Silent and sad Omission on the new Verna - Now sports Drum brakes at rear on SX

sajands · 18th September 2009, 09:33

What's wrong with Hyundai, day by ay they are killing good brands...1st it was the getz and now the verna. no rear disc's, no airbags whats next from hyundai lower bhp?????

Aditya · 18th September 2009, 09:45

Not good to hear. In an era when manufacturers should be thinking of and adding more safety features to their cars, Hyundai has gone backwards. Not a good sign.
When Hyundai came to India, I absolutely hated them. Over the years, however, I gained a lot of respect for them because the gave their Indian customers what they wanted.
Such actions just makes one lose faith in the brand.

dinu2506 · 18th September 2009, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

The real fact is that Hyundai stopped rear discs from february itself when this new 2009 verna was launched. And the dealers are telling you now?

Not sure this is true as I have seen new Verna's with discs as late as July 09 with the cosmetic upgrade. I'm sure they withdrew the discs last month only

bashani · 18th September 2009, 11:00

I own a Verna (Non ABS) and it has all 4 discs and every morning the first few times you hit the brakes the car stops dead in its tracks or skids.
Till date I am regretting not buying the ABS version

This is true for most Verna buyers, most people just do not see the need for ABS in cars or for that matter most safety features in India, they would rather have a cash discount instead of Air-bags.
Looking at this maybe Hyundai decided that they should remove the discs in the rear as they lock without the ABS feature and replace it with drums and also make a quick buck in the process...

sajands · 18th September 2009, 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinu2506

Not sure this is true as I have seen new Verna's with discs as late as July 09 with the cosmetic upgrade. I'm sure they withdrew the discs last month only

maybe hyundai were providing rear discs till the stocks ran out for the customers who had already booked for rear discs+abs.

vkochar · 18th September 2009, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by sajands

What's wrong with Hyundai, day by ay they are killing good brands...1st it was the getz and now the verna. no rear disc's, no airbags whats next from hyundai lower bhp?????

That would be the Cherry on the cake !! Lower BHP - Hyundai will then sell only Santro's & I10's. No premium cars then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinu2506

Not sure this is true as I have seen new Verna's with discs as late as July 09 with the cosmetic upgrade. I'm sure they withdrew the discs last month only

Yes, I saw Rear discs a few months back on a friends car he brought.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashani

I own a Verna (Non ABS) and it has all 4 discs and every morning the first few times you hit the brakes the car stops dead in its tracks or skids.
Till date I am regretting not buying the ABS version

I am not sure about this !! I know this for sure that only ABS Vernas till now had discs all around. I am 100 % sure.

Yes, ABS does help a lot in the braking. Of course the normal cars braking is excellent BUT ABS helps a lot in wet conditions.

Maverick1977 · 18th September 2009, 11:21

This is not much surprising. Majority of Indians will never bother to find out if the rear brakes are disc or drum. These things make a difference to the true blue enthusiasts only.

bashani · 18th September 2009, 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by vkochar

I am not sure about this !! I know this for sure that only ABS Vernas till now had discs all around. I am 100 % sure.

My Bad, you might be right. Will take your word for it. Will check the tyres ASAP.

kpzen · 18th September 2009, 11:42

Ridiculous move by Hyundai !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by undead

@pheonix , @hellstar : We dont have ABS nor rear disc in Getz CRDi, but still we wanted to have it and loved it right ?

The raw power of this car will make you grin all life but i feel you need better brakes for the speeds it is capable of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rippergeo

We'd love the getz crdi more if it had rear disc brakes

My sms and numbers would have irritate you even more :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinu2506

Not sure this is true as I have seen new Verna's with discs as late as July 09 with the cosmetic upgrade. I'm sure they withdrew the discs last month only

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

The real fact is that Hyundai stopped rear discs from february itself when this new 2009 verna was launched. And the dealers are telling you now?

July 09 SX model with ABS

Silent and sad Omission on the new Verna - Now sports Drum brakes at rear on SX-18092009328-medium.jpg

Silent and sad Omission on the new Verna - Now sports Drum brakes at rear on SX-18092009327-medium.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashani

I own a Verna (Non ABS) and it has all 4 discs

Thats news to me !
This thread is bringing out new unheard variants of Verna

suren181 · 18th September 2009, 16:10

True even I have never heard of a Non ABS Verna with rear discs.

However, the crux of the matter is that I'd rather that the Alloys could have been made part of the Executive Kit that they have now introduced, but continued to give Disc brakes at the rear also for the Verna.

Hyundai, if you are listening, I was to buy a Getz CDRi but did not do so, just because it lacked ABS. One thing is the market now has matured and the customer is well educated on ABS Airbags etc. Why deprive them of safety, market your Alloys et al as options. Discs cannot be done later.

Sarvodaya · 18th September 2009, 16:33

After killing Getz CRDI, now Hyundai is trying to kill Verna. Hyundai marketing is very strange. I 20 is offered with 4 Disc + Airbags, ABS. I 10 is also offered with Airbags + ABS. Now Verna with 110 BHP Engine with drum brakes at the rear. Hyundai has a nice Car positioned between 8 to 10 Lakhs range. But shocking to hear that it does not have Airbags. Now they have even removed the rear disc. What they will delete next? The Car itself.

kpzen · 18th September 2009, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarvodaya

What they will delete next? The Car itself.

Quite possible..may be a replacement..

Hyundai's tactics are crazy and unpredictable.

predatorwheelz · 18th September 2009, 19:18

Guys, are you sure about the factual accuracy of this?

I bought a Verna CRDI SX ABS in September 2008. I was categorically told that the SX comes with rear drums as standard, and you get rear discs only if you buy the ABS pack.. Thats a strong reason why I chose ABS!

In fact, the demo car I test drove before was an SX, with rear drums. (I bent down and checked)

IMHO, the Verna SX never came as rear discs as standard. Still, to avoid a war here, I'll try to retrieve the company brochure I was handed when I bought the car and scan it across for everyone's benefit.

itwasntme · 18th September 2009, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarvodaya

After killing Getz CRDI, now Hyundai is trying to kill Verna. Hyundai marketing is very strange. What they will delete next? The Car itself.

Have you seen pictures of the 'new' Verna Transform? Looks 10 times worse. Answer is yes, Hyundai IS trying to kill the Verna

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Ben Nicholson · 19th September 2009, 13:24

well i had lost a bet with my friend claiming verna had rear discs!!!!! hmmm.. bulbs from hyundai to me.

18th September 2009, 09:33	#16
sajands BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 941 Thanked: 347 Times View My Garage	What's wrong with Hyundai, day by ay they are killing good brands...1st it was the getz and now the verna. no rear disc's, no airbags whats next from hyundai lower bhp?????
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18th September 2009, 09:45	#17
Aditya Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17,845 Thanked: 77,082 Times View My Garage	Not good to hear. In an era when manufacturers should be thinking of and adding more safety features to their cars, Hyundai has gone backwards. Not a good sign. When Hyundai came to India, I absolutely hated them. Over the years, however, I gained a lot of respect for them because the gave their Indian customers what they wanted. Such actions just makes one lose faith in the brand.
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18th September 2009, 11:00	#19
bashani BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nasik Posts: 73 Thanked: 0 Times	I own a Verna (Non ABS) and it has all 4 discs and every morning the first few times you hit the brakes the car stops dead in its tracks or skids. Till date I am regretting not buying the ABS version This is true for most Verna buyers, most people just do not see the need for ABS in cars or for that matter most safety features in India, they would rather have a cash discount instead of Air-bags. Looking at this maybe Hyundai decided that they should remove the discs in the rear as they lock without the ABS feature and replace it with drums and also make a quick buck in the process...
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18th September 2009, 11:21	#22
Maverick1977 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 997 Thanked: 906 Times View My Garage	This is not much surprising. Majority of Indians will never bother to find out if the rear brakes are disc or drum. These things make a difference to the true blue enthusiasts only.
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18th September 2009, 16:10	#25
suren181 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 850 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	True even I have never heard of a Non ABS Verna with rear discs. However, the crux of the matter is that I'd rather that the Alloys could have been made part of the Executive Kit that they have now introduced, but continued to give Disc brakes at the rear also for the Verna. Hyundai, if you are listening, I was to buy a Getz CDRi but did not do so, just because it lacked ABS. One thing is the market now has matured and the customer is well educated on ABS Airbags etc. Why deprive them of safety, market your Alloys et al as options. Discs cannot be done later.
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18th September 2009, 16:33	#26
Sarvodaya BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 486 Thanked: 821 Times	After killing Getz CRDI, now Hyundai is trying to kill Verna. Hyundai marketing is very strange. I 20 is offered with 4 Disc + Airbags, ABS. I 10 is also offered with Airbags + ABS. Now Verna with 110 BHP Engine with drum brakes at the rear. Hyundai has a nice Car positioned between 8 to 10 Lakhs range. But shocking to hear that it does not have Airbags. Now they have even removed the rear disc. What they will delete next? The Car itself.
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18th September 2009, 19:18	#28
predatorwheelz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Delhi/Kolkata Posts: 1,720 Thanked: 1,981 Times View My Garage	Eh? Guys, are you sure about the factual accuracy of this? I bought a Verna CRDI SX ABS in September 2008. I was categorically told that the SX comes with rear drums as standard, and you get rear discs only if you buy the ABS pack.. Thats a strong reason why I chose ABS! In fact, the demo car I test drove before was an SX, with rear drums. (I bent down and checked) IMHO, the Verna SX never came as rear discs as standard. Still, to avoid a war here, I'll try to retrieve the company brochure I was handed when I bought the car and scan it across for everyone's benefit. Last edited by predatorwheelz : 18th September 2009 at 19:19.
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19th September 2009, 13:24	#30
Ben Nicholson Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 3 Thanked: 0 Times	well i had lost a bet with my friend claiming verna had rear discs!!!!! hmmm.. bulbs from hyundai to me.
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