[tanbeamer]

In the past few days, there have been quite some instances of fuel pump failing on Hyundai vehicles with the 1.0 TGDi and 1.4 TGDi engines.

No recall has been issued by Hyundai/Kia as of now though which is baffling.

With all these issues cropping up, my personal avoidance of cars from Hyundai and from its sister companies like Kia and Genesis has only become stronger.

A friend has sent the attached pictures.





Requesting all Hyundai/Kia owners with the aforementioned engines to get their vehicles checked at the nearest service centre

[Shreyans_Jain]

Fuel pump failures, while certainly don’t desirable, will be covered under warranty.

Direct injection turbo petrols are inherently extremely sensitive to fuel quality. Such instances will only worsen once ethanol blending becomes mandatory. Always buy maximum possible warranty for these new high tech cars.

[sidindica]

Originally Posted by tanbeamer

In the past few days, there have been quite some instances of fuel pump failing on Hyundai vehicles with the 1.0 TGDi and 1.4 TGDi engines.

No recall has been issued by Hyundai/Kia as of now though which is baffling.

With all these issues cropping up, my personal avoidance of cars from Hyundai and from its sister companies like Kia and Genesis has only become stronger.

A friend has sent the attached pictures.

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Requesting all Hyundai/Kia owners with the aforementioned engines to get their vehicles checked at the nearest service centre

There is one more N line which broke down in TS owing to fuel pump failure. This cannot be a mere coincidence, this is on the way to become a widespread issue albeit slowly.

Some workshops are aware of this but not making statements in public. Recently an alcazar too was affected in Delhi.

Seems like this is spreading across random petrol BS6 vehicles, probably due to adverse weather conditions with pumps overheating and not supplying enough fuel. In this case the vehicle needs to be parked for 30 mins to cool down and then see if it starts or not. If it starts, well and good, if it doesn't, the vehicle needs to be towed to HASS. In both cases the FIP needs to be replaced.

@tanbeamer, kindly share the photos of the TS car as well.

[tanbeamer]

Originally Posted by sidindica

@tanbeamer, kindly share the photos of the TS car as well.

Here are the pictures of the TS registered car.








Affected car is a grey i20 N line

[sunikkat]

Wasn't this the issue that Kushaq had too? Fuel pump failure leading to EPC error.

Has the quality of fuel deteriorated so much or are the new turbo engines not able to cope up with the fuel quality?

[Naparajito]

This is a serious concern. The manufacturer should probably investigate regarding the issue at the earliest.

Looks like the testing wasn't upto standards as mentioned by other members of the forum on the Skoda fuel pump threads.

[GTO]

Very concerned with the complexity of these new engines & transmissions (Hyundai-Kia's dual-clutch AT is another topic altogether), and how they are going to fare in the longer run. Extended warranty is a must, yes. But that doesn't cover the gross inconvenience faced with a breakdown. And out of warranty, these turbo-petrol engine components & DCTs will cost a bomb to repair. It's why - if I were to buy a Creta or Seltos - I'd pick the Diesel AT. More robust engine, more robust transmission, good FE even if I drive hard (turbo-petrol FE sinks with throttle input).

Disappointing to see India's no.2 manufacturer grappling with quality issues since 3 - 4 years. Wasn't the case before.

[fhdowntheline]

As far as I remember, the Hyundai Venue and the Grand I10 NIOS have had the 1.0 GDI engine for nearly 3 years now. Even the 1.4 GDI engine has been around for a bit over 2 years now. What has suddenly changed for it to have such issues? Is it manufacturing quality issues due to Covid ? Or is it some ethanol blend related issue which the engine is not able to cope with?

On the topic of the DCT, incidentally, just a couple of days ago I saw a Seltos DCT which had passed me earlier, get stuck in the quagmire of the Chandni Chowk flyover mess at Pune. We literally crawled 30 min or so over less than 500m. And just as we slowly got out of it, I saw that car standing over to the side, bonnet held up, occupants standing next to it all puzzled. I had no doubt it might have been a DCT overheating issue.

[asit.kulkarni93]

Originally Posted by GTO

Disappointing to see India's no.2 manufacturer grappling with quality issues since 3 - 4 years. Wasn't the case before.

Quality concerns aren't new with Hyundais. It's not a recent development but has been around for a while. The 1.2 Kappa engine i10s also had fuel pump related issues. Some cars also had a broken fuel pump after crashing into potholes. The fuel pump body would bend. Fuel pump motor related issues in i20s and vernas. The diesel engines have issues around the turbo & head gasket too.

[searacer932]

This makes me to tilt more and more towards either a Diesel AT (you still have DPF issues!) or a simple Petrol NA engine mated to a CVT/IVT/AT (preferred)

Even a manual turbo petrol car seems to be a risky buy!

[sidindica]

And here is an N line with TCU malfunction.



And another blue N line being towed due to FIP issue. So this is the 4th case reported of N line's FIP issue.

[docted]

Even new Jeep Compass 1.4 petrol automatic are facing fule pump issue and the company is replacing them.

[Olympal]

Fuel grade and quality could be the culprit. For all turbo petrol engines 95 octane petrol is recommended. The standard petrol available in bunks is 91 octane. Only some Indian Oil bunks have it.
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[dhanushs]

Originally Posted by Olympal

Fuel grade and quality could be the culprit. For all turbo petrol engines 95 octane petrol is recommended. The standard petrol available in bunks is 91 octane. Only some Indian Oil bunks have it.
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Um.. Would appreciate more clarity on this. Does the manual say that it has to be 95 octane petrol? If so, for which engines?

It's strange for a manufacturer to sell engines using fuel which isnt readily available.

[prajwalmr62]

Originally Posted by Olympal

Fuel grade and quality could be the culprit. For all turbo petrol engines 95 octane petrol is recommended. The standard petrol available in bunks is 91 octane. Only some Indian Oil bunks have it.
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Originally Posted by dhanushs

Um.. Would appreciate more clarity on this. Does the manual say that it has to be 95 octane petrol? If so, for which engines?

Hyundai Venue manual says,

Your new vehicle is designed to use only unleaded fuel having an Octane Rating of RON (Research Octane Number) 91 / AKI (Anti-Knock Index) 87 or higher. (Do not use methanol blended fuels)

Your new vehicle is designed to obtain maximum performance with UN- LEADED FUEL, as well as minimize exhaust emissions and spark plug fouling.

It also mentions,

Do not use gasohol containing more than 10% ethanol, and do not use Petrol or gasohol containing any methanol. Either of these fuels may cause drivability problems and damage to the fuel system, engine control system and emission control system.

Discontinue using gasohol of any kind if drivability problems occur.