[JUDA]

Had experienced this sometime back so thought of sharing this with you'll anyone else done this?

Anyways this was on a straight Pune-Bangalore highway early in the morning-5ish.

Accelerator was not flat out, this was at 3.8-4k RPM.

Full story later when I have time to type......

Back to work now.

Cheers!

J-U-D-A

[Rahulk76]

Originally Posted by JUDA

Had experienced this sometime back so thought of sharing this with you'll anyone else done this?

Anyways this was on a straight Pune-Bangalore highway early in the morning-5ish.

Accelerator was not flat out, this was at 3.8-4k RPM.

Full story later when I have time to type......

Back to work now.

Cheers!

J-U-D-A

Juda,

No offence....but Its ODO error . Seems like its badly caliberated.
2.2 max geared speed is 160kmph (as per manual if i remember correctly)
True speed definetly will be lesser.

Thnx
Rahul

[dadu]

Pre-Monsoon Checkup

Had gone for the pre-monsoon checkup today and wanted them to check the follwing, apart from their routine general checkup:

- Clutch adjustment
- handbrake tighten
- Windshield wiper water tank leakage

The Safari was given back to me by 1:00 PM with the following things done:

- General checkup done
- Battery cells acidity check done and topped.
- Clutch Adjusted
- Handbrake tightened
- Suspension bolts checked and tightened.
- Timing belt tension checked and tightened
- Windshield water tank found leaking : No spare, Spare ordered
- Vehicle washing and greasing done

Cost:FOC

[jkdas]

Originally Posted by dadu

Pre-Monsoon Checkup

Had gone for the pre-monsoon checkup today and wanted them to check the follwing, apart from their routine general checkup:

- Clutch adjustment
- handbrake tighten
- Windshield wiper water tank leakage

The Safari was given back to me by 1:00 PM with the following things done:

- General checkup done
- Battery cells acidity check done and topped. [Maintenance free right?]
- Clutch Adjusted
- Handbrake tightened
- Suspension bolts checked and tightened. [Why? ]
- Timing belt tension checked and tightened [ Why?]
- Windshield water tank found leaking : No spare, Spare ordered
- Vehicle washing and greasing done

Cost:FOC

What your odo reading? And what made you check these?

[dadu]

ODO reads 5900 apprx.

Battery is maintenance free but if you read its manual, you still need to get it checked and thats what they check it for, it was done as part of their checkup, I didnt ask for it.

The only thing I usually will get checked is the clutch and brakes.

Clutch, as it needs more adjustments during its first year(due to wear & tear) and these keep it healthy, longer life.

Brakes, as they are your safety.

Although they checked the bolts themselves but for the first year, one should get them checked/tightened as they tend to loosen up.

Rest all was routine checkup.

Originally Posted by jkdas

What your odo reading? And what made you check these?

[vividisha]

hi Guys,

Update on the problem I faced - reported on 16th June on this thread -

had the autocop checked, batteries , connections as suggested by Dadu, SUV.

The problem was that there were loose connections which had the battery draining out even while the vehicle was grounded. They corrected those and said that the leakage was so much, that even the dynamo could not charge the batteries. :-(

nyways, the manipal guys corrected that and charged up the batteries as well. had to shell out 750 bucks - 450 for the 24 hour helpline visit and the rest for charging up the battery. Got a wash complimentary :-)

Thanks for all with their suggestions.

[dadu]

The water tank was replaced long time back under warranty but it was too small an update to mention here.

As TSK has confirmed that the Krrr sound is not present in his Safari, need to check with some other 2WD's as his is a 4WD, before concluding and then ask the A.S.S to correct the initial batches.

But the problem is that A.S.S wont understand it, till they are shown the difference. I will need some help from new owners of Safari here (If this is concluded).

Originally Posted by dadu

Now thats its pointing towards the wastegate actuator, my Question is "how to resolve it ??"

Best thing to do is to collect all the information regarding the 2.2l's facing it and send it to TM in one correspondance, asking for a solution and rectification.

[kingshukt]

Originally Posted by dadu

The water tank was replaced long time back under warranty but it was too small an update to mention here.

What was the problem with the water tank?
I found that the water in the tank evaporates quite fast if left out in the summer sun.

[dadu]

It started leaking from somewhere along the metal plate holder and the tank clamping. I knew since the water level receded till the clamp and stayed, within 3-4 days of top up.

Check on the body below, the water leaves a mark (if you have the windshield cleaning fluid added). It might be a case of hairline crack.

Originally Posted by kingshukt

What was the problem with the water tank?
I found that the water in the tank evaporates quite fast if left out in the summer sun.

[kingshukt]

Originally Posted by dadu

It started leaking from somewhere along the metal plate holder and the tank clamping. I knew since the water level receded till the clamp and stayed, within 3-4 days of top up.

Check on the body below, the water leaves a mark (if you have the windshield cleaning fluid added). It might be a case of hairline crack.

In my case the water level used to drop down to the minimum (in the summers) and yes, it used to leave a water mark on the body below (I use left over of shampoo as windshield cleaning additive).

I then found that the pipes which carry the water to the spray nozzles comes off - the shampoo make the water slippery, though it cleans the windshield well - so I put a clip on both the pipes.

Now there is no leakage but the water level drops

[smsrini]

I faced a problem of the windshield water draining out, if I operated the rear glass wash/wipe. Found that when i operated it, the pipe used to come off. got it fixed at the A.S.S, and havent faced any issues thereafter.

On the water level coming down, could it be due to the heat in the engine bay near the water tank ?

[kingshukt]

Originally Posted by smsrini

On the water level coming down, could it be due to the heat in the engine bay near the water tank ?

That seems to be only conclusion that i could draw. However it is poor designing by TM if correct.

[JUDA]

Originally Posted by Rahulk76

Juda,

No offence....but Its ODO error . Seems like its badly caliberated.
2.2 max geared speed is 160kmph (as per manual if i remember correctly)
True speed definetly will be lesser.

Thnx
Rahul

Thanks Rahul but I checked this out with a Tata Motors expert who worked on 3Lit and also has supervised the 2.2 engine bought by Tatas. The engine has been capped to not go over 180Km/hr he said the engine do beyond 200Km without doubt only for the ECU programming.

Cmon Rahul buy the 2.2 I know you love the Safari.......

[smsrini]

Hey, Juda,

- Do you also experience the 'Krrr' noise under sudden acceleration that's being discussed ?

- Can your source in Tata, help us resolve this ?

thanks

[dadu]

I am a bit hesitant to accept this as a reason since if the heat is getting so high it will effect other fluids also in the engine bay. Shouldnt the coolant in the radiator also evaporate to some extent then.

Fill the water to the brim on a friday night and then check in the morning (better if it doesnt run over the weekend), then check again before any running. If level goes down there has to be some leakage somewhere, IMO.

Originally Posted by kingshukt

That seems to be only conclusion that i could draw. However it is poor designing by TM if correct.

Your help will be much appreciated.

Originally Posted by JUDA

Thanks Rahul but I checked this out with a Tata Motors expert who worked on 3Lit and also has supervised the 2.2 engine bought by Tatas. The engine has been capped to not go over 180Km/hr he said the engine do beyond 200Km without doubt only for the ECU programming.

Cmon Rahul buy the 2.2 I know you love the Safari.......

But first we need to check with some new owners of Safari 2.2 2WD if they also dont get the "Krrrr" noise. If they do then its the same thing and probably some things are changed only for the 4WD.

Originally Posted by smsrini

Hey, Juda,

- Do you also experience the 'Krrr' noise under sudden acceleration that's being discussed ?

- Can your source in Tata, help us resolve this ?

thanks