[rohitsaxena]

Anyone got BH number in Uttar Pradesh for a vehicle purchased from other state with temporary registration?

[rohitsaxena]

Originally Posted by banana

Please feed my curiosity

Yes, it is not only eligible for RTI, but also for consumer court, for taking this to consumer court one need to buy a vehicle and then file a consumer redressal case. I have filed a detailed RTI with questions/cross questions, in total there were 17 questions just to ask the reason why private companies employees are not eligible. I am still waiting for their response, and in the mean time met transport commissioner as well, going to meet him once again this week.

[Aviator_guy]

As I understand there are certain restrictions about eligibility for BH registration. I want to get clarity about a few things.
1. If a pvt company employee gets BH vehicle and he changes employment later, will there be any implications?
Say, if new employer doesn't meet guidelines of offices in multiple states, does it create any issue (in vehicle usage or payment of road tax since it has to be paid every few yrs).

2.Are there any guidelines or insights about what would happen at the time of resale of BH vehicle? Can the vehicle be sold to anyone and in any state? What would the procedure be like?

Thanks in advance.

[banana]

Originally Posted by Aviator_guy

As I understand there are certain restrictions about eligibility for BH registration. I want to get clarity about a few things.

1. -> Consider this like health insurance that requires initial health check. The issue people are dealing with is that even though they meet the criteria, their applications are not being accepted. Following issues have been seen so far on the social media, the list may not include all scenarios, but some are

• States have not started following new scheme
• State have selected only one part of the eligible population for the scheme.
• States are not calculating tax correctly

2. -> As this started on 15 Sept in Odisha, I guess, we have some time before the first person who applied for BH series registration starts to "worry" about changing the vehicle bought for personal use (unless there are some serious quality issues). I'm not saying that it is any less of an issue, just that I would worry about carrier choices of my yet to be born children after they are born [PS: don't start thinking about me or my family and, please don't come with an omni ].

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by banana

I guess, we have some time before the first person who applied for BH series registration starts to "worry" about changing the vehicle bought for personal use (unless there are some serious quality issues)

I hope not, however if there are indeed restrictions at the time of sale, I don't want to be stuck with BH series vehicle, even if this scenario may occur few years down the line. Going by how authorities are trying to create barriers rather than trying to simplify common man's life, I don't feel confident enough to take the plunge just yet, at least not without knowing full repercussions of BH series.

[rohitsaxena]

Originally Posted by nighthawk117

After two weeks of discussion & follow-ups with dealer & occasionally with RTO, i was able to get BH series registration from Noida RTO. Although government notification states the requirement of Form-60 alone, different states are asking different documentations it seems. Like Sauravm, i was also asked to produce the GST Certificate, which no company would just share with its employees. But in the end, i had to give ID card, salary slip, Form-60 on company letter head along with the address of four offices. GST number was not there in the letterhead but it is possible to get it online if needed.

I need your help, you said that you got your vehicle registered in Noida RTO under BH series, but my friend inquired there and they are denying that it is not being issued to private employees. Could you share some info so that he can cite your case and try to push for his BH? Your vehicle registration number should help.

Originally Posted by Aviator_guy

I hope not, however if there are indeed restrictions at the time of sale, I don't want to be stuck with BH series vehicle, even if this scenario may occur few years down the line. Going by how authorities are trying to create barriers rather than trying to simplify common man's life, I don't feel confident enough to take the plunge just yet, at least not without knowing full repercussions of BH series.

I think instead of worrying over BH numbered vehicle's resale, instead we should expect that these vehicles will fetch premium during resale. I have already thought of and drafting an RTI for MoRTH to issue clear guidelines for resale of such vehicles. Considering all drama around this series, I want to take all proactive measures.

[RaviKBobba]

Private employees are not considered as the Vote bank, hence this ignorance by the Govt of KA.

[texens]

Originally Posted by nighthawk117

After two weeks of discussion & follow-ups with dealer & occasionally with RTO, i was able to get BH series registration from Noida RTO.

Thanks for the update nighthawk117. Could you please share as to how did they calculate the BH registration amount? Did they calculate on the ex-showroom price (which includes GST as well), or did they exclude the GST?

[UPC7955]

As per the Gazette notification, registration and road tax is to be without GST. Is the same being implemented? That remains to be seen.

[nairanupg]

I am Sorry, i may be an idiot, but i just cant seem to get my head around the calculations here. Can somebody help ?
I have booked a Safari XZA with an ex showroom price of Rs. 2110900/- in Ahmedabad, and i want to get a BH number plate on the thing.
What shall be the Tax payable ?

[Chetan_Rao]

Doesn't gatekeeping eligibility criteria beat the purpose of the thing to begin with?

Make it an option available to everyone, and let them choose between 'cheaper' 15-year state-specific registration with complicated inter-state transfers, or expensive BH registration transferable nationwide with minimal paperwork.

This whole 'eligibility' circus is a perfect example of a good idea on paper becoming a nightmare in reality.

[LordSpymaster]

Hey,

Does anyone have any insight into the BH availability in Haryana? I plan to buy a car this year but waiting on this plate being allowed here in Gurgaon.

[dust-n-bones]

Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao

Doesn't gatekeeping eligibility criteria beat the purpose of the thing to begin with?

Completely agree. Rather than give the option to all road tax payers of choosing between a) a 2 yr recurring tax with flexibility of movement or b) one time upfront tax with some concession, the govt instead thinks up a complicated scheme with many loose ends which are open to interpretation.

We know how it ends when its open to interpretation, and discriminatory based on a public officer's whims.

[sagarpadaki]

The problem in our country with providing the option of 2 year road tax is many people will not renew the road tax when due and continue plying the vehicles. See how many vehicles on our roads ply with expired insurance and one can get an idea.

[banana]

Originally Posted by nairanupg

I am Sorry, i may be an idiot, but i just cant seem to get my head around the calculations here. Can somebody help ?
I have booked a Safari XZA with an ex showroom price of Rs. 2110900/- in Ahmedabad, and i want to get a BH number plate on the thing.
What shall be the Tax payable ?

You can call your SA to give breakdown of the ex showroom price. Then you can use the table in the official notification (also available all across the interwebs).

Originally Posted by dust-n-bones

Completely agree. Rather than give the option to all road tax payers of choosing between a) a 2 yr recurring tax with flexibility of movement or b) one time upfront tax with some concession, the govt instead thinks up a complicated scheme with many loose ends which are open to interpretation.

We know how it ends when its open to interpretation, and discriminatory based on a public officer's whims.

Completely agree with the discrimination part, "How can everyone enjoy being benefited?" if we (Govt, admins and everyone else on the controlling side) are stuck with this question, there is no point talking about settling on moon or mars or anything that is feasible as well.

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

The problem in our country with providing the option of 2 year road tax is many people will not renew the road tax when due and continue plying the vehicles. See how many vehicles on our roads ply with expired insurance and one can get an idea.

People who want to evade taxes will evade taxes, we have all seen vehicles without registration plates. There is no point discussing option of 2 years and possible lifetime of the vehicles.

We have also seen cases where insurance companies put vehicles in "very bad shape" again on sale to minimize their own damages. What is the point of getting insurance for such vehicles in first place? Cancellation of registration and refund of road tax for total loss is something I haven't seen being discussed outside this forum (I accept that I have limited knowledge).

If there is a way to make life easy of one section which is earning/spending on the record, someone should definitely have issues with their possible trouble-free life. This doesn't sound good to me.