SCOOP Pics: Next Generation Tata Safari(Pg 8 for new pics)

amitk26 · 2nd November 2010, 14:16

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict

Do you have some evidence like, sales numbers etc to assess that the Mark II Grande is doing better? BTW selling 2 is a 100% increase over selling 1 but it's all relative...

You are right it is relative but MK2 is relatively better then MK1 . Atleast in Bangalore few Yellow board Grande are visible , earlier there were none.

One point last friday I saw a speeding Grande Taxi rammed in to an empty school on Sarjapur Road. Some of the portion of schoolbus was damaged and engine bay of Grande was totally destroyed. Even the battery was crushed .

There were absolutely no injuries to driver he appeared inebriated and was rouged up by crowd. Whole passenger cabin was intact so crumple zone worked as claimed. This kind of miraculous escape was unthinkable in old Sumo so Grande is lot safer then Sumo Victa at least for front impact.

directinjection · 2nd November 2010, 15:22

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Originally Posted by shortbread

@ Direct Injection, I agree at 1.92 tonnes (Kerb weight) it is not exactly light. But compare this with a 4WD Safari, it weighs more than 250 kgs less and that is despite being roomier, better equipped and having 3 rows of seats.

Where did you get the figure of 1.92 tonnes from? The reviews I've come across all mention 2+ tonne figures; that's why I had made the comment. Unfortunately, Aria's official e-brochure only mentions the gross vehicle weight figure which, at 2720 Kgs, again suggests a kerb weight exceeding 2 tonne.

condor · 2nd November 2010, 16:31

@DI - shortbread has clarified that the 1.92 tonnes is the kerb weight. The figures you have seen would typically be laden / Gross weight. This categorization is often mixed-up, so pls do check the numbers & type again.

directinjection · 2nd November 2010, 18:27

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Originally Posted by condor

@DI - shortbread has clarified that the 1.92 tonnes is the kerb weight. The figures you have seen would typically be laden / Gross weight. This categorization is often mixed-up, so pls do check the numbers & type again.

The GVW of fully loaded Safari 2.2 4X4 VX is 2780 KG while its kerb weight is 2170 KG meaning that its payload is 710 KG. The GVW of Aria is 2720 KG. Assuming the payload to be identical, its kerb weight would probably be 2010 KG rather than 1920 KG. Looking at the GVWs, the weight saving is only 60 KG which to me is a bit of a disappointment.

Note: All figures have been taken from e-brochures diplayed at TM web site.

neel385 · 2nd November 2010, 20:12

Tata Motors to change gear in SUV segment
Hey people, any news to collaborate the Feb 2011 timeline mentioned in the news item?

druva · 11th November 2010, 10:25

When I bought my Safari, the sales team was stating that next refresh is only on Feb 2011. They could not comment whether its new platform or upgrade on existing one..

Also, one of the change that TML wanted feedback was removing the rear wheels. IMHO, Safari will loose its character if they do that.

KedarJ · 10th December 2010, 17:31

Hey guys, got to see it again today on NH4. There could be a new safari coming in Feb 2011, but is certainly not this one. This is the face lifted safari having some added goddies. Could not resist to peep in while it was parked. Tail gate has been removed & fitted with a dummy cover. Features I believe must be similar to those of Aria's. Could see a blue lcd screen on the driver console with a big tata logo, seems to be dashbuilt navigator. Some kind of cushioning was fitted at the lower end of the bonnet. Which is probably giving it a squarish look. But atleast exteriors are absolutely same.

MAS · 10th December 2010, 18:36

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Originally Posted by KedarJ

Hey guys, got to see it again today on NH4. There could be a new safari coming in Feb 2011, but is certainly not this one. This is the face lifted safari having some added goddies. Could not resist to peep in while it was parked. Tail gate has been removed & fitted with a dummy cover. Features I believe must be similar to those of Aria's. Could see a blue lcd screen on the driver console with a big tata logo, seems to be dashbuilt navigator. Some kind of cushioning was fitted at the lower end of the bonnet. Which is probably giving it a squarish look. But atleast exteriors are absolutely same.

KedarJ, any photos buddy? If all the goodies come in the new Safari, then it would be really attractive even with the same exteriors.

4x4addict · 10th December 2010, 18:55

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Originally Posted by KedarJ

But atleast exteriors are absolutely same.

This is good news. I am hoping they don't mess with the exteriors. The interior needs to be updated.

DMehta · 29th December 2010, 14:00

I always liked the tata safari. But, only from the outside. I just could not digest the interiors. I hope tata does some justice to the new safari. The interiors of Aria have totally blown me away. I hope the interiors of the new safari are as good as the aria.

KALINGA · 29th December 2010, 15:31

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saildrive · 3rd January 2011, 12:32

Just returned from my trip to Goa, was driving Goa-Mumbai highway 1st Jan. Saw a car wider grill, covered matt black finish doing a test drive. It wasnt tall as the current Safari; drove right in front of me - there wasnt enough time to click a snap....

Naparajito · 8th January 2011, 14:35

Saw this land rover in bangalore in T.C number plate.

kaviprem · 8th January 2011, 21:53

^^^^ The glass b/w the C & D pillar seems like a add-on. According to me, it doesnt go with rest of the design. Rest other views are awesome and really welcome to get this in Indian roads through Safari

The rear glass style looks nice and few minor lines in different levels get this out of a simple box design [unlike Scorpio or Xylo].

shortbread · 8th January 2011, 23:14

Land Rover will soon be getting rid of this platform and replacing the RR/RR Sport/Disco with an all new Aluminum chassis. The major weight saving will bring obvious benefits to both the cars performance and efficiency.

This also means the existing platform will be done away with. Although not the newest design it still sets a benchmark for most global SUVs and is easily leagues ahead of what Indian cos. are churning out now or in the near future. What I am trying to say is that it should form an excellent base for future Tata UVs. Two obvious drawbacks are weight and production costs and perhaps Tata's R&D dept. will have to chip in here.

2nd November 2010, 16:31	#363
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,885 Thanked: 16,065 Times View My Garage	@DI - shortbread has clarified that the 1.92 tonnes is the kerb weight. The figures you have seen would typically be laden / Gross weight. This categorization is often mixed-up, so pls do check the numbers & type again.
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2nd November 2010, 20:12	#365
neel385 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kharagpur Posts: 530 Thanked: 429 Times View My Garage	Tata Motors to change gear in SUV segment Hey people, any news to collaborate the Feb 2011 timeline mentioned in the news item?
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11th November 2010, 10:25	#366
druva BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 313 Thanked: 37 Times	When I bought my Safari, the sales team was stating that next refresh is only on Feb 2011. They could not comment whether its new platform or upgrade on existing one.. Also, one of the change that TML wanted feedback was removing the rear wheels. IMHO, Safari will loose its character if they do that.
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10th December 2010, 17:31	#367
KedarJ Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	Re: SCOOP Pics: Next Generation Tata Safari(Pg 8 for new pics) Hey guys, got to see it again today on NH4. There could be a new safari coming in Feb 2011, but is certainly not this one. This is the face lifted safari having some added goddies. Could not resist to peep in while it was parked. Tail gate has been removed & fitted with a dummy cover. Features I believe must be similar to those of Aria's. Could see a blue lcd screen on the driver console with a big tata logo, seems to be dashbuilt navigator. Some kind of cushioning was fitted at the lower end of the bonnet. Which is probably giving it a squarish look. But atleast exteriors are absolutely same.
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DMehta BANNED Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 232 Thanked: 4 Times	Re: SCOOP Pics: Next Generation Tata Safari(Pg 8 for new pics) I always liked the tata safari. But, only from the outside. I just could not digest the interiors. I hope tata does some justice to the new safari. The interiors of Aria have totally blown me away. I hope the interiors of the new safari are as good as the aria.
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KALINGA BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: PUNE Posts: 724 Thanked: 374 Times	Re: SCOOP Pics: Next Generation Tata Safari(Pg 8 for new pics) Note from Mod: There are several spelling & grammatical errors in your posts. This negatively affects the board experience for other readers. Kindly ensure that you proof-read your posts prior to submission. Also, it would be a good idea to use spell-checkers. Last edited by GTO : 3rd January 2011 at 14:01.
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3rd January 2011, 12:32	#372
saildrive BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 181 Thanked: 50 Times	Re: SCOOP Pics: Next Generation Tata Safari(Pg 8 for new pics) Just returned from my trip to Goa, was driving Goa-Mumbai highway 1st Jan. Saw a car wider grill, covered matt black finish doing a test drive. It wasnt tall as the current Safari; drove right in front of me - there wasnt enough time to click a snap....
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8th January 2011, 14:35	#373
Naparajito BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 275 Thanked: 312 Times View My Garage	Re: SCOOP Pics: Next Generation Tata Safari(Pg 8 for new pics) Saw this land rover in bangalore in T.C number plate.
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8th January 2011, 21:53	#374
kaviprem BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Trichy Posts: 953 Thanked: 834 Times View My Garage	Re: SCOOP Pics: Next Generation Tata Safari(Pg 8 for new pics) ^^^^ The glass b/w the C & D pillar seems like a add-on. According to me, it doesnt go with rest of the design. Rest other views are awesome and really welcome to get this in Indian roads through Safari The rear glass style looks nice and few minor lines in different levels get this out of a simple box design [unlike Scorpio or Xylo].
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8th January 2011, 23:14	#375
shortbread Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: KL 7 Posts: 2,412 Thanked: 6,346 Times	Re: SCOOP Pics: Next Generation Tata Safari(Pg 8 for new pics) Land Rover will soon be getting rid of this platform and replacing the RR/RR Sport/Disco with an all new Aluminum chassis. The major weight saving will bring obvious benefits to both the cars performance and efficiency. This also means the existing platform will be done away with. Although not the newest design it still sets a benchmark for most global SUVs and is easily leagues ahead of what Indian cos. are churning out now or in the near future. What I am trying to say is that it should form an excellent base for future Tata UVs. Two obvious drawbacks are weight and production costs and perhaps Tata's R&D dept. will have to chip in here.
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