[RSR]

Originally Posted by mints21

There are rumors that the new Grand i10 will have an Accent badge and Hyundai is debating on how to name the new car. A source told me that the new car can be named as Grand Accent or Accent Grand

The Accent name making a comeback, either with a Grand or a Fluidic addition to it, is most welcome! After all, this is the replacement car to the Accent in India. And the Accent itself was a very successful car and played a huge role (along with the tall-boy Santro) in establishing the then unknown Hyundai brand in India.

However, Hyundai does follow an international naming policy, to avoid confusion. That's why they did not name the Grand i10 as the i15, as many expected them to. They didn't want confusion whether it was a completely different model or not. So they took a logical step of naming the car Grand i10, which it certainly is - a more spacious, extended wheelbase version of the new generation European i10.

The Verna is known as the Accent in some markets (and as the Solaris in some others), as both the old Verna and the Fluidic Verna are succeeding generations of the Accent we had in India. So they may want to avoid confusion by associating the Accent name with the Grand i10 sedan. It remains to be seen which school of thought wins the naming debate within Hyundai.

[RavenAvi]

The Grand i10 sedan caught up close by the guys at Motor Vikatan. The 2014 Santa Fe can also be seen with it.

SOURCE - Motor Vikatan's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/MotorVikatan

[rdhawan15]

Grand i10 Sedan will dent a large share of the Amaze market; hopefully it will be launched at a value-for-money pricing range for both petrol and diesel. It remains to be seen if it will pose a challenge to the Dzire.

[shankar.balan]

Hyundai will most definitely play the smart value pricing card on this car.
It looks great and having recently sat inside the I 10 Grand, I came away amazed at what they have done to a little hatch. Of course, they ought to have focussed more on safety but I guess the target segment for the Grand I 10 as of this moment, will quite happily eschew safety for price considerations.
We are in the process of acquiring a brand new I 20 and I may say here that from being biased against Hyundai vehicles in general these last few years, I have begun to swing across to being a believer now. They are very good vehicles and come loaded with features and value (depending on variant of course), at very nice prices.

[dark.knight]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

the target segment for the Grand I 10 as of this moment, will quite happily eschew safety for price considerations.
We are in the process of acquiring a brand new I 20 and I may say here that from being biased against Hyundai vehicles in general these last few years, I have begun to swing across to being a believer now. They are very good vehicles and come loaded with features and value (depending on variant of course), at very nice prices.

Glad that we're meeting in most Hyundai threads nowadays. As for your point about people favouring price against enhanced safety in India, its very true and no one understands it possibly more than Hyundai. They were the first to release a 6-airbag hatchback i20 under 6L (ex-showroom) way back in 2008, alongwith ABS, and the very first entry-sedan Verna (2011) under 10L with 6 airbags, which when we think about it now are great deals which offered much more safety than competition at a lower price. Low demand and deal-waging for mid-level models though really hurt Hyundai's ambitions of selling Euro-spec safety cars while the competition undercut them on price. Thus the by-request nature of current production of highest end cars.

I'm glad you have turned a believer in their products. Most people who hate it claim unreliability & lack of safety as a reason, the truth is that a U.S automotive reliability index CarMD on Dec 2013 ranked Hyundai as no.1 followed by Toyota. Their 10 year warranty on purchase is undisputed compared to other maintenance deals. http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...234278841.html

[mints21]

Originally Posted by rdhawan15

Grand i10 Sedan will dent a large share of the Amaze market; hopefully it will be launched at a value-for-money pricing range for both petrol and diesel. It remains to be seen if it will pose a challenge to the Dzire.

I have my serious doubt on the competitive pricing by Hyundai. We have hardly seen such a thing from them. They believe in selling cars with two strengths i.e top notch build quality and top of the line features which are mostly first in class. They set benchmarks in terms of features. It is because of this reason that they end up charging a small premium for these things resulting in the price gap of anywhere between 25-50 thousand higher than the competetiors.

Hyundai would hardly be seen as a manufacturer who would cut corners to bring the cost down. They do come with lots of variants of a particular model to ensure that they fill the gap and cater to all kinds of customers.

[rdhawan15]

Originally Posted by mints21

I have my serious doubt on the competitive pricing by Hyundai. We have hardly seen such a thing from them. They believe in selling cars with two strengths i.e top notch build quality and top of the line features which are mostly first in class. They set benchmarks in terms of features. It is because of this reason that they end up charging a small premium for these things resulting in the price gap of anywhere between 25-50 thousand higher than the competetiors.

Hyundai would hardly be seen as a manufacturer who would cut corners to bring the cost down. They do come with lots of variants of a particular model to ensure that they fill the gap and cater to all kinds of customers.

Perfect, and if they manage to better the build quality on offer with Amaze, they have a winner on hand. Identical pricing or a marginal mark-up will not deter potential buyers.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by dark.knight

I'm glad you have turned a believer in their products. Most people who hate it claim unreliability & lack of safety as a reason, the truth is that a U.S automotive reliability index CarMD on Dec 2013 ranked Hyundai as no.1 followed by Toyota. Their 10 year warranty on purchase is undisputed compared to other maintenance deals. ]

They have silently begun taking over from the Japanese the way the Japanese quietly supplanted the American and Brit manufacturers in the 1970's and 1980's, by offering solid, reliable, feature loaded, easy to maintain cars at fair prices.

[invidious]

Yes, it will be called "The Accent"

[mints21]

Originally Posted by invidious

Yes, it will be called "The Accent"

Hi, are you sure? Have you come across someone from Hyundai who mentioned this to you. We have been hearing rumours but till last Friday even Hyundai officials were not very sure about it.

[gomzi]

Originally Posted by invidious

Yes, it will be called "The Accent"

If this is true, then its a smart strategy by Hyundai. The Hyundai Accent is a strong brand in India and even these days I see a few on the Mumbai roads.

In fact I might be in the market for a small sedan later this year and if this car has a better rear suspension and steering (c'mon Hyundai even Tata does these 2 things well) they'll have my money.

[invidious]

Originally Posted by mints21

Hi, are you sure? Have you come across someone from Hyundai who mentioned this to you. We have been hearing rumours but till last Friday even Hyundai officials were not very sure about it.

Yes, I heard it from someone really high up in Hyundai. Unless they have changed their mind recently. But last month, someone who is fairly highly placed in Hyundai told me about it. I told him they should introduce the Kia Soul I hope that happens.

[volkman10]

Hyundai Grand i10-based compact sedan could be called 'Accent', and be released prior to the Auto expo!

The Grand i10-based compact sedan is the Accent’s replacement here. Expect the 1.2 liter Kappa petrol engine and the 1.1 liter-3 cylinder turbo diesel engine to be shoehorned into the compact sedan

http://www.cartoq.com/cartoq-source-...ed-the-accent/

[extreme_torque]

They should atleast put the 1.4 crdi engine instead of 1.1 liter diesel which me thinks is a little too small for the application.

[zenren]

Originally Posted by extreme_torque

They should atleast put the 1.4 crdi engine instead of 1.1 liter diesel which me thinks is a little too small for the application.

Wouldn't the 1.4 engine be costlier than the 1.1 even if both are eligible for tax benefits?

I do agree that they should consider 1.4 if they don't achieve considerable savings by using the 1.1L, since Dzire is 1.3L and Amaze is 1.5L.

Best bet for them would be to give 1.1L for the base variants and introduce a 1.4L engine at least for the fully loaded top variant. They did this with the 1.1/1.2 Kappa for the i10.