[gpa]

Wow! I never imagined that a Force India win would be debated to this extent. Looking at it as purely a sporting event, they (Force India) deserved the win. Like I said in the first post on Sunday post the race, they have come close to a points finish many times but have been horribly unlucky.

Whether the team is Indian or not has been much debated and perhaps another thread can be started on this as this is no longer relevant to the title of the thread.

[PAVAN KADAM]

Originally Posted by Gansan

Correction. That should have been "does not count as an Indian victory for me".

And I was talking about taking an Indian driver as an under study / test /reserve driver to gain experience. He need not have driven in the races. Come on, Narain was the Face of Indan F1, he should have found a place in the team in a reserve capacity. In what way would he have been inferior to Sutil?

Without Mr Vijay Mallya an "INDIAN" the team FORCE INDIA would have been a distant dream. In all counts its an INDIAN VICTORY

Instead of feeling happy lets not be sadists.

If Narain Karthikeyan was good, he would have found some place in the F1 scene. Why he's not ......? No where in F1 scene as on Date.

I feel this answers any doubts.

[Seeler_Rebeiro]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Ok. I am stupid. Do you have proof to say that the Miss Universe was rigged. Any documentary evidence or anything at all? Or even some evidence about the F1 podium by Force India? Or is it your own rambling and opinion?

I am sure you even doubt the Oscar won by AR Rehman.

Everyone has a right to his or own opinion. I think they deserved to win from what i saw. You think they won because its a conspiracy, live with it. Don't have to impose it on others.

My post about Miss Universe being won was my opinion i didn't say you had to accept it.

The truth is they won, you like it or not. It will go down in history as a first.

How come you know so much about media? Care to enlighten us. I will be thankful.

PS: You will find your calling in another thread - The Moon Landing Conspiracy. You will enjoy your time there.

Dear Spitfire, So, according to you, all for profit companies have Audits. But all for profit sports should not be questioned in your opinion ? You want evidence - spend some time in the real world.
Miss Universe rigged in Venezuela's favour: former Miss Brazil- ET Cetera-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times

This is of the very latest beauty pagent. And google and read many other posts and comments and you will realise that you are the exception who believes such contests are not rigged.

Now before you start hollering that you cannot compare a beauty pagent with a technical sport like F1,read this about last years possible rigging. And BTW, it is easier to rig a technical sport because lots can be hidden under technicalities and suddenly you will have contenders blow out an engine, use wrong tyres (oops) or crash etc... Start reading before you spit fire

Reports suggest probe into Formula One race-fixing allegations - Wikinews, the free news source

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Seeler_Rebeiro

Dear Spitfire, So, according to you, all for profit companies have Audits. But all for profit sports should not be questioned in your opinion ?

Ok so you don't like it and think these sports are rigged. Then why even bother passing opinions about it. Unless you want to preach about it.

You want evidence - spend some time in the real world.
Miss Universe rigged in Venezuela's favour: former Miss Brazil- ET Cetera-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times

GET REAL you say and then you give me a link of a participants mentor who failed to win. She could have called it rigged if anyone could have won. Why did she enter in the first place then.

This is of the very latest beauty pagent. And google and read many other posts and comments and you will realise that you are the exception who believes such contests are not rigged.

So if its on the net its true?

Now before you start hollering that you cannot compare a beauty
pagent with a technical sport like F1,read this about last years possible rigging. And BTW, it is easier to rig a technical sport because lots can be hidden under technicalities and suddenly you will have contenders blow out an engine, use wrong tyres (oops) or crash etc... Start reading before you spit fire

Reports suggest probe into Formula One race-fixing allegations - Wikinews, the free news source

LOL. So you think machines are perfect and cannot go wrong unless rigged?

[Gansan]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Ahh.... good enough. Thanks.

Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

Without Mr Vijay Mallya an "INDIAN" the team FORCE INDIA would have been a distant dream. In all counts its an INDIAN VICTORY

Instead of feeling happy lets not be sadists.

If Narain Karthikeyan was good, he would have found some place in the F1 scene. Why he's not ......? No where in F1 scene as on Date.

I feel this answers any doubts.

May I suggest that you guys read all my posts in this thread?

@Pavan, if not Narain, there are others.

[hrag]

Why don't we have pit girls for our track days?

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by hrag

Why don't we have pit girls for our track days?

We have track days by TBHP?

[amitoj]

Originally Posted by gpa

Whether the team is Indian or not has been much debated and perhaps another thread can be started on this as this is no longer relevant to the title of the thread.

I agree. And let us close the thread on a congratulatory note to Force India for coming a long way in a short time and doing their supporters proud. The naysayers, disbelievers and paranoid androids are free to start another thread to debate the "indianness" of the team.

Originally Posted by hrag

Why don't we have pit girls for our track days?

I'd like to be on the Selection Committee

[prince_pervez]

Originally Posted by amitoj

And let us close the thread

And spoil all the fun ? Naah! Lets continue but each one should stick their lips to themselves and not elsewhere. They look ugly down there.
Looks like some of the bird watchers were so busy ogling at girls, they missed the obvious.

[shyam.n10]

F O R C E I N D I A made us Indian F1 enthusiasts' proud not only by getting on to the podium but also sticking onto the KERS powered Ferrari of the ICEMAN. That's one bit to even think and they did it in style. Way to go guys...!

[suped99]

[quote=PAVAN KADAM;1462457]

If Narain Karthikeyan was good, he would have found some place in the F1 scene. Why he's not ......? No where in F1 scene as on Date.

I totally agree with this statement, also i think there are Many More drivers than Karthikieyan in India which have achieved much more than what he did at that young age. example : Armaan Ebrahim, Karun Chandok(they drive for India at A1[now thats an Indian team] and also drove at Formula BMW and Formula Renault) Akhil Kushlani(who is the first Indian to have a place in top 5 in World karting championship and also first Indian to come 3rd in Formula BMW,he is speculated to be the best of the young because of his achievements)
>you guys can Google and check for your self about these drivers if you dont believe me.

What iam trying to say is just that the Indian Formula1 scene does not just Start and End with Narian Karthikeyan. I think his time to shine is over, the young Indian Drivers should get into Force India !

[RacingForIndia]

Excellent turn of form for FI. Their aero package is superb. Of the remaining races I see them doing really well at Suzuka.

[sujaylahiri]

Vijay Mallya isn't the only Indian in the Force India team. They also have Balbir Singh, who was Michael Schumacher's ex-trainer and joined Force India last year as Fisichella's trainer. I think we should also give him some credit for Fisichella and Force India's podium.

Force India - Schumacher's magic goes to work at Force India

Motorsport.com: Photos channel

The Official Formula 1 Website
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