[jaysmokesleaves]

I had a shunt while reversing recently where i rammed into a stationery 'haathgaadi' resulting in a dent on my dicky door. Went to the service guy to find out what it would cost to fix the dent & paint. I did not get a clear reply, instead he recommended that the best thing would be to accumulate a few more dents and claim insurance for all the work and the parts.

[SUV]

Originally Posted by suman

I'm wondering if this is turning into a Safari bashing thread, because I cannot fathom what the "aggregate" of the spare part costs prove?

It proves that Owning a Sedan is cheaper than a SUV ......

[suman]

Originally Posted by SUV

It proves that Owning a Sedan is cheaper than a SUV ......

Spot on in fact, nothing "less" will do!

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by suman

This is a meaningless comparison because one needs to see the replacement interval as well. Also, please do not post incorrect data, your figures are not correct. My Safari had a fuel filter change at 30,000 kms (which is the recommended interval) & the cost was Rs 2,163 including taxes.

I'm wondering if this is turning into a Safari bashing thread, because I cannot fathom what the "aggregate" of the spare part costs prove?

i think you got me wrong. i dont believe in bashing any particular vehicle because i dont gain anything from that. has anyone said that mahindra pays me for this?
i have no idea about the service costs you face, but i posted the figures from a reliable source (autocar india).
i understand that we have to consider the replacement interval but then that is applicable for each and every vehicle.
i posted the figures beacuse Mr. power ranger requested someone to do so. and again the aggregate was not as a comparison or to "bash" the safari, as you may have thought. since this was a thread about spares, i just quoted the figures of innova and scorpio too. i understand you are a safari fan, so very sorry if my post offended you, but my intentions were not what you thought. cheers:

[suman]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

i have no idea about the service costs you face, but i posted the figures from a reliable source (autocar india).
since this was a thread about spares, i just quoted the figures of innova and scorpio too. i understand you are a safari fan, so very sorry if my post offended you, but my intentions were not what you thought. cheers:

For all you know, the Scorpio & Innova ones may be incorrect as well - only you & an Innova owner would know for sure. I refrain from posting data unless I'm sure of what I'm saying. Magazine data is always open to inconsistencies & inaccuracies.

No offense taken whatsoever, I just wanted to point out that it wasn't the correct data.

OT: Raj, I wasn't born a Safari fan - in fact, if you delve into the forum, you'll find that I was an open critic of the 3.0 litre Dicor & its niggles (which was based on Steeroid & Nitin Bhag & a one other members experiences). However, at the point in time when I had to make a choice, it was the only VFM in that price range that had Safety (ABS, EBD & Airbags), Comfort (Leather upholstery & middle row comfort per se), Road Presence & 4X4 all combined. So that's why I went for the Safari VX 3.0 litre 4X4. I haven't had to face "tacky" plastics falling off etc. Simply unbeatable & if you read my ownership thread, you'll know that I haven't had to spend much on maintenance or spares.There is always the 4 year warranty over & above everything else.

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by suman

For all you know, the Scorpio & Innova ones may be incorrect as well - only you & an Innova owner would know for sure. I refrain from posting data unless I'm sure of what I'm saying. Magazine data is always open to inconsistencies & inaccuracies.

No offense taken whatsoever, I just wanted to point out that it wasn't the correct data.

OT: Raj, I wasn't born a Safari fan - in fact, if you delve into the forum, you'll find that I was an open critic of the 3.0 litre Dicor & its niggles (which was based on Steeroid & Nitin Bhag & a one other members experiences). However, at the point in time when I had to make a choice, it was the only VFM in that price range that had Safety (ABS, EBD & Airbags), Comfort (Leather upholstery & middle row comfort per se), Road Presence & 4X4 all combined. So that's why I went for the Safari VX 3.0 litre 4X4. Simply unbeatable & if you read my ownership thread, you'll know that I haven't had to spend much on maintenance or spares. There is always the 4 year warranty over & above everything else.

we have the innova as well, and the figures given for the innova and scorpio are quite accurate with only a minor deviation, of course it depends on the city and sercice centre i think...

even i was not born as a scorpio fan suman! even i do accept the niggles and fault of a scorpio or innova.
also, since when did the safari offer EBD???

[suman]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

also, since when did the safari offer EBD???

It was always there in the top-end variant - the VX comes with ABS, EBD & Airbags

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by suman

It was always there in the top-end variant - the VX comes with ABS, EBD & Airbags

is it mentioned in the manual/brochure or have you heard about it?

[suman]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

is it mentioned in the manual/brochure or have you heard about it?

Huh? I've heard about it & read about it & I own the VX & yes, its mentioned in the Manual.

Why do you find this so surprising? I am yet to hear of any SUV (other than the M Hawk) which has ABS but no EBD. Seriously.

PS: IIRC, its mentioned on the Safari site as well under the "Safety" section.........(in case you are still having doubts)

[raj_5004]

yes, i find it a bit suprising. but you as a owner may be knowing that.
kudos to TATA if it does...

[suman]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

yes, i find it a bit suprising. but you as a owner may be knowing that.
kudos to TATA if it does...

But I don't get it - why is it surprising? EBD is Electronic Brakeforce Distribution - don't you think it would be an essential safety feature to ensure proper distribution of braking between front & rear wheels? In conjunction with ABS, it enhances the safety.

The Safari has it, the Endeavour has it, the Nissan X trail has it, I think the GV & CRV & Captiva have it. Are you sure M Hawk doesn't have it? If not, I really can't figure out why not.

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by suman

But I don't get it - why is it surprising? EBD is Electronic Brakeforce Distribution - don't you think it would be an essential safety feature to ensure proper distribution of braking between front & rear wheels? In conjunction with ABS, it enhances the safety.

The Safari has it, the Endeavour has it, the Nissan X trail has it, I think the GV & CRV & Captiva have it. Are you sure M Hawk doesn't have it? If not, I really can't figure out why not.

i am finding it suprising bacause i dint expect TATA to provide EBD, really!
also, i know what EBD is, i am an automobile engineer!
and in your earlier post you confidently told me that the mHawk is the only SUV which does not have EBD and now you are asking me the same, why?

[suman]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

and in your earlier post you confidently told me that the mHawk is the only SUV which does not have EBD and now you are asking me the same, why?

I confidently told you because you mentioned in your ownership thread that it has ABS only.

I'm now asking you if you're sure. But I guess you are, right?

But you still haven't answered my question on why it is surprising that EBD is available on a 11 lac plus SUV which has ABS? TATA were providing ABS, EBD & Airbags on the top end Safari way way back (from their Petrol VX days) - perhaps you just weren't aware of it.

Anyway, PM me if you want to take this discussion further because we are deviating from the thread topic which was about cost of spares

[Jr Godzilla]

dear raj and suman you'll can pm each other if it is a different subject other than the cost of spares for safari.

I am keen to get some info thru this thread on pricing of spares / labour cost for safari. This thread can give me the insight on future maintenace costs IF i go for a safari.

[simply_sunny001]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

i am finding it suprising bacause i dint expect TATA to provide EBD, really!

Something wrong with your expectations then.Maybe they are set Mahindra style by default,LOL

Originally Posted by raj_5004

also, i know what EBD is, i am an automobile engineer!

Being an auto engineer,you should know that in contemporary automotive world,nobody gives ABS without EBD.

Infact you cannot take full advantage of ABS without EBD.


Now please lets try to compile a list of spares with their accurate prices.

I would suggest people should find out their bills and post the parts/prices to have an accurate listing.