Bike seized as it was modified. What does this mean for the modifiers out there?

flipsyde · 6th September 2007, 12:12

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Originally Posted by reignofchaos

Well this gets stranger and stranger... my Cedia Sports has the details of the spirit/select in the RC book even though its named Sports.

The Sport weighs 1225kg and the select weighs 1210kg. The sports has a length of 4595mm vs the select which is 4480mm. All the details in my RC refer to the select's specs.

Does that mean mitsu is selling a modified and illegal car from factory?

i think its time you got this clarified by mitsu pal! not that you'l get into any trouble but i sure think you should know why the specs of the car don't match the ones printed on the RC book.

mclaren1885 · 6th September 2007, 12:15

I know of people whose RC books read 993cc for the Engine Capacity of a Kinetic Honda and 0 bhp too. RTO guys make a lot of errors on RC books, I have seen atleast 5 cases of wrong figures.

adman77 · 6th September 2007, 12:20

What about after market turbo, NOS, bigger pistons etc etc? Now I think these are illegal too. Once I got caught for my free flow. When I told the cop that it's a race car and it's modified for rallies (flashed my MAI license

) he told me to get it changed and endorsed in my RC book by RTO and it'll only cost some 1000 bucks through agents.

anupmathur · 6th September 2007, 12:22

Thank God I'm not so rich! Never could AFFORD to have any 'mods' done on my cars; not that any of the DC designs ever tempted me. And looking at the 'mods' convinced me that 'grotesque' would be the only outcome, apart from a 'virgin' from the showroom being mercilessly 'violated'. The only 'mod' that ever tempted me is a sunroof, but the good lord has kept me away evn from that.

Jomz · 6th September 2007, 12:26

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Originally Posted by reignofchaos

Well this gets stranger and stranger... my Cedia Sports has the details of the spirit/select in the RC book even though its named Sports.

The Sport weighs 1225kg and the select weighs 1210kg. The sports has a length of 4595mm vs the select which is 4480mm. All the details in my RC refer to the select's specs.

Does that mean mitsu is selling a modified and illegal car from factory?

I believe that your dealer goofed up. He fills up the form for the RC book.
He must have put in the values foe Spirit/ Select

Tough time correcting it.... and when you go for resale somebodyy might think that it is a select/spirit with a bodykit, Unless you weigh that and show it to him

sabret00the · 6th September 2007, 16:29

wow I was not aware of this fact...I'm pretty much tensed as my bike is modified...however it's mostly cosmetic...

srishiva · 6th September 2007, 16:48

RC book also says that changing unladen weight (alloy wheels ?) should be notified.

anupmathur · 6th September 2007, 18:32

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Originally Posted by srishiva

..changing unladen weight (alloy wheels ?) should be notified.

Weight having reduced, a couple bricks under the seats should do the trick!!

DileepKS · 7th September 2007, 11:01

Well, some mods will make you feel that RTO should impound that vehicle!

It is in our injun nature to make complicated rules, and to use them to the whim/fancy/advantage of the enforcer. Some are pretty ridiculous too.

RTO/MVI/Police will bother you only if either the mod is outrageous, or YOU BEHAVE outrageous.

anandpadhye · 7th September 2007, 11:37

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Originally Posted by sandeep108

This has led to lot of problems for the 'speed runs' held by autocar and others. Actually at times in Mumbai if they are in nasty mood, they will catch you for free flow also.

Why not?

I see nothing wrong with what RTO is doing.

Free flow means the guy has taken the catalytic convertor out.

Thant's not only anti-environment but also against the rule of the land.

Why do people think that they have a previledge to harm the environment just because they have some odd passion or a lot of money?

adman77 · 7th September 2007, 11:49

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Originally Posted by anandpadhye

Why do people think that they have a previledge to harm the environment just because they have some odd passion?

Modding cars??? Odd passion???

DileepKS · 7th September 2007, 11:55

Sure odd for most of the general population.

Why complain? You take the pains and spend the money to do the mods. Just spend a little bit more to get it endorsed by RTO. Simple onlee!!

Bullfrog · 7th September 2007, 12:12

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Originally Posted by adman77

Modding cars??? Odd passion???

Yes it is. Very very large percentage of cars are run stock by the buyers. Also a lot of rules are in place for a valid reason prime among them being the one of pollution control.

Maybe not a popular opinion to be expressed in an auto enthusiast forum like this one but it is a very valid one.

prskumar · 7th September 2007, 12:45

My zen has steel wheel with tubed tyres. If I change to alloy wheel with tubeless tyres, should I get authorization from RTO?

anupmathur · 7th September 2007, 13:20

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Originally Posted by adman77

Modding cars??? Odd passion???

Not just odd, but highly irresponsible, IF you think you have the prerogative to remove catalytic converters!

6th September 2007, 12:15	#32
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	I know of people whose RC books read 993cc for the Engine Capacity of a Kinetic Honda and 0 bhp too. RTO guys make a lot of errors on RC books, I have seen atleast 5 cases of wrong figures.
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6th September 2007, 12:20	#33
adman77 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 383 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	What about after market turbo, NOS, bigger pistons etc etc? Now I think these are illegal too. Once I got caught for my free flow. When I told the cop that it's a race car and it's modified for rallies (flashed my MAI license ) he told me to get it changed and endorsed in my RC book by RTO and it'll only cost some 1000 bucks through agents.
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6th September 2007, 12:22	#34
anupmathur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 3,095 Thanked: 307 Times	Thank God I'm not so rich! Never could AFFORD to have any 'mods' done on my cars; not that any of the DC designs ever tempted me. And looking at the 'mods' convinced me that 'grotesque' would be the only outcome, apart from a 'virgin' from the showroom being mercilessly 'violated'. The only 'mod' that ever tempted me is a sunroof, but the good lord has kept me away evn from that.
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6th September 2007, 16:29	#36
sabret00the BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: YYC \| BLR \| CCU Posts: 692 Thanked: 55 Times View My Garage	wow I was not aware of this fact...I'm pretty much tensed as my bike is modified...however it's mostly cosmetic...
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6th September 2007, 16:48	#37
srishiva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,375 Thanked: 2,256 Times	RC book also says that changing unladen weight (alloy wheels ?) should be notified.
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7th September 2007, 11:01	#39
DileepKS BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 137 Thanked: 8 Times	Well, some mods will make you feel that RTO should impound that vehicle! It is in our injun nature to make complicated rules, and to use them to the whim/fancy/advantage of the enforcer. Some are pretty ridiculous too. RTO/MVI/Police will bother you only if either the mod is outrageous, or YOU BEHAVE outrageous.
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7th September 2007, 11:55	#42
DileepKS BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 137 Thanked: 8 Times	Sure odd for most of the general population. Why complain? You take the pains and spend the money to do the mods. Just spend a little bit more to get it endorsed by RTO. Simple onlee!!
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7th September 2007, 12:45	#44
prskumar BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 139 Thanked: 2 Times	My zen has steel wheel with tubed tyres. If I change to alloy wheel with tubeless tyres, should I get authorization from RTO?
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