anybody interested in A1 GP?

khanak · 24th September 2005, 23:21

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Originally Posted by sridhar24

So far even iam disappointed looking at the times in the practice sessions, hope they have sorted out the issues with the car if they have any.
Just to remind all about the TV schedule for A1GP on Star sports:
Qualifying - 14:57
Sprint race - 17:57
Race - 19:27
Wish the team all the best.

the site says 43 minutes till the race starts and it 11:22. Somthings not right

mclaren1885 · 25th September 2005, 00:14

karun chandoks qualified 19th on the grid and wham wham adam khan from pak has qualified in 8th position..here is the qualifying positions for the sprint race:
A1 Team Driver Aggregate
1 Brazil Nelson Piquet Jr 2.30.789
2 New Zealand Matt Halliday 2.31.117
3 France Alexandre Premat 2.31.206
4 Australia Will Power 2.31.388
5 Great Britain Robbie Kerr 2.31.714
6 Switzerland Neel Jani 2.31.729
7 Mexico Salvador Duran 2.32.307
8 Pakistan Adam Khan 2.32.596
9 Malaysia Alex Yoong 2.32.632
10 Japan Ryo Fukuda 2.32.689
11 Portugal Alvaro Parente 2.32.705
12 Ireland Michael Devaney 2.32.811
13 Germany Timo Scheider 2.32.981
14 Netherlands Jos Verstappen 2.33.075
15 South Africa Stephen Simpson 2.33.086
16 Italy Enrico Toccacelo 2.33.232
17 USA Scott Speed 2.33.317
18 Indonesia Ananda Mikola 2.33.424
19 India Karun Chandhok 2.34.126
20 Czech Republic Jan Charouz 2.34.786
21 Canada Sean McIntosh 2.36.656
22 Austria Mathias Lauda 2.36.878
23 Lebanon Khalil Beschir 2.37.104
24 China Tengyi Jiang 2.38.750
25 Russia Alexey Vasiliev 2.41.303

Aditya · 25th September 2005, 07:27

In a totally unbiased view, three cheers to the Pakistani! He's beaten some well known guys in that list - Alex Yoong, Jos "The Boss" Verstappen. Well done Adam Khan!

25th September 2005, 14:25

What happened to Karun Chandok?! This could end his career; he better have a good excuse.

rahulmd · 26th September 2005, 19:05

A1 was supposed to give a lot more overtaking. I was quite surprised at how long it took Piquet Jr to overtake the Aussie Power and after he overtook he opened up a 10sec lead! That tells me that he was bottled behind Power unable to overtake!!! so much for the clean air easier to overtake funda!! maybe there is something more to it that Im missing.

Karun did quite well in the first sprint race where he came in 15th after starting 19th on the grid. one of 4-5 who made up places at the start. but unfortunately the car didnt get off the line for the featured race. but then he had elite company in the french team who were 2nd on the grid! But I think Brazil is going to be the team to watch!!!

overall, I think A1 GP is a well executed affair in terms of positioning and marketing. people are honest about it being a business venture first and everything else later. The media hype around the event here was quite a BIT. everyone was talking about A1 GP, even non motor sports fans. all the free papers had huge pullouts on A1.
lets see how they handle the second race at Eurospeed way in Germany. A1 is supposed to Complement F1 and take motorsports to new territories. lets also see how bernie sits through all this.

I had gone to watch the A1 GP at Brands Hatch yesterday. It was the first time I was seeing a race live. In terms of understanding whats going on, the TV is much better but then the sound and atmosphere of a live race is something else. so i put myself in a place near the track with a huge screen behind me and a pint of lager in my right hand. so it was the best of both worlds.

what really struck me during the whole thing was the traction control. i have heard steve slater and chris goodwin go on and on about the crackling of the traction control but could never really make it out on TV. at the track however, you cant mistake TC. its like firecracker going off!!!!

mclaren1885 · 26th September 2005, 20:22

now now...am i getting this wrong or have i missed something here..as far as i know there is no traction control on A1 cars..this was one of the ploys to make the racing more interesting and spectator amusing..correct me if im wrong..

Steeroid · 26th September 2005, 21:11

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Originally Posted by rahulmd

so i put myself in a place near the track with a huge screen behind me and a pint of lager in my right hand. so it was the best of both worlds.

Way to go, Rahul ol' boy!

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Originally Posted by rahulmd

what really struck me during the whole thing was the traction control. i have heard steve slater and chris goodwin go on and on about the crackling of the traction control but could never really make it out on TV. at the track however, you cant mistake TC. its like firecracker going off!!!!

I thought A1 didnt have TC???

gr8guzzler · 26th September 2005, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

I thought A1 didnt have TC???

I second that....A1 car does not have TC, maybe the sound Rahul heard was the powerboost (not too sure if it even makes a sound

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Steeroid · 27th September 2005, 00:37

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Originally Posted by gr8guzzler

I second that....A1 car does not have TC, maybe the sound Rahul heard was the powerboost (not too sure if it even makes a sound

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If he heard it at the corners it was probably the exhaust note of the engine deccelerating???...you get it from F1 cars too, if you're sitting near the corners (preferably before, since you cant hear the 'backfire' when they're accelerating out of corners)

Mpower · 27th September 2005, 06:24

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

If he heard it at the corners it was probably the exhaust note of the engine deccelerating???...

Spot on. They sound very rough when hard on the brakes. A decade ago they also used to spit out flames through the tailpipe but that has been kept under control.

rahulmd · 30th September 2005, 20:47

Interesting, it never registered in my head that they didnt have TC.

like steeroid has said, it must have been the exhaust note n deccelaration.

It sounded sort of like valves opening and the engine misfiring several times in a row, it went <phut phut phut phut phut>. Sort of like those long lasting firecrackers where you have a few hundred crackers one after the other (malapadakkam in malayalam), but only this one had only about half a dozen.

which is why I assumed it was TC.

now i have to watch silverstone next year to figure out what TC sounds like!!!

How does TC work anyway? Isnt it something like opening valves halfway through the firing cycle whenever there is a loss of traction between the tyre and the road?

Rtech · 1st October 2005, 10:03

Check out those HUGE ex-F1 slicks at the back. That's all the TC you need. I've heard that there is so much rear end grip, that drivers literally have to throw the car into the corner to overcome understeer.

Mpower · 13th October 2005, 22:20

Hey guys. Anybody watch the second race in Germany? Looks like interest is waned off already.

France takes the top spot in both and Neel Jani on the podium for one of the races.

KC still floundering in the back.

Badcheetah · 14th October 2005, 11:43

You are right , after watching the F1 race and the brillient racing and overtaking , the A1 race looked like kid stuff and even boring.
Lets hope KC gets his thing right , and hopefully we have some better result in the next race .

gchandra · 15th October 2005, 22:20

Next one is on Oct 23, 2005 unfortunately i missed the 1st 2 ones . Does Star Sports show it (i guess thats the channel that should show) since that where i see F1. I even saw an ad which said that they will show, but forgot the times :-(
Do they repeat ?

25th September 2005, 00:14	#32
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	karun chandoks qualified 19th on the grid and wham wham adam khan from pak has qualified in 8th position..here is the qualifying positions for the sprint race: A1 Team Driver Aggregate 1 Brazil Nelson Piquet Jr 2.30.789 2 New Zealand Matt Halliday 2.31.117 3 France Alexandre Premat 2.31.206 4 Australia Will Power 2.31.388 5 Great Britain Robbie Kerr 2.31.714 6 Switzerland Neel Jani 2.31.729 7 Mexico Salvador Duran 2.32.307 8 Pakistan Adam Khan 2.32.596 9 Malaysia Alex Yoong 2.32.632 10 Japan Ryo Fukuda 2.32.689 11 Portugal Alvaro Parente 2.32.705 12 Ireland Michael Devaney 2.32.811 13 Germany Timo Scheider 2.32.981 14 Netherlands Jos Verstappen 2.33.075 15 South Africa Stephen Simpson 2.33.086 16 Italy Enrico Toccacelo 2.33.232 17 USA Scott Speed 2.33.317 18 Indonesia Ananda Mikola 2.33.424 19 India Karun Chandhok 2.34.126 20 Czech Republic Jan Charouz 2.34.786 21 Canada Sean McIntosh 2.36.656 22 Austria Mathias Lauda 2.36.878 23 Lebanon Khalil Beschir 2.37.104 24 China Tengyi Jiang 2.38.750 25 Russia Alexey Vasiliev 2.41.303
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25th September 2005, 07:27	#33
Aditya Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17,841 Thanked: 77,069 Times View My Garage	In a totally unbiased view, three cheers to the Pakistani! He's beaten some well known guys in that list - Alex Yoong, Jos "The Boss" Verstappen. Well done Adam Khan! Last edited by Aditya : 26th September 2005 at 22:16.
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25th September 2005, 14:25	#34
SuperSyn Posts: n/a	What happened to Karun Chandok?! This could end his career; he better have a good excuse.
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26th September 2005, 19:05	#35
rahulmd BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore, India Posts: 137 Thanked: 5 Times	A1 was supposed to give a lot more overtaking. I was quite surprised at how long it took Piquet Jr to overtake the Aussie Power and after he overtook he opened up a 10sec lead! That tells me that he was bottled behind Power unable to overtake!!! so much for the clean air easier to overtake funda!! maybe there is something more to it that Im missing. Karun did quite well in the first sprint race where he came in 15th after starting 19th on the grid. one of 4-5 who made up places at the start. but unfortunately the car didnt get off the line for the featured race. but then he had elite company in the french team who were 2nd on the grid! But I think Brazil is going to be the team to watch!!! overall, I think A1 GP is a well executed affair in terms of positioning and marketing. people are honest about it being a business venture first and everything else later. The media hype around the event here was quite a BIT. everyone was talking about A1 GP, even non motor sports fans. all the free papers had huge pullouts on A1. lets see how they handle the second race at Eurospeed way in Germany. A1 is supposed to Complement F1 and take motorsports to new territories. lets also see how bernie sits through all this. I had gone to watch the A1 GP at Brands Hatch yesterday. It was the first time I was seeing a race live. In terms of understanding whats going on, the TV is much better but then the sound and atmosphere of a live race is something else. so i put myself in a place near the track with a huge screen behind me and a pint of lager in my right hand. so it was the best of both worlds. what really struck me during the whole thing was the traction control. i have heard steve slater and chris goodwin go on and on about the crackling of the traction control but could never really make it out on TV. at the track however, you cant mistake TC. its like firecracker going off!!!!
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26th September 2005, 20:22	#36
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	now now...am i getting this wrong or have i missed something here..as far as i know there is no traction control on A1 cars..this was one of the ploys to make the racing more interesting and spectator amusing..correct me if im wrong..
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30th September 2005, 20:47	#41
rahulmd BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore, India Posts: 137 Thanked: 5 Times	Interesting, it never registered in my head that they didnt have TC. like steeroid has said, it must have been the exhaust note n deccelaration. It sounded sort of like valves opening and the engine misfiring several times in a row, it went <phut phut phut phut phut>. Sort of like those long lasting firecrackers where you have a few hundred crackers one after the other (malapadakkam in malayalam), but only this one had only about half a dozen. which is why I assumed it was TC. now i have to watch silverstone next year to figure out what TC sounds like!!! How does TC work anyway? Isnt it something like opening valves halfway through the firing cycle whenever there is a loss of traction between the tyre and the road?
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1st October 2005, 10:03	#42
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Check out those HUGE ex-F1 slicks at the back. That's all the TC you need. I've heard that there is so much rear end grip, that drivers literally have to throw the car into the corner to overcome understeer.
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13th October 2005, 22:20	#43
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Hey guys. Anybody watch the second race in Germany? Looks like interest is waned off already. France takes the top spot in both and Neel Jani on the podium for one of the races. KC still floundering in the back.
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14th October 2005, 11:43	#44
Badcheetah BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 123 Thanked: 3 Times	You are right , after watching the F1 race and the brillient racing and overtaking , the A1 race looked like kid stuff and even boring. Lets hope KC gets his thing right , and hopefully we have some better result in the next race .
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15th October 2005, 22:20	#45
gchandra BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hyderabad AP Posts: 54 Thanked: Once	Next one is on Oct 23, 2005 unfortunately i missed the 1st 2 ones . Does Star Sports show it (i guess thats the channel that should show) since that where i see F1. I even saw an ad which said that they will show, but forgot the times :-( Do they repeat ?
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