Swift gets new engine from Renault?

TomRider · 8th December 2008, 10:06

Swift Diesel will be having a new heart soon (from Renault! Logan's?).

I got this info from a friend of mine. A sales person from Ford also told me the same.

Is it just a rumor? or ???

Mods: I searched for a similar topic and could not find. And please delete the thread if you strongly feel that the news is just a rumor.

kcstheg · 8th December 2008, 10:17

The Renault Logan Engine, though is more efficient, is quite underpowered when compared to the DDIS heart.

The peppy and rev friendly engine is the biggest factor pulling people towards the Swift 'X'Di. I would not suppose Maruti would do this.
If they do, it would seriously affect the future of Swift and Dzire.

Have you heard of this from a reliance source close to the Marutis' ?

madhokritesh · 8th December 2008, 10:18

I guess its just a rumor cause the Swift DDIS is the best seller from Maruti and still has a long waiting for it, why would Maruti play this gamble and change the best selling cars engine. I guess no Logan engine on the DDIS.

abhijit 2284 · 8th December 2008, 10:20

seems very unlikely that mul will purchase a new engine when it has its own engine manufacturing plant in india

TomRider · 8th December 2008, 10:25

The news was quite believable to me while considering the delivery time of Swift and Dezire.

Anthym · 8th December 2008, 10:28

Or probably Maruti is looking to offer this is an option to Swift / Dzire buyers along-with the current unit from Fiat.
This could be more of a demand supply issue here. The logan is not selling in sufficient numbers. The Dzire has a 6-7 month waiting period. Mahindra-Renault can transfer a few of their units over to Maruti who would be happy to plonk them in their cars given that they get to move the cars faster off the assembly line and minimise the waiting period.

abhinav.gupta88 · 8th December 2008, 10:30

Maybe it is true . Maybe maruti wants to add another variant to reduce waiting time.

Car-Agey · 8th December 2008, 10:48

Yesterday I was with one of my relatives, who works at Maruti's Engine plant at Manesar. He told me that even swift sales are down and only Sezire is doing well.

He didnt mention anything about the new engine (I didn't ask as I was not aware of any such rumour). I shall confirm when I meet him again.

mclaren1885 · 8th December 2008, 12:56

Tatas have the license to the FIAT engines after their collaboration and they have raised an objection to the engines being supplied to SMIL. So SMIL are looking at various other options is the news doing rounds.

S_budhiraj · 8th December 2008, 13:10

Why do Tata's have objection of SMIL using the DDIS!

Isn't this engine was jointly devloped by GM, Suzuki and Fiat

mclaren1885 · 8th December 2008, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by S_budhiraj

Why do Tata's have objection of SMIL using the DDIS!

Isn't this engine was jointly devloped by GM, Suzuki and Fiat

Yes it was a GV between Suzuki & Fiat. But in India the scene is different it seems. Tata have the upper hand here for some odd reason even I can't understand. So SMIL will either have to build their own engines (and get fiat to agree) or import them from other fiat establishments from other parts of the world. That would escalate the costs further, which is why they are probably looking at Renault engines?

Does anyone know the intricate details about the tie up between Tata, Fiat and SMIL here? Who is manufacturing the engines. Who has the official license to take such a call etc.

blue_pulsar · 8th December 2008, 13:42

Guys, aren't Maruti manufacturing the engines themselves now?

Also, the Suzuki-GM-Fiat link broken now? Now the link is GM-Suzuki. Fiat is nowhere in the scene. Probably they might be getting royalty, thats it.

Edit: I think this thread is related to:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...zire-true.html

throttleking · 8th December 2008, 14:53

But why on this earth Maruti will do that? DDiS is such a lvoely engine. and its already fetching good numbers for Maruti. Look at waiting time for Swift Diesel

esteem_lover · 8th December 2008, 15:09

Maybe this is only for the Dzire. After all the Logan does have a 1.4L engine which maruti could tweak up a bit & push it to 90 Bhp as Fiat has done for the Linea.

Vid6639 · 8th December 2008, 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by esteem_lover

Maybe this is only for the Dzire. After all the Logan does have a 1.4L engine which maruti could tweak up a bit & push it to 90 Bhp as Fiat has done for the Linea.

Logan diesel is a 1.5L engine with 65bhp.

8th December 2008, 10:06	#1
TomRider BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: KL7-KA03-NYC Posts: 340 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	Swift gets new engine from Renault? Swift Diesel will be having a new heart soon (from Renault! Logan's?). I got this info from a friend of mine. A sales person from Ford also told me the same. Is it just a rumor? or ??? Mods: I searched for a similar topic and could not find. And please delete the thread if you strongly feel that the news is just a rumor. Last edited by TomRider : 8th December 2008 at 10:13.
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8th December 2008, 10:17	#2
kcstheg BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: hyderabad Posts: 81 Thanked: 0 Times	The Renault Logan Engine, though is more efficient, is quite underpowered when compared to the DDIS heart. The peppy and rev friendly engine is the biggest factor pulling people towards the Swift 'X'Di. I would not suppose Maruti would do this. If they do, it would seriously affect the future of Swift and Dzire. Have you heard of this from a reliance source close to the Marutis' ?
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8th December 2008, 10:18	#3
madhokritesh BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Thane Posts: 334 Thanked: 4 Times	I guess its just a rumor cause the Swift DDIS is the best seller from Maruti and still has a long waiting for it, why would Maruti play this gamble and change the best selling cars engine. I guess no Logan engine on the DDIS.
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8th December 2008, 10:20	#4
abhijit 2284 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Aurangabad Posts: 206 Thanked: 113 Times View My Garage	seems very unlikely that mul will purchase a new engine when it has its own engine manufacturing plant in india
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8th December 2008, 10:25	#5
TomRider BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: KL7-KA03-NYC Posts: 340 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	The news was quite believable to me while considering the delivery time of Swift and Dezire.
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8th December 2008, 10:28	#6
Anthym BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London Posts: 194 Thanked: 38 Times	Or probably Maruti is looking to offer this is an option to Swift / Dzire buyers along-with the current unit from Fiat. This could be more of a demand supply issue here. The logan is not selling in sufficient numbers. The Dzire has a 6-7 month waiting period. Mahindra-Renault can transfer a few of their units over to Maruti who would be happy to plonk them in their cars given that they get to move the cars faster off the assembly line and minimise the waiting period.
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8th December 2008, 10:30	#7
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,090 Thanked: 341 Times View My Garage	Maybe it is true . Maybe maruti wants to add another variant to reduce waiting time.
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8th December 2008, 10:48	#8
Car-Agey BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 344 Thanked: 54 Times	Yesterday I was with one of my relatives, who works at Maruti's Engine plant at Manesar. He told me that even swift sales are down and only Sezire is doing well. He didnt mention anything about the new engine (I didn't ask as I was not aware of any such rumour). I shall confirm when I meet him again.
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8th December 2008, 12:56	#9
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,818 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Tatas have the license to the FIAT engines after their collaboration and they have raised an objection to the engines being supplied to SMIL. So SMIL are looking at various other options is the news doing rounds.
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8th December 2008, 13:10	#10
S_budhiraj BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 275 Thanked: Once	Why do Tata's have objection of SMIL using the DDIS! Isn't this engine was jointly devloped by GM, Suzuki and Fiat
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8th December 2008, 13:42	#12
blue_pulsar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,113 Thanked: 408 Times	Guys, aren't Maruti manufacturing the engines themselves now? Also, the Suzuki-GM-Fiat link broken now? Now the link is GM-Suzuki. Fiat is nowhere in the scene. Probably they might be getting royalty, thats it. Edit: I think this thread is related to: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...zire-true.html Last edited by blue_pulsar : 8th December 2008 at 13:44.
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8th December 2008, 14:53	#13
throttleking BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 804 Thanked: 447 Times	But why on this earth Maruti will do that? DDiS is such a lvoely engine. and its already fetching good numbers for Maruti. Look at waiting time for Swift Diesel
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8th December 2008, 15:09	#14
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	Maybe this is only for the Dzire. After all the Logan does have a 1.4L engine which maruti could tweak up a bit & push it to 90 Bhp as Fiat has done for the Linea.
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