[Carma2017]

Originally Posted by GTO

You got to be kidding. My brother's Jetta nearing 40,000 km has offered a flawless ownership experience. Ajmat's Jetta has crossed 50,000 km and has been super reliable.

The Jetta has simple, robust mechanicals and minimal electronics.

Like I said, owners of the Jetta have not complained much in India, at least among the people I know. But, it's reputation for unreliability for the international versions is a 100% truth.
Then again the reputation that I refer to is primarily US based where the expectations of a car are much higher.
Among VW people I know, the joke was that if they had to make a Dzire out of Swift , then the Jetta would be the outcome after a "boot" surgery on a beautiful and hot selling Golf, which incidentally has a reputation for super-reliability.

Good or Bad, it does not matter. RIP Jetta.

[Tanveer_2558]

I have 34,000 kms on the ODO and man it has been such an amazing journey with my Jetta, The Multilink suspension + 2 TDI Engine + Silky Smooth MT Gearbox + Solid Built quality = Win Win, Love How this car has dual nature, Can be a tourer anytime and can switch to a complete highway beast when you want it to, No matter how much you rev it on the highways it still manages to give you 12 + Average! I don't care about how much she gulps in but is surely an added advantage, Add to that i have never topped up any fluid till date, Just did the usual servicing on time and i have never had any issues except a minor wiring issue, Buying this car has made my upgrade decision just very difficult! Specially after the remap now, I am sad to know the newer version won't make it here, Wonder what's VW planning? Even though it did not sell in big numbers but it least completed the offerings for VW here.

[Epic]

I am probably one of the few lucky ones to have picked up my Jetta in the nick of time. I was looking to purchase a new Jetta last year end and got to know that the model is being discontinued. I was in two minds whether to spend 25 big ones of a new car which is in the process of getting discontinued or go for the Octavia. Test drove both cars and the Jetta was the clear winner in terms of driving pleasure. The decision to make now was whether it was worth spending on an out going car.

As luck would have it, in September 2016, I came across a 2015 Jetta TDI Highline AT with just 17k kms on the odo and warranty till Feb 2017. Picked it up for 17 lakhs, purchased the extended warranty till 2019 and I thank my stars every time I drive this beauty.

[Tanveer_2558]

Originally Posted by Epic

As luck would have it, in September 2016, I came across a 2015 Jetta TDI Highline AT with just 17k kms on the odo and warranty till Feb 2017. Picked it up for 17 lakhs, purchased the extended warranty till 2019 and I thank my stars every time I drive this beauty.

That's surely some luck, I haven't seen a 20k less driven jetta yet in the used car market, Most of them being 35k + kms run, A friend of mine recently drove my remapped jetta and he loved it soo much that he decided to get one too, We are finding a hardly used MT version for him, But most of the jetta's have done 50k kms more, Not that its a negative but he wants one hardly used, Just like you got yours

[Epic]

Originally Posted by Tanveer_2558

That's surely some luck, I haven't seen a 20k less driven jetta yet in the used car market, Most of them being 35k + kms run, A friend of mine recently drove my remapped jetta and he loved it soo much that he decided to get one too, We are finding a hardly used MT version for him, But most of the jetta's have done 50k kms more, Not that its a negative but he wants one hardly used, Just like you got yours

The car I bought was previously owned by Volkswagen Group Sales India Pvt. Ltd. It was one of those cars they give to the press to be used as test drive vehicles for reviews. I confirmed this as I came across this video on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD-r2Ig9hvA

that shows this Jetta (my car) being reviewed by ZigWheels The car was later being used by a senior executive at their Chakan plant.

So for me it was truly a lucky find.

[csr9]

Sad to see the Jetta being discontinued. The Jetta, along with the Skoda Laura are my favourites in the D segment. With manufacturers making their cars lighter for better efficiency/lower emissions, the newer generations don't feel as solid as the preceding ones. The best example is the Skoda Octavia, which doesn't feel as solid as the Laura. At the same time, I don't mean to say the Octavia isn't well put together.

[vishy76]

Volkswagen has revealed what could very well be the Jetta's successor. Its an SUV (just as expected) and shall compete with the XUV 500 and Creta head on and also eat into the already weak sedan segment.



As far as it has these things, I am not worried:

-Solid build quality or the over engineered feel that the Jetta has (Won't be possible with the MQB platform which is of course lighter)

-2.0 TDI in the higher state of tune (should be available)

-Multi-link suspension and excellent driving dynamics (highly doubtful as Skoda is currently offering it only on the 1.8 variants of the Octavia)

-1.8 TSI for enthusiasts

-Pricing in the ballpark of 16-22 lakhs

-It could be based on the polo platform

If these traits are carried over from the Jetta to the mini-SUV then maybe Vento owners can look at it as an upgrade and even current Jetta owners (including me) might consider it.

[Epic]

Originally Posted by csr9

With manufacturers making their cars lighter for better efficiency/lower emissions, the newer generations don't feel as solid as the preceding ones. The best example is the Skoda Octavia, which doesn't feel as solid as the Laura. At the same time, I don't mean to say the Octavia isn't well put together.

What you have said is absolutely right. While deciding between the Jetta and the Octavia, the Jetta was the clear winner in terms of driving dynamics and handling which the Octavia lost on only because of the MQB platform. Even our new 2016 Skoda Superb which replaced our 2011 Skoda Superb does not have that robust feel like our older model did.

Originally Posted by vishy76

Volkswagen has revealed what could very well be the Jetta's successor. Its an SUV (just as expected) and shall compete with the XUV 500 and Creta head on and also eat into the already weak sedan segment.

I am not sure how good this strategy is. So VWs line up with be:

Polo ~ 11 lakhs
Vento (2017) ~ 18 lakhs
T-Cross ~ 25 lakhs
Passat ~ 40 lakhs

They are probably upgrading the Vento to sort of match the Jetta.

Originally Posted by vishy76

If these traits are carried over from the Jetta to the mini-SUV then maybe Vento owners can look at it as an upgrade and even current Jetta owners (including me) might consider it.

I would personally prefer the current sedan styled Jetta over the 'mini SUV' T-Cross. An executive sedan has a different and classy look over any 'mini SUV'.

[vishy76]

Originally Posted by Epic

I would personally prefer the current sedan styled Jetta over the 'mini SUV' T-Cross. An executive sedan has a different and classy look over any 'mini SUV'.

I would agree with you any day sir. The Jetta is definitely one of the most well proportioned cars in the market, we have a Jetta ourselves and I can't help but look back at it each time it is parked.

But, as I have mentioned, the Indian car scene now prefers SUVs to sedans. Had this not been the case, the Jetta, Altis and Cruze would have seen much better numbers. It's just that Indians now associate SUVs to be more premium than similarly priced hatchbacks or even sedans, something that is still beyond me. I would prefer a sedan to an SUV or the crossover (as the tiguan appears to be) anyday for the handling.

I can bet that the Vento will never match the Jetta. Apart from lacking in features and brand image (both required in this segment) along with competent engines, the Vento is 7 years old now and also has a host of reliability issues with the ill-famed 7 speed DSG.

I also agree to the fact that cars are getting lighter generation by generation all thanks to fuel efficency and cost cutting by manufacturers.

If I were given 5-6 odd lakhs after 4 years and told to choose between a brand new hatchback and a used Jetta, you know what my choice would be..


Regards,
vishy76

[heydj]

Sad day to see such great car production stopped. Now only option left in this price range is Octavia.

[Epic]

Originally Posted by vishy76

I would agree with you any day sir. The Jetta is definitely one of the most well proportioned cars in the market, we have a Jetta ourselves and I can't help but look back at it each time it is parked.

Same here

Originally Posted by vishy76

But, as I have mentioned, the Indian car scene now prefers SUVs to sedans. Had this not been the case, the Jetta, Altis and Cruze would have seen much better numbers. It's just that Indians now associate SUVs to be more premium than similarly priced hatchbacks or even sedans, something that is still beyond me. I would prefer a sedan to an SUV or the crossover (as the tiguan appears to be) anyday for the handling.

The problem is that companies are making cross overs and making the Indian buyer 'believe' that they are driving SUVs. Worst of all, Indian buyers are falling for it. Is the Renault Duster, Ford Ecosport, Nissan Terrano, Vitara Grand, etc SUVs? Hell no!! I own a Skoda Yeti, is it an SUV? Not at all!!

To me I wouldn't call a car an SUV because it is shaped like one and has 4WD; it must have the the space, engine capacity and ground clearance to go along with it. To me the real SUVs are the Lexus LX470, Merc ML/GL, Range Rover and the likes.

Originally Posted by vishy76

I can bet that the Vento will never match the Jetta. Apart from lacking in features and brand image (both required in this segment) along with competent engines, the Vento is 7 years old now and also has a host of reliability issues with the ill-famed 7 speed DSG.

Well if you look at the Vento, its dimensions almost match that of the Jetta. In terms of features too, it is almost there. I will not be surprised if they add some more in the 2017 Vento. It is already supossed to have LED headlights with DRLs. And that is definitely not going to come in 15 lakhs.

[lurker]

regarding SUV's, one definite advantage on Indian roads is to sit high up and look straight ahead or slightly lower at the road rather than sit in a low slung sedan and look up all the time.

[aamateen46]

Regarding VW group's strategic shift to MQB platform for newer, mainstream models, why is it not considered good progress?
For instance, shouldn't an Octavia on MQB be better than the previous models?
I fail to understand why VW decided not to migrate Jetta to the MQB platform. Small sales volume may not be the reason, i feel.

[Epic]

Originally Posted by aamateen46

Regarding VW group's strategic shift to MQB platform for newer, mainstream models, why is it not considered good progress?
For instance, shouldn't an Octavia on MQB be better than the previous models?
I fail to understand why VW decided not to migrate Jetta to the MQB platform. Small sales volume may not be the reason, i feel.

VW has moved the new 2017 Jetta to the MQB platform. It is just that this model will not make it to India as the price will touch (maybe cross) 30 lakhs.

[Tanveer_2558]

Originally Posted by Epic

VW has moved the new 2017 Jetta to the MQB platform. It is just that this model will not make it to India as the price will touch (maybe cross) 30 lakhs.

Just curious if Skoda could do it with the Octavia with MQB why can't VW with the Jetta ? Or is there some other things involved which probably i am not aware of.