What is the fuel efficiency of i10 Automatic

Arun1 · 11th May 2010, 14:45

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Originally Posted by blackasta

For i10 the shift points are around 10-15 (1->2), 35-40(2->3), and 55-60(3->4), all at around 2200 rpm in the tacho THIS IS ONLY WITH STEADY AND MODERATE ACCELERATION - as I have revved till 4000 rpm in 1st gear (feels great I must say, though VERY BAD for FE), and held the 3rd gear till 70 (3500 rpm). As you become acquainted to A/T driving, you shall learn modulating the gear with the gas pedal.

Which begs the question,what is the highest possible rpm one would consider to be absolutely safe,not in terms of FE, but in terms of engine care.
I have to do 2500rpm if I want to go from 60 to 90-100 in decent enough time.Time taken at even 2000 rpm feels almost like twice the time at 2500rpm.I think 2500rpm might be some kind of sweet spot.
The absolute max I'd take is to 3000rpm and it feels great but not without a slight feeling of guilt of wearing down the engine a bit.I have never intentionally done 4000rpm btw,sometimes accidentally maybe but only for a couple of seconds.

blackasta · 11th May 2010, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Arun1

Which begs the question,what is the highest possible rpm one would consider to be absolutely safe,not in terms of FE, but in terms of engine care.
I have to do 2500rpm if I want to go from 60 to 90-100 in decent enough time.Time taken at even 2000 rpm feels almost like twice the time at 2500rpm.I think 2500rpm might be some kind of sweet spot.
The absolute max I'd take is to 3000rpm and it feels great but not without a slight feeling of guilt of wearing down the engine a bit.I have never intentionally done 4000rpm btw,sometimes accidentally maybe but only for a couple of seconds.

Ideally it should be just below the redline (going by the books) - but the autobox would shift far ahead of that.
I say 3000 rpm is good enough.
BTW - have you experienced kickdown? While going at 65, the kickdown mode thursts the car into 3rd gear and rpm leaps to around 5000 - and it feels WOW!

Mpower · 11th May 2010, 20:54

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Originally Posted by mohandas

That's not legal currently. It hasn't got the RTO approval for that conversion.

Interesting. Do you have a list of approved cars to share.

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Originally Posted by mohandas

Disagree. Given the pathetic boot size, this will lose the practicality aspect of this car entirely.

Disagree! reasons below

1.Large % of people who have an i-10 AT also have a second car which is bigger
2.Nobody buys AT car for holiday trips
3.Tons of hatchbacks with LPG-kits
4. Heard of torridal tanks?

Arun1 · 12th May 2010, 02:38

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Originally Posted by blackasta

Ideally it should be just below the redline (going by the books) - but the autobox would shift far ahead of that.
I say 3000 rpm is good enough.
BTW - have you experienced kickdown? While going at 65, the kickdown mode thursts the car into 3rd gear and rpm leaps to around 5000 - and it feels WOW!

Thats what I think happened when I mentioned crossing 3k rpm into the 4k+ rpm range accidentally.I agree it feels really awesome

Can we intentionally go into kickdown mode from time to time say if we wanted to overtake another car

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Arun1 · 12th May 2010, 02:51

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Interesting. Do you have a list of approved cars to share.

Disagree! reasons below

1.Large % of people who have an i-10 AT also have a second car which is bigger
2.Nobody buys AT car for holiday trips
3.Tons of hatchbacks with LPG-kits
4. Heard of torridal tanks?

There aren't many AT cars in the market to make a proper list of specifically cng ATs.
The Innova AT CNG immediately comes to my mind though.Probably the Corolla CNG has an AT option too?

As for your second part I'd disagree that people won't choose an AT for holiday trips.FE for AT depends a lot on the number of gear shifts being done which is larger than manual in city but pretty much the same on highway.Which is why my FE results on the highway are on par with a manual i10.Not that I'd recommend the i10 for a long drive for a family or a group of 3 or more but I wouldn't rule out the Innova CNG AT just because its an AT.

blackasta · 12th May 2010, 02:55

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Originally Posted by Arun1

Thats what I think happened when I mentioned crossing 3k rpm into the 4k+ rpm range accidentally.I agree it feels really awesome

Can we intentionally go into kickdown mode from time to time say if we wanted to overtake another car

?

Yup!! Thats the very reason kickdown mode is there. Downshift and zoom....

amitoj · 13th May 2010, 16:42

Did anyone get an oil change done at the first service? I know Hyundai does not recommend it but TBHP's Article on Run-In recommends an oil change after 1000 kms.

Simhi · 13th May 2010, 19:08

Yes, I gotmy i10AT serviced on 8th May and I got the engine oil along with oil filter changed. The service advisor did mention that it was not required and the same could be carried out during 2nd service. However, I insisted on getting it changed and had to pay for the oil.

amitoj · 13th May 2010, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Simhi

Yes, I gotmy i10AT serviced on 8th May and I got the engine oil along with oil filter changed. The service advisor did mention that it was not required and the same could be carried out during 2nd service. However, I insisted on getting it changed and had to pay for the oil.

Cool! So how is the car behaving after the oil change? Any effect on FE?

Simhi · 18th May 2010, 22:44

Too early to say about FE. I have hardly covered 150kms in last 10 days and got tank filled up just once. I will keep you updated on FE once I cover 2000kms.

Simhi · 10th July 2010, 19:35

Friends, I voted for 10 to 12 kmpl. Finally this week I am through with my run in period of 2000kms. We are very pleased with performance of our car especially the FE. The FE is beyond expectations. We are getting close to 12 (11.8).

trrk · 11th July 2010, 12:09

Hi,

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Originally Posted by Simhi

The FE is beyond expectations. We are getting close to 12 (11.8).

That is indeed good efficiency. With AC, I presume?

4x4addict · 11th July 2010, 20:49

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

I have an Santro AT (same gearbox but the Epsilon engine) since 2003 (about 30,000km). I average about 9.5-10kpl around town.

I too have a 2002 Santro AT (1.1 Liter engine). I get about 9.5 to 10.5 km/liter in city driving with a light foot.

xingamazon · 11th July 2010, 21:21

I have a slightly OT question here.
Will the FE for all the AT be similar, or is there difference even between different technologies of AT that can make a difference in the FE figures of these cars.

I mean, given a relative scale, I would assume the FE figures of AT vehicle to be 5-7.kmpl less than the manual version of the car. Is there a way that a high technological advancement can bring down this difference to less than 2 kmpl difference between the AT version and manual version.

ikoneer · 12th July 2010, 11:01

My i10 AT mileage is very less, am getting only about 6.5-7-8 in pure city driving with a/c all the time.
Trying to be light foot makes me get glares and stares and occasional verbal duels from all the other cars. so try to push it a bit and mileage gets pushed much faster.

Any tips to improve. Car has done about 5.500 kms and due for second service

View Poll Results: wHAT IS THE FUEL CONSUMPTION OF YOUR i10 AUTOMATIC
6-8 kpl	27	27.00%
8-10 kpl	47	47.00%
10-12 kpl	20	20.00%
12 +	6	6.00%
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13th May 2010, 16:42	#142
amitoj Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Windham, NH USA Posts: 3,348 Thanked: 3,092 Times View My Garage	Did anyone get an oil change done at the first service? I know Hyundai does not recommend it but TBHP's Article on Run-In recommends an oil change after 1000 kms.
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13th May 2010, 19:08	#143
Simhi BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 627 Thanked: 1,303 Times	Yes, I gotmy i10AT serviced on 8th May and I got the engine oil along with oil filter changed. The service advisor did mention that it was not required and the same could be carried out during 2nd service. However, I insisted on getting it changed and had to pay for the oil.
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18th May 2010, 22:44	#145
Simhi BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 627 Thanked: 1,303 Times	Too early to say about FE. I have hardly covered 150kms in last 10 days and got tank filled up just once. I will keep you updated on FE once I cover 2000kms.
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10th July 2010, 19:35	#146
Simhi BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 627 Thanked: 1,303 Times	Friends, I voted for 10 to 12 kmpl. Finally this week I am through with my run in period of 2000kms. We are very pleased with performance of our car especially the FE. The FE is beyond expectations. We are getting close to 12 (11.8).
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11th July 2010, 21:21	#149
xingamazon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,400 Thanked: 121 Times	I have a slightly OT question here. Will the FE for all the AT be similar, or is there difference even between different technologies of AT that can make a difference in the FE figures of these cars. I mean, given a relative scale, I would assume the FE figures of AT vehicle to be 5-7.kmpl less than the manual version of the car. Is there a way that a high technological advancement can bring down this difference to less than 2 kmpl difference between the AT version and manual version.
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12th July 2010, 11:01	#150
ikoneer BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: chennai Posts: 486 Thanked: 14 Times	My i10 AT mileage is very less, am getting only about 6.5-7-8 in pure city driving with a/c all the time. Trying to be light foot makes me get glares and stares and occasional verbal duels from all the other cars. so try to push it a bit and mileage gets pushed much faster. Any tips to improve. Car has done about 5.500 kms and due for second service
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