Originally Posted by Vid6639
(Post 3908306)
What I didn't understand with Fiat is why they didn't show some interesting concepts. Even if these cars were a few years away or not slated for launch. The idea is to draw crowds and generate interest as well as get people to see what the brand is capable of. All they had to do was import 2 cars, the Fiat 500X compact crossover, and the new Tipo/Egea sedan. These 2 cars alone would have done wonders to the brand and got people excited. Heck Chevy parked the Camaro and Corvette and that did wonders for them. Hyundai had 3 cars, the i30, Sonata and SQ90 which are easily a few years down or won't even make it but they still parked them their to draw crowd. |
Originally Posted by nkrishnap
(Post 3908354)
It would be better if they had not participated at all. Only saving grace was the Grand Cherokee and Wrangler. |
Originally Posted by S2!!!
(Post 3905054)
Fiat showcased the Linea 125s |
Originally Posted by vpillai
(Post 3915885)
Any news on the expected price and when it will be available in the showrooms? |
Originally Posted by S2!!!
(Post 3905054)
Fiat showcased the Linea 125s: |
Originally Posted by prokinetic
(Post 3944131)
They say it will come later this year, but which month? Expected price should be 10 lacs ex showroom. Anyways, this is a welcome launch as this is something which will actually hit the roads and be the most powerful in its segment. One more color option should be offered though. |
Originally Posted by vpillai
(Post 3945670)
Exactly, this is a welcome move. Enthusiasts, I invite your attention here for a minute. I have been comparing the tech specs of VW Jetta 1.4L TSI against that of Linea 125s the other day, and was surprised to see the power to weight ratio and other similarities. Linea 125s: 1. Power to weight ratio : 97.77 2. Torque to weight ratio : 166.93 3. Tyres : 205 / 55 R16 4. Rear Disc Brakes (IMO its worth a mention since no other car in the segment has this) VW Jetta 1.4L TSI 1. Power to weight ratio : 88.62 2. Torque to weight ratio : 147.71 3. Tyres : 205 / 55 R16 4. Rear Disc Brakes On the safety side I can see only ESP and the 6 airbags missing in Linea 125s, which I can live with. On the performance front, I would not say Linea 125s beats Jetta (since it's a direct injection motor). But I could say it comes almost equivalent, considering the power to weight & torque to weight ratios. Ride quality & Driving dynamics: I'm sure Linea will not fall behind in this area as well. Now why would anybody want to buy a Jetta over Linea 125s, if its not for luxuary ?!! |
Originally Posted by vpillai
(Post 3945670)
Exactly, this is a welcome move. Enthusiasts, I invite your attention here for a minute. I have been comparing the tech specs of VW Jetta 1.4L TSI against that of Linea 125s the other day, and was surprised to see the power to weight ratio and other similarities. On the safety side I can see only ESP and the 6 airbags missing in Linea 125s, which I can live with. On the performance front, I would not say Linea 125s beats Jetta (since it's a direct injection motor). But I could say it comes almost equivalent, considering the power to weight & torque to weight ratios. Ride quality & Driving dynamics: I'm sure Linea will not fall behind in this area as well. Now why would anybody want to buy a Jetta over Linea 125s, if its not for luxuary ?!! |
Originally Posted by nkrishnap
(Post 3945709)
The Linea 125S price point would be much lower than the Jetta where the Trendline costs INR 14.4 lakhs and Comfortline costs INR 15.95 Lakhs ex showroom. In all probability the Linea 125S would cost less than 14 lakhs on road Bangalore, but you do lose on the space, much better fit & finish and a few more features. Not to forget Jetta belongs to a higher segment. I dont think there will be any cross shopping here. Linea is way too old in the current market, so not sure why Fiat is :deadhorse |
Originally Posted by vpillai
(Post 3945670)
Exactly, this is a welcome move. Enthusiasts, I invite your attention here for a minute. I have been comparing the tech specs of VW Jetta 1.4L TSI against that of Linea 125s the other day, and was surprised to see the power to weight ratio and other similarities. On the performance front, I would not say Linea 125s beats Jetta (since it's a direct injection motor). But I could say it comes almost equivalent, considering the power to weight & torque to weight ratios. Ride quality & Driving dynamics: I'm sure Linea will not fall behind in this area as well. Now why would anybody want to buy a Jetta over Linea 125s, if its not for luxuary ?!! |
Originally Posted by blackwasp
(Post 3945896)
I think we should start classifying Fiat as a niche and enthusiast car maker. While I will definitely not recommend Fiats to anyone expecting a fuss free ownership, I have personally gone to Pune to book one. We should instead be thankful to Maruti for buying Fiat engines. The engine business not only allows the FCA to earn money but also allows it to introduce car models that other manufacturers won't even think about eg Swift Sport. Agreed about the abysmal dealer network and lack of service centres, but after seeing their monthly car sales I'm thankful that they haven't shut shop! In today's mass market appeal vehicles, Fiats tend to stand out and for that I think we should appreciate Fiat. |
Originally Posted by blackwasp
(Post 3945896)
I think we should start classifying Fiat as a niche and enthusiast car maker. In today's mass market appeal vehicles, Fiats tend to stand out and for that I think we should appreciate Fiat. |
Originally Posted by keroo1099
(Post 3945906)
You can call it whatever you want but at the end of the day it has to be profitable for the dealer to survive. No dealers means no sales even if you want the car unless Fiat starts 'factory direct' sales. |
Originally Posted by Viju
(Post 3945931)
Fiat is a mass-market brand - globally, not just in India. They have been relegated to a niche brand because they failed to sell volumes in India. It is not out of choice. but if they have to survive in India in the long-term, they have to sell something other than engines to MSIL & TML, and a few hundred cars a month to the enthusiast crowd. |
Originally Posted by blackwasp
(Post 3946115)
Let's hope the crash test norms give a boost to Fiat sales when they will be enforced. |
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