FIAT Palio : Facelift with new engine options

Mpower · 15th December 2006, 20:46

I believe they should leave the Palio alone looks wise, give it the 1.1 liter engine.

THe Sienna should get new ext as well as new interior so that it can compete effectively with NHC, Aveo etc.

Giving the same front look to both cars is not good for marketing.

maxbhp · 16th December 2006, 00:06

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Originally Posted by kvish

I have driven the 1.1 L palio fire for almost a year and trust me, it is good...the pickup is much better than the palio 1.2..and ofcourse the sweet engine sound remains.... My only crib is that they left the interiors the same.... I think that kills the car even before launch...
unless they really have a (killer)x2 price tag...

I think the initial topic 'palio no more' is heading more and more into certainity....

In india ? As far as I know the 3 new gen. Petrol engines are 999 cc Fire in Uno , 1.2 & 1.6 , Where did u drive this ? and if you can post a more detailed report. We are really waiting to hear from you.

Palio_2005 · 16th December 2006, 12:47

[quote=prakashc;338753]Hey - These are rumors..Fiat has invested heavily and their cars may be low on mileage but are ergonomically sound and very secure...

I would not agree to low on mileage comment. My 1.2 Liter consistently returns 11-12 kpl in Pune with 100 % A/C and about 17 kpl on the hiway (80-90 kph). The 1.6 L is about 10 kpl. I don't think that these figures are low.

fight_club · 17th December 2006, 00:58

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My 1.2 Liter consistently returns 11-12 kpl in Pune with 100 % A/C and about 17 kpl on the hiway (80-90 kph). The 1.6 L is about 10 kpl. I don't think that these figures are low.

but public perception is, i again think the new fiat will be met with limited success.

sajo · 3rd January 2007, 16:34

I saw the new Palio yesterday. And somehow, it seemed that it was struggling to keep up with....wait for it...an Estilo!
(Go ahead, flame me

).

sreenivass · 3rd January 2007, 17:06

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Originally Posted by sajo

I saw the new Palio yesterday. And somehow, it seemed that it was struggling to keep up with....wait for it...an Estilo!
(Go ahead, flame me

).

Very much possible with Palio's weight. Hopefully new Palio went through some weight reduction exercises, otherwise ???

I heard similar things about Siena 1.2, for a car weighing over a tonne 1.2L engine was a weak link.

DCEite · 3rd January 2007, 18:11

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Originally Posted by sajo

I saw the new Palio yesterday. And somehow, it seemed that it was struggling to keep up with....wait for it...an Estilo!
(Go ahead, flame me

).

Not surprising at all.
New Palio's engine is 1.1 L and so is Zen Estilo. Power to weight ratio of Estilo is more than Palio. So where is the doubt?
Infact, even the 1.2 L Palio was not a match for Maruti's 1.1 L engine.

finneyp · 3rd January 2007, 19:39

Too early to pass comments on the facelifted Palio with a new 1.1 Fire engine!

Letz wait for the launch and let one of us Test drive the Car and then pass judgements here!

DCEite · 3rd January 2007, 19:55

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Originally Posted by finneyp

Too early to pass comments on the facelifted Palio with a new 1.1 Fire engine!

Letz wait for the launch and let one of us Test drive the Car and then pass judgements here!

The engine surely has to live up to its name ! It has to "fire" on all cylinders !
Otherwise it will make the big tank more sluggish !!

Mpower · 3rd January 2007, 20:11

F.I.R.E = Fully Integrated Robotised Engine, referes to the level of automation in the plant in Italy that builds it, probably not even valid if it were assembled in India.

sreenivass · 3rd January 2007, 21:00

seems like its going to be 54 BHP/ 910 Kgs per Auto Car India with 9 KGM torque. Improvement in low rev torque for better city drive, sounds like Fiat is going the Tata way (http://www.autocarindia.com/new/Info...n.asp?id=1559), I wish this is not true...

Rodeo · 3rd January 2007, 21:44

Why the hell are they not turbo charging the Diesel engine. Tata is charging 20k extra its turbo charge engine. Just imagine a turbo charge palio diesel with 90BHP costing only 20k more... it can do wonders to the sales...

hellspawn · 3rd January 2007, 21:51

came back from vivek automobiles,delhi today after giving my siena for servicing.got to know that the 1.6 petrol engine will be discontinued in the palio but will be available in the grande punto when its launched.

sreenivass · 4th January 2007, 00:04

May be as per TATA-FIAT agreement Fiat is driven by what TATA says in Palio segment. Its like the soul of the vehicle is gone, only body left.

sids911 · 4th January 2007, 15:32

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Originally Posted by hellspawn

came back from vivek automobiles,delhi today after giving my siena for servicing.got to know that the 1.6 petrol engine will be discontinued in the palio but will be available in the grande punto when its launched.

I got an E-mail from Fiat saying that Palio 1.6 will continue from the Ranjangaon plant.

They wouldnt tell if it would come in new avatar tho. I am only hoping we get this stonking motor in the same model which is sold in South America right now.

15th December 2006, 20:46	#31
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	I believe they should leave the Palio alone looks wise, give it the 1.1 liter engine. THe Sienna should get new ext as well as new interior so that it can compete effectively with NHC, Aveo etc. Giving the same front look to both cars is not good for marketing.
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16th December 2006, 12:47	#33
Palio_2005 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 991 Thanked: 878 Times	[quote=prakashc;338753]Hey - These are rumors..Fiat has invested heavily and their cars may be low on mileage but are ergonomically sound and very secure... I would not agree to low on mileage comment. My 1.2 Liter consistently returns 11-12 kpl in Pune with 100 % A/C and about 17 kpl on the hiway (80-90 kph). The 1.6 L is about 10 kpl. I don't think that these figures are low.
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3rd January 2007, 16:34	#35
sajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,625 Thanked: 1,153 Times	I saw the new Palio yesterday. And somehow, it seemed that it was struggling to keep up with....wait for it...an Estilo! (Go ahead, flame me ).
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3rd January 2007, 19:39	#38
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	Too early to pass comments on the facelifted Palio with a new 1.1 Fire engine! Letz wait for the launch and let one of us Test drive the Car and then pass judgements here!
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3rd January 2007, 20:11	#40
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	F.I.R.E = Fully Integrated Robotised Engine, referes to the level of automation in the plant in Italy that builds it, probably not even valid if it were assembled in India.
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3rd January 2007, 21:00	#41
sreenivass BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore India Posts: 932 Thanked: 44 Times View My Garage	seems like its going to be 54 BHP/ 910 Kgs per Auto Car India with 9 KGM torque. Improvement in low rev torque for better city drive, sounds like Fiat is going the Tata way (http://www.autocarindia.com/new/Info...n.asp?id=1559), I wish this is not true...
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3rd January 2007, 21:44	#42
Rodeo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 356 Thanked: 28 Times	Why the hell are they not turbo charging the Diesel engine. Tata is charging 20k extra its turbo charge engine. Just imagine a turbo charge palio diesel with 90BHP costing only 20k more... it can do wonders to the sales...
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3rd January 2007, 21:51	#43
hellspawn Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: noida Posts: 1,686 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	came back from vivek automobiles,delhi today after giving my siena for servicing.got to know that the 1.6 petrol engine will be discontinued in the palio but will be available in the grande punto when its launched.
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4th January 2007, 00:04	#44
sreenivass BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore India Posts: 932 Thanked: 44 Times View My Garage	May be as per TATA-FIAT agreement Fiat is driven by what TATA says in Palio segment. Its like the soul of the vehicle is gone, only body left.
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