Tata is losing its USPs. The perceived lack of quality (not that Fiat's Ranjangaon plant is a benchmark in build quality) from a production move back home should be the least of their worries.
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i would also say that 1500 in the second month of launch can predict a lot about the future of this model!
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True. But it's easy for Chevy to stuff dealer channels at this point which they clearly aren't doing. Remember, this is also a new engine for them. Once the production stabilises, we'll have a clearer picture.
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Product teams have done their job well? Please! The car easily feels the most dated choice in the market now, that too in the second month of its launch.
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No doubt the Sail looks far too staid & outdated. But there's no car that is perfect, is it? Except for the design, it's one heck of an all-rounder offering great space, a lovely engine, smooth gearbox, neutral road manners and light controls (making city driving easy).
More than the looks, its Chevrolet's marketing department that can make or break the Sail.
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Pressure cooker situation at VW? They dont even seem to care much about the market!
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If they didn't, VW wouldn't hire a star manager (Arvind Saxena) from Hyundai.
VW from Germany might have decided to slow down investments in India. But that certainly doesn't mean that the VW India team doesn't "care about the market" and is drinking coffee all day. The pressure is indeed on for losing the marketshare points they had just a year back.
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I hope they can somehow survive till 2014 when they plan the full assault of models with their new dealership arrangement in place.
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The engine supplies (and profits from the same) will ensure Fiat's survival in India.
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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR Not entirely! If you want more proof - the same engine in a lighter Laura should do wonders for its sales - but the reality is far from it. |
Comparing the Superb petrol to the Laura petrol is going nowhere. It's simply not apples to apples. For one, the Laura petrol isn't even available with an AT. Second, the Laura TSI always received stepmotherly treatment and didn't even have a feature-laden top variant for much of its life.
Then, as you mentioned, the price difference to the diesel is unusually high!
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Originally Posted by sunilg33 Ford have an excellent opportunity to jump into top 5 with the Ecosport. If its priced well its definitely capable of 5k+ bookings. If they repeat fiesta they will remain at the bottom for another year at-least. |
After what they've suffered with the new Fiesta, Ford will definitely price the EcoSport well.