Maruti to counter Nano

rajivanoj · 5th February 2008, 14:22

I feel suzuki on verge of confusion.

lots of questions suzuki hav to answer.
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what would be status of M800? will it be phased out ?
600cc car looks cool than alto, then what hapens to alto?
its tough to position this car in 1.5l bracket when alto and M800 are in market, even estilo is there. pricing and price reduction is tough task among these suzuki cars.

ankit.jhamb · 5th February 2008, 14:57

i think maruti wants to see what are the drawbacks in the nano after it is launched,and then give a 650 cc car at approximately the same price as nano with all the problems fixed.

A.R · 5th February 2008, 15:06

It's all about survival of the fittest in each segment. Every consumer market is evolving. If you can't offer VFM, you're gone sooner or later. Maruti enjoyed the lowest priced car (base segment) for years as none wanted to produce & sell cheap cars & make little profit here (not wrt %age). TATA came out with a concept of a 1 lac car & created a new segment altogether. Now everyone wants to show presence in that yet to practically survive segment.

The TATA's & Suzuki's base for engine design & platform will be different. So can't expect much similarities.

raul · 5th February 2008, 15:31

The printed article mentions a few more things.

I found the 'decontentise' comment in the article very unusual. We all know modifying cars for 'Indian conditions' means stripping it considerably but no manufacturer has yet admitted it so openly.

In this case Maruti says they will remove airbags, abs and power steering... Also they are looking at cheaper materials for the body. Maruti does this with most of their models for India but when is the last time you heard them admitting it openly to the press. This smacks of spin rather than a sincere attempt to compete with the Nano.

ashutoshb · 5th February 2008, 16:03

Finally, A segment buyers will have choices. Even today, one with a budget of two lakhs, hardly has a choice. He has either the 800 or the Alto. Standard versions of both, do not have air conditioning.

4-5 years from now, he will have the nano, the bajaj car, the hyundai car and the maruti 'under A'. Which is a good thing. One should have choices, at any price point. When the C segment buyer can have 10 cars to choose from, why can't an A segment buyer have the same?

squid · 5th February 2008, 16:44

Just received an fax on the newsdesk of my paper from Maruti saying that it completely denies the existence of such a project and that it isn't working on a car cheaper than the Maruti 800.

Maybe the guys at TOI have jumped the gun.

Squid

blackhawk · 5th February 2008, 17:36

Report in Rediff :

Maruti Suzuki has no plans to launch Rs 1.5-lakh car

Amid a race among auto makers to benchmark their smallest car against Tata's Rs 1-lakh (Rs 100,000) car, market leader Maruti on Tuesday said it has no plans to develop a vehicle with a 660cc engine, positioned below the Maruti 800 and priced at Rs 1.5 lakh (Rs 150,000).

Full Text here : Maruti has no plans for Rs 1.5-lakh car

Karandeep81 · 5th February 2008, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackhawk

Report in Rediff :

Maruti Suzuki has no plans to launch Rs 1.5-lakh car

Amid a race among auto makers to benchmark their smallest car against Tata's Rs 1-lakh (Rs 100,000) car, market leader Maruti on Tuesday said it has no plans to develop a vehicle with a 660cc engine, positioned below the Maruti 800 and priced at Rs 1.5 lakh (Rs 150,000).

Full Text here : Maruti has no plans for Rs 1.5-lakh car

Oh well Honda always said they had no plans to launch the city with ABS/Airbags if I am right.
And why would a publication like TOI including ET make headlines if this wasn't true?
Whatever it may be one thing is for sure that Maruti has already felt the heat, but cant do anything because of the earlier ridiculing.

crazybiker46 · 5th February 2008, 18:20

i remember an article in OD last year about suzuki cervo replacing M800,splash as new wagonR and SX4 as new baleno.Also stated in article that suzuki might think about the prospect of cervo taking on Nano.specifications of cervo in article are 658cc,54 ps etc.

ashutoshb · 5th February 2008, 18:27

Read this: http://www.marutisuzuki.com/maruti-s...aruti-800.aspx

ankit.jhamb · 6th February 2008, 08:56

todays times of india has an article on pg26,""NO plans to launch a sub 800 cc car""::maruti

snaronikar · 6th February 2008, 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by ankit.jhamb

todays times of india has an article on pg26,""NO plans to launch a sub 800 cc car""::maruti

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackhawk

Report in Rediff :

Maruti Suzuki has no plans to launch Rs 1.5-lakh car

Amid a race among auto makers to benchmark their smallest car against Tata's Rs 1-lakh (Rs 100,000) car, market leader Maruti on Tuesday said it has no plans to develop a vehicle with a 660cc engine, positioned below the Maruti 800 and priced at Rs 1.5 lakh (Rs 150,000).

Full Text here : Maruti has no plans for Rs 1.5-lakh car

What's this confusiion?

Y'day in TOI it was a headlines that MUL will venture out a new car to compete with Nano. Today, I'am seeing they are not interested. The newspapers are creating some kind of confusion in the minds of people just to sell their papers.

ankit.jhamb · 6th February 2008, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaronikar

What's this confusiion?

Y'day in TOI it was a headlines that MUL will venture out a new car to compete with Nano. Today, I'am seeing they are not interested. The newspapers are creating some kind of confusion in the minds of people just to sell their papers.

maybe they donot want others to know that they are entering "under 800cc" segment.

they want to surprise customers by launching the car,without giving any details about it

VBV · 6th February 2008, 11:32

Times of India is a tabloid and it prints all sorts of things. It then comes out with a disclaimer in page 26 or more. Usual media tactic. Guess who gains commercially.

VBV

ram_hyundai · 6th February 2008, 11:39

maruti has no plans to counter the nano in any way with a new variant or model for the time being.nano production as it is is not in full swing for any one to worry about.it would take its own sweet time to be launched.
ram

5th February 2008, 14:22	#31
rajivanoj BANNED Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 398 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	I feel suzuki on verge of confusion. lots of questions suzuki hav to answer. ------------------------------------ what would be status of M800? will it be phased out ? 600cc car looks cool than alto, then what hapens to alto? its tough to position this car in 1.5l bracket when alto and M800 are in market, even estilo is there. pricing and price reduction is tough task among these suzuki cars.
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5th February 2008, 14:57	#32
ankit.jhamb BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: new delhi Posts: 573 Thanked: Once	i think maruti wants to see what are the drawbacks in the nano after it is launched,and then give a 650 cc car at approximately the same price as nano with all the problems fixed.
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5th February 2008, 15:06	#33
A.R BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 151 Thanked: 11 Times	It's all about survival of the fittest in each segment. Every consumer market is evolving. If you can't offer VFM, you're gone sooner or later. Maruti enjoyed the lowest priced car (base segment) for years as none wanted to produce & sell cheap cars & make little profit here (not wrt %age). TATA came out with a concept of a 1 lac car & created a new segment altogether. Now everyone wants to show presence in that yet to practically survive segment. The TATA's & Suzuki's base for engine design & platform will be different. So can't expect much similarities.
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5th February 2008, 15:31	#34
raul BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 920 Thanked: 372 Times	The printed article mentions a few more things. I found the 'decontentise' comment in the article very unusual. We all know modifying cars for 'Indian conditions' means stripping it considerably but no manufacturer has yet admitted it so openly. In this case Maruti says they will remove airbags, abs and power steering... Also they are looking at cheaper materials for the body. Maruti does this with most of their models for India but when is the last time you heard them admitting it openly to the press. This smacks of spin rather than a sincere attempt to compete with the Nano.
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5th February 2008, 16:03	#35
ashutoshb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NOIDA Posts: 1,760 Thanked: 4,291 Times View My Garage	Finally, A segment buyers will have choices. Even today, one with a budget of two lakhs, hardly has a choice. He has either the 800 or the Alto. Standard versions of both, do not have air conditioning. 4-5 years from now, he will have the nano, the bajaj car, the hyundai car and the maruti 'under A'. Which is a good thing. One should have choices, at any price point. When the C segment buyer can have 10 cars to choose from, why can't an A segment buyer have the same?
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5th February 2008, 16:44	#36
squid BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 26 Thanked: 0 Times	Just received an fax on the newsdesk of my paper from Maruti saying that it completely denies the existence of such a project and that it isn't working on a car cheaper than the Maruti 800. Maybe the guys at TOI have jumped the gun. Squid
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5th February 2008, 17:36	#37
blackhawk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: hyderabad Posts: 7 Thanked: 0 Times	Report in Rediff : Maruti Suzuki has no plans to launch Rs 1.5-lakh car Amid a race among auto makers to benchmark their smallest car against Tata's Rs 1-lakh (Rs 100,000) car, market leader Maruti on Tuesday said it has no plans to develop a vehicle with a 660cc engine, positioned below the Maruti 800 and priced at Rs 1.5 lakh (Rs 150,000). Full Text here : Maruti has no plans for Rs 1.5-lakh car
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5th February 2008, 18:20	#39
crazybiker46 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: TRV-DXB Posts: 605 Thanked: 404 Times View My Garage	i remember an article in OD last year about suzuki cervo replacing M800,splash as new wagonR and SX4 as new baleno.Also stated in article that suzuki might think about the prospect of cervo taking on Nano.specifications of cervo in article are 658cc,54 ps etc.
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5th February 2008, 18:27	#40
ashutoshb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NOIDA Posts: 1,760 Thanked: 4,291 Times View My Garage	Read this: http://www.marutisuzuki.com/maruti-s...aruti-800.aspx
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6th February 2008, 08:56	#41
ankit.jhamb BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: new delhi Posts: 573 Thanked: Once	todays times of india has an article on pg26,""NO plans to launch a sub 800 cc car""::maruti
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6th February 2008, 11:32	#44
VBV BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 227 Thanked: 6 Times	Times of India is a tabloid and it prints all sorts of things. It then comes out with a disclaimer in page 26 or more. Usual media tactic. Guess who gains commercially. VBV
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6th February 2008, 11:39	#45
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	maruti has no plans to counter the nano in any way with a new variant or model for the time being.nano production as it is is not in full swing for any one to worry about.it would take its own sweet time to be launched. ram
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