The DIESEL experience! Swift VDi

Jaggu · 11th April 2007, 10:40

some can term it as first issue in a brand new car!! OMG!! and all. reason why am kewl ill let you know soon..

You know the internal vanity lights right, well this one will come ON for a few secs when put in auto mode (door open, key remove etc)

once in a while only: let it be while engine running, ignition turning off, from engine run to stop (am not referring to the key being removed and light ON phenomenon here coz that is the way it is when on auto mode), sometimes even while flashing the high beam

so who all have already broke their heads coz of this? and what can be causing this?

ps: i know the reason and have to see how to resolve it later.

Jaggu · 11th April 2007, 12:39

hmm no replies yet eh!!

ok its coz of STATIC ELECTRICITY which we had discussed on some other thread!!!

Why i say so, well this happened on the first day, when i flashed the light. Then didn notice except next day when i reached office and was turning ignition off, light should come ON when key is removed and not when turning OFF. Light blinked and with the dimmer config, will stay on for few sec and then switch off and again switch ON when i remove the key.

Completely baffled by then and made a note for First service.

Yday evening stuck in traffic i touched the key and presto light flashed, could repeat again and again, then i thoght some issue with the key switch.

Then i tried touching the key ring (metal one) and presto there it comes on, and then i suddenly remembered the usual arc of lightning when i touch the door while getting out of the car EUREKA!!

If i discharge my body static and touch no problem with light, otherwise light will come ON.

So conclusion, static and i guess along with the immobilizer sensor in the key circuit OR the auto cabin light sensor is causing the phenomenon.

How to solve this, am sure ill have fun time explaining this to Maruti A.S.S lol

Cheers
Jaggu

ps: Any other Vdi owners facing this problem?

Rtech · 11th April 2007, 12:58

I guess you were really charged up about the new car eh!

DCEite · 11th April 2007, 13:08

Where are the pics Jaggu? We are eagerly waiting.

Vid6639 · 11th April 2007, 14:45

I really cant be ESD. the current is way too small to light up a bulb. it runs in thousands of volts but the current is not enough to drive. theres something else in the starter circuitry along with the touch thats causing this.

Have you discharged yourself completely and tried?

Jaggu · 11th April 2007, 15:17

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Originally Posted by vid6639

I really cant be ESD. the current is way too small to light up a bulb. it runs in thousands of volts but the current is not enough to drive. theres something else in the starter circuitry along with the touch thats causing this.

Have you discharged yourself completely and tried?

LMFAO i DIDNT mean to say ESD (electrostatic discharge) from my body lit the bulb!! rather it confuses the sensor to give the wrong signal to light the bulb.

and yes i did discharge myself of "ESD" and tried and no issues then

@RTech.. not me rather the bangalore climate along with wider tyre i suspect

nitrous · 11th April 2007, 15:53

Maybe Ur car is not grounded well!
And Jaggu, THE PICS!!

Vid6639 · 11th April 2007, 15:57

Quote:

So conclusion, static and i guess along with the immobilizer sensor in the key circuit OR the auto cabin light sensor is causing the phenomenon.

ah i see. oops my fault didnt read that line. I was wondering.

Jaggu · 11th April 2007, 16:10

@vid: yeah i know, even a first time for me

@nitrous: earthing seems fine, will be doing more investigations over the weekend

hell_rider · 11th April 2007, 17:15

congrats jaggu

. pics please as requested earlier.

and, should not your avtaar reflect your new ride ??? time for the ikon pic to go me thinks...wot say ????

Jaggu · 11th April 2007, 22:35

ESD is not the reason (rather partly the reason maybe if at all), remember phenomenon not happening when i touch the key after i discharge the ESD, i am wrong. its happening in spite of this, shake the key and light will switch ON.

I took a wooden pencil and moved the key and presto the lights switch ON!!

So its after all a faulty switch or loose wiring inside, point added to I service list and to maruti feedback form. And cabin light switch on OFF position.

avatar stays for now, hey i cant disown my ol lover that fast and pics guys will have to wait.

a) car is dirty
b) am still in office and no time :( so maybe ill take couple of shots from my sony and post tomorrow if possible
c) surprise on pic front also have to wait

nitrous · 11th April 2007, 22:47

Stop posting and go clean ur car for some nice pictures.

Jaggu · 12th April 2007, 10:34

car is still covered with muck 130 kms of it.. well i couldnt convince myself to wash the car in front of the office at 11 PM yesterday as advised by our lil Nitrous..

ol man please forgive me

2 snaps taken today morn..

presenting 'Snowhite' as christened by my wifee..

and alloys n new set of 195/65/14 Goodyear Eagle Ventura (Indonesia)

Vid6639 · 12th April 2007, 10:39

nice pics jaggu. the white does look good. we should meet sometime. Have you got all the tips for washing from rudraji.

deepak_ms · 12th April 2007, 10:42

hi Jaggu... congrats for the new car... it looks like Snow white as u have said...
waiting for the surprise ......

11th April 2007, 10:40	#46
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,321 Times	riddle for maruti!! some can term it as first issue in a brand new car!! OMG!! and all. reason why am kewl ill let you know soon.. You know the internal vanity lights right, well this one will come ON for a few secs when put in auto mode (door open, key remove etc) once in a while only: let it be while engine running, ignition turning off, from engine run to stop (am not referring to the key being removed and light ON phenomenon here coz that is the way it is when on auto mode), sometimes even while flashing the high beam so who all have already broke their heads coz of this? and what can be causing this? ps: i know the reason and have to see how to resolve it later.
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11th April 2007, 12:39	#47
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,321 Times	hmm no replies yet eh!! ok its coz of STATIC ELECTRICITY which we had discussed on some other thread!!! Why i say so, well this happened on the first day, when i flashed the light. Then didn notice except next day when i reached office and was turning ignition off, light should come ON when key is removed and not when turning OFF. Light blinked and with the dimmer config, will stay on for few sec and then switch off and again switch ON when i remove the key. Completely baffled by then and made a note for First service. Yday evening stuck in traffic i touched the key and presto light flashed, could repeat again and again, then i thoght some issue with the key switch. Then i tried touching the key ring (metal one) and presto there it comes on, and then i suddenly remembered the usual arc of lightning when i touch the door while getting out of the car EUREKA!! If i discharge my body static and touch no problem with light, otherwise light will come ON. So conclusion, static and i guess along with the immobilizer sensor in the key circuit OR the auto cabin light sensor is causing the phenomenon. How to solve this, am sure ill have fun time explaining this to Maruti A.S.S lol Cheers Jaggu ps: Any other Vdi owners facing this problem?
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11th April 2007, 12:58	#48
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,765 Thanked: 371 Times View My Garage	I guess you were really charged up about the new car eh!
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11th April 2007, 13:08	#49
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,591 Thanked: 3,502 Times	Where are the pics Jaggu? We are eagerly waiting.
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11th April 2007, 14:45	#50
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,692 Thanked: 44,183 Times View My Garage	I really cant be ESD. the current is way too small to light up a bulb. it runs in thousands of volts but the current is not enough to drive. theres something else in the starter circuitry along with the touch thats causing this. Have you discharged yourself completely and tried?
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11th April 2007, 15:53	#52
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,964 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	Maybe Ur car is not grounded well! And Jaggu, THE PICS!!
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11th April 2007, 16:10	#54
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,321 Times	@vid: yeah i know, even a first time for me @nitrous: earthing seems fine, will be doing more investigations over the weekend
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11th April 2007, 17:15	#55
hell_rider BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 538 Thanked: 61 Times	congrats jaggu . pics please as requested earlier. and, should not your avtaar reflect your new ride ??? time for the ikon pic to go me thinks...wot say ????
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11th April 2007, 22:35	#56
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,321 Times	oops all my theories went down the drain... ESD is not the reason (rather partly the reason maybe if at all), remember phenomenon not happening when i touch the key after i discharge the ESD, i am wrong. its happening in spite of this, shake the key and light will switch ON. I took a wooden pencil and moved the key and presto the lights switch ON!! So its after all a faulty switch or loose wiring inside, point added to I service list and to maruti feedback form. And cabin light switch on OFF position. avatar stays for now, hey i cant disown my ol lover that fast and pics guys will have to wait. a) car is dirty b) am still in office and no time :( so maybe ill take couple of shots from my sony and post tomorrow if possible c) surprise on pic front also have to wait Last edited by Jaggu : 11th April 2007 at 22:39. Reason: replying to questions :)
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11th April 2007, 22:47	#57
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,964 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	Stop posting and go clean ur car for some nice pictures.
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12th April 2007, 10:34	#58
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,321 Times	pics... pics.. pics.. car is still covered with muck 130 kms of it.. well i couldnt convince myself to wash the car in front of the office at 11 PM yesterday as advised by our lil Nitrous.. ol man please forgive me 2 snaps taken today morn.. presenting 'Snowhite' as christened by my wifee.. and alloys n new set of 195/65/14 Goodyear Eagle Ventura (Indonesia)
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12th April 2007, 10:39	#59
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,692 Thanked: 44,183 Times View My Garage	nice pics jaggu. the white does look good. we should meet sometime. Have you got all the tips for washing from rudraji.
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12th April 2007, 10:42	#60
deepak_ms BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: KA55 / KA50 Posts: 195 Thanked: 6 Times	hi Jaggu... congrats for the new car... it looks like Snow white as u have said... waiting for the surprise ......
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