Free-Flow Exhausts - What do you NOT like about your car?

Surprise · 13th June 2006, 14:35

Many owners had written about the positives of their car/cars. let's hear about the negatives of their cars from the owners. i have a-

Swift:

a.I was very much disappointed with the rattling noises
b.I had choosen black color. requires lots of maitenance and scratches are clearly visible
c.back seats are not foldable

swale84 · 13th June 2006, 14:48

Nice thread surprise.
I have a ford Ikon 1.6, heres what it think the major drawbacks are:
1. REar visibility, that boot is too high
2. The brakes, just arent confidence inspiring.

otherwise i love driving the car!!!
suhail

drifter · 13th June 2006, 15:22

Accent CRDi

Pathetic stock tyres
Too much body roll
Steering wheel too skinny and large

Drifter

normally_crazy · 13th June 2006, 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surprise

b.I had choosen black color. requires lots of maitenance and scratches are clearly visible

Surprise,

Thats not a fault of the car

rks · 13th June 2006, 18:11

Santro ZipDrive (1 lit engine, 2000 model).

Dislikes are:

(1) Underpowered -- forced to switch off AC while climbing steep ghats, in order to get some performance. Not enough torque in 5th gear at speeds in excess of 100 kph -- top speed comes down even on mild upward slopes. When top speed comes down to about 110 kph or so on an upward slope, I sometimes shift to 4th gear and really whip the car to about 130 kph. But this is not good for the engine.

(2) Doesn't pull in 2nd gear with AC on at speeds below about 7 kph, and about 5 kph without AC. Irritating to have to switch to 1st gear while the vehicle is moving, sometimes quite awkward as the car revs up and jerks.

(3) Quite happy with the tough and durable stock Bridgestone S322 tyres, but still they make too much noise while cornering. Need to switch to alloys and tubeless for better performance and safety.

(4) Sometimes reverse gear is tough to engage and requires a couple of pumps on the clutch.

(5) The dummy pedal (foot-rest) to the left of the clutch can be quite irritating, as it sometimes interferes with proper depression of the clutch-- it is placed too close to the clutch, in my opinion. Takes some getting used to.

(6) The accelerator pedal seems to be awkwardly placed. I frequently find my right heel in line with the brake (after having used it) and have to reach out too far with my foot to hit the accelerator. Consequently, sometimes my foot gets entangled below the brake pedal in a sudden-brake situation. Have to consciously take care of this by moving the heel to be in line with the accelerator pedal while using it.

(7) AC is OK, but not too effective on a hot afternoon.

(8) Reverse view is bad. Need to use mirrors and often stick my head out of the window (both left and right).

(9) Edit: Ride is fairly rough on the back seat. Especially when I keep higher tyre pressures for highway drives.

Don't remember any more dislikes. Overall, I still love this car for its rugged, reliable and all-round performance both in city and highways.

Regards, rks

amit · 30th June 2006, 01:16

I think I missed this thread. Anyway, here is mine.

Car : Fiat Palio S10

1. Soft Brakes: This of course is a well known problem with Fiat's A178 platform cars.

2. Huge Turning Radius: Again a well documented problem. What I don't get is, why a Italian car maker has such a huge turning radius. I can understand this in a American car but the roads in Italy are even narrower then in India.

sidharth_j · 30th June 2006, 10:34

Well...here goes...

Car - Hyundai Getz GLS

dislikes:-

Rear visibility - very bad. Not a good car to reverse into parking spots/tight places.

Rear view mirror - too small

car is sluggish in the 1st,2nd gears

for a car thats 83bhp, it hardly seems faster than my m800, except when u really give it the beans :-(

CrAzY dRiVeR · 1st December 2007, 20:56

WagonR VXi.

Dislikes-

No rear power windows
My right leg touches the power window switch on the door, which causes pain during long runs.
Engine noise inside the cabin. Although the car is refined, there is a distinct engine whine heard. Which is audible with ac off.
Build quality and interiors could have been better.
Should have gone for the Swift. hehe. But, Not upgrading from WagonR to another small car soon. WagonR is good enough for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidharth_j

for a car thats 83bhp, it hardly seems faster than my m800, except when u really give it the beans :-(

theMAG · 1st December 2007, 21:59

I dislike that my Swift doesnt have the 1.6L VVT motor and that it is devoid of any built-in dash displays.

ajay mathew · 2nd December 2007, 14:30

Wow! so many things said but not even one about Cedia, well it's an amazing car for starters, but i hate on thing. It's got one touch control on in the downward direction and that too only for the drivers window, what a waste of time and effort

. Atleast they could have made it one touch for both up and down directions for drivers windows, But i would love it if all the windows were one touch.

I want to know what other Cedia owners think about this problem.

Other than that nothing else, a solid car overall.

RajaTaurus · 3rd December 2007, 14:22

Well, Ajay, that one touch up control is sometimes dangerous, unless you really have the pinch-preventer switch perfectly working. In My Camry, I tried with my finger and it worked perfect. In Mazda-6, it almost cut off my finger, as it needed more resistance to activate. So, better to keep that 'up' manual....

And, now that you asked for it, Here is what I don't like in Cedia..!!!
1. The Horn switch is too small and improperly located. I can hear you saying use-it-sparingly.. but, in Chennai, man, everything moves with the honking... Even cattles knew what to do when you honk... So, Can't do without it.
So, practically, I am driving with right-hand on the horn and left hand on the wheel rim most of the times...
Horn switch needs replacement, to make it reachable without taking your hand off the wheel rim.
2. The Blaupunkt stereo. The FM tuner jumps in 0.2 Mhz and I can't tune in 106.4, as it goes from 106.3 to 106.5 Mhz... (What a strange design. Why it can't tune with 0.1 increments..??)

ajay mathew · 3rd December 2007, 14:38

Yes the horn i forgot, no idea why mitsubishi thinks it very amusing to keep the horn right in the middle of the steering, it feels as if we are in a truck or some bus or something of that sort. The other thing that i didn't like is the alloy it looks to plain, When it's called a sports car why don't they give us better looking alloys ?

About the Audio system no comments because i got a kenwood and i changed it.

rchimni · 3rd December 2007, 14:56

The fact that even the front seat passenger can't stretch his legs in the Octavia !

Shan2nu · 3rd December 2007, 15:05

@ MODS : I think someone has changed the thread title. It's not free flow but free "flaw" (pun intended). Hehe

Shan2nu

manziee_crusier · 3rd December 2007, 15:17

Oh Shan2nu ..I was also thinking what happen to you...some mismatch btw title and post..

13th June 2006, 14:35	#76
Surprise Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,529 Thanked: 463 Times	Negatives About Your Car Many owners had written about the positives of their car/cars. let's hear about the negatives of their cars from the owners. i have a- Swift: a.I was very much disappointed with the rattling noises b.I had choosen black color. requires lots of maitenance and scratches are clearly visible c.back seats are not foldable
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13th June 2006, 14:48	#77
swale84 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 457 Thanked: 9 Times	Nice thread surprise. I have a ford Ikon 1.6, heres what it think the major drawbacks are: 1. REar visibility, that boot is too high 2. The brakes, just arent confidence inspiring. otherwise i love driving the car!!! suhail
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13th June 2006, 15:22	#78
drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,488 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	Accent CRDi Pathetic stock tyres Too much body roll Steering wheel too skinny and large Drifter
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13th June 2006, 18:11	#80
rks BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ?? Posts: 1,237 Thanked: 19 Times	Santro ZipDrive (1 lit engine, 2000 model). Dislikes are: (1) Underpowered -- forced to switch off AC while climbing steep ghats, in order to get some performance. Not enough torque in 5th gear at speeds in excess of 100 kph -- top speed comes down even on mild upward slopes. When top speed comes down to about 110 kph or so on an upward slope, I sometimes shift to 4th gear and really whip the car to about 130 kph. But this is not good for the engine. (2) Doesn't pull in 2nd gear with AC on at speeds below about 7 kph, and about 5 kph without AC. Irritating to have to switch to 1st gear while the vehicle is moving, sometimes quite awkward as the car revs up and jerks. (3) Quite happy with the tough and durable stock Bridgestone S322 tyres, but still they make too much noise while cornering. Need to switch to alloys and tubeless for better performance and safety. (4) Sometimes reverse gear is tough to engage and requires a couple of pumps on the clutch. (5) The dummy pedal (foot-rest) to the left of the clutch can be quite irritating, as it sometimes interferes with proper depression of the clutch-- it is placed too close to the clutch, in my opinion. Takes some getting used to. (6) The accelerator pedal seems to be awkwardly placed. I frequently find my right heel in line with the brake (after having used it) and have to reach out too far with my foot to hit the accelerator. Consequently, sometimes my foot gets entangled below the brake pedal in a sudden-brake situation. Have to consciously take care of this by moving the heel to be in line with the accelerator pedal while using it. (7) AC is OK, but not too effective on a hot afternoon. (8) Reverse view is bad. Need to use mirrors and often stick my head out of the window (both left and right). (9) Edit: Ride is fairly rough on the back seat. Especially when I keep higher tyre pressures for highway drives. Don't remember any more dislikes. Overall, I still love this car for its rugged, reliable and all-round performance both in city and highways. Regards, rks Last edited by rks : 13th June 2006 at 18:17.
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30th June 2006, 01:16	#81
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,712 Thanked: 451 Times	I think I missed this thread. Anyway, here is mine. Car : Fiat Palio S10 1. Soft Brakes: This of course is a well known problem with Fiat's A178 platform cars. 2. Huge Turning Radius: Again a well documented problem. What I don't get is, why a Italian car maker has such a huge turning radius. I can understand this in a American car but the roads in Italy are even narrower then in India.
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30th June 2006, 10:34	#82
sidharth_j BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney, AU Posts: 139 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	Well...here goes... Car - Hyundai Getz GLS dislikes:- Rear visibility - very bad. Not a good car to reverse into parking spots/tight places. Rear view mirror - too small car is sluggish in the 1st,2nd gears for a car thats 83bhp, it hardly seems faster than my m800, except when u really give it the beans :-(
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1st December 2007, 21:59	#84
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,196 Thanked: 1,821 Times View My Garage	I dislike that my Swift doesnt have the 1.6L VVT motor and that it is devoid of any built-in dash displays.
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2nd December 2007, 14:30	#85
ajay mathew BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	Cedia Wow! so many things said but not even one about Cedia, well it's an amazing car for starters, but i hate on thing. It's got one touch control on in the downward direction and that too only for the drivers window, what a waste of time and effort . Atleast they could have made it one touch for both up and down directions for drivers windows, But i would love it if all the windows were one touch. I want to know what other Cedia owners think about this problem. Other than that nothing else, a solid car overall.
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3rd December 2007, 14:22	#86
RajaTaurus Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tenkasi, TN Posts: 1,118 Thanked: 484 Times View My Garage	Well, Ajay, that one touch up control is sometimes dangerous, unless you really have the pinch-preventer switch perfectly working. In My Camry, I tried with my finger and it worked perfect. In Mazda-6, it almost cut off my finger, as it needed more resistance to activate. So, better to keep that 'up' manual.... And, now that you asked for it, Here is what I don't like in Cedia..!!! 1. The Horn switch is too small and improperly located. I can hear you saying use-it-sparingly.. but, in Chennai, man, everything moves with the honking... Even cattles knew what to do when you honk... So, Can't do without it. So, practically, I am driving with right-hand on the horn and left hand on the wheel rim most of the times... Horn switch needs replacement, to make it reachable without taking your hand off the wheel rim. 2. The Blaupunkt stereo. The FM tuner jumps in 0.2 Mhz and I can't tune in 106.4, as it goes from 106.3 to 106.5 Mhz... (What a strange design. Why it can't tune with 0.1 increments..??)
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3rd December 2007, 14:38	#87
ajay mathew BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	@Raj Yes the horn i forgot, no idea why mitsubishi thinks it very amusing to keep the horn right in the middle of the steering, it feels as if we are in a truck or some bus or something of that sort. The other thing that i didn't like is the alloy it looks to plain, When it's called a sports car why don't they give us better looking alloys ? About the Audio system no comments because i got a kenwood and i changed it.
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3rd December 2007, 14:56	#88
rchimni BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manila Posts: 136 Thanked: Once View My Garage	The fact that even the front seat passenger can't stretch his legs in the Octavia !
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3rd December 2007, 15:05	#89
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 127 Times View My Garage	@ MODS : I think someone has changed the thread title. It's not free flow but free "flaw" (pun intended). Hehe Shan2nu
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3rd December 2007, 15:17	#90
manziee_crusier BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 91 Thanked: 2 Times	Oh Shan2nu ..I was also thinking what happen to you...some mismatch btw title and post..
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