[acedriver_9000]

Hi,
I'm planning to buy a BMW x5 and have booked 30d Msport. But now I'm in dilemma whether to change it to 40i.

My main reasons for going with 30d are:
1. GTO's 530d thread and his appreciation for the engine. GTO says that german cars are better with diesels.
2. I'm quite fuel efficiency conscious person. And my idea is even if I drive a diesel spiritedly, I'll get healthy fuel economy figures. But if its a petrol, in the long run I might not enjoy it that much. My usage will be around 12-15k kms/yr.
3. Resale value. I live in south India and diesels are preferred here.
4. Also I feel 30d engine is a better choice for x5 type of car.

While my apprehensions with the 30d engine are:
1. I'm a car guy and I enjoy driving a lot.
2. The car will be self- driven. So heard that 40i is more fun to drive. No 40i test drive vehicle available at showroom.
3. Refinement. Diesel TD vehicle at showroom had slight vibrations when idle indicating that engine was on. That may not be the case with petrol.
4. Possibility of extension of delhi's 10-yr rule to other cities. Then resale value would plummet.

Experienced bhpians please share your views.

[vishnu918790]

Originally Posted by Karjun

Audi Kochi, they have been nothing but extremely hospitable during the purchase process and gave great discounts and a few accessories after a bit of back n forth negotiations .

I am also based in Kerala. I have been negotiating with Audi Kochi but I have not been successful obtaining a discount above 2L (OTR) for the Technology with Matrix LED variant of the Q7. What was the amount of discount you were able to obtain?

[Sohail_91]

Dear BHPians,

I’m in the market for a luxury diesel SUV, primarily for long highway drives as I plan to explore India’s diverse landscapes.
Comfort, performance, and long-term reliability are key, as I’ll be covering thousands of kilometers.
Additionally, my parents, who are in their late 50s, will be accompanying me on some of these trips, so backseat comfort is equally important.

I’ve taken a few extensive test drives (~40 km each) with my mom, and here are our experiences with each vehicle:

BMW X5 xDrive30d M Sport Diesel
Performance: Adequate, though it didn’t deliver the adrenaline rush I was expecting when pressing the accelerator.
Handling: Despite its size, the car was easy to handle, and the steering felt light, especially in Comfort Mode.
Comfort: My mom was particularly impressed with the backseat comfort, and the overall ride quality was excellent.

MB GLE 450 4MATIC Petrol
Performance: The car is a monster, took off like a bullet with just a gentle tap on the accelerator.
Handling: This car had the best handling among all the ones I drove—very agile and easy to maneuver.
Comfort: According to my mom, the backseat comfort was on par with the X5, but I found the ride quality to be even more plush.

Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE 2.0 Petrol
Performance: The slowest among the cars I drove, which is expected given its smaller engine size.
Handling: It was easy to handle, offering the best visibility thanks to its elevated ride height.
Comfort: My mom really appreciated the comfort and visibility in the Defender. While the ride quality surpassed that of the X5, it fell short compared to the GLE.

Note: The dealership only had petrol test drive vehicles available for the GLE and Defender.

Pricing as of October'24
BMW X5 xDrive30d M Sport Diesel
On-Road Bangalore : 1.27 CR
Discount : 9.75 Lakh on Ex-Showroom

MB GLE 450d 4MATIC Diesel
On-Road Bangalore : 1.42 CR
Discount : Nil

Defender 110 X 3.0 Diesel
On-Road Bangalore : 1.73 CR
Discount : ~3 Lakh on On-Road Price

I look forward to your help and suggestions, TBHP Family, as I navigate my decision based on your experiences and expertise. If any members have driven the diesel variants of these vehicles, I’d love to know which one feels the most powerful. Additionally, current owners can share valuable insights regarding reliability and their overall ownership experience.

Are there any other cars I should consider based on my requirements?

Thanks in Advance
Sohail

[ajmat]

I think the GLE ticks all the boxes but would it be worth Rs 21 lakhs more?

[Sohail_91]

Originally Posted by ajmat

I think the GLE ticks al the boxes but would it be worth Rs 21 lakhs more?

Even I’m leaning towards the GLE, as it is the most powerful of the three and offers superior comfort. I also really enjoyed the showroom experience and interaction with the SA at Mercedes-Benz. It felt like MB is more focused on enhancing the customer experience rather than pushing for a sale.

The only downside is the price difference compared to the X5. The GLE 450d doesn’t have any discounts, apart from a ₹1 lakh corporate benefit, and the SA mentioned there won’t be any additional discounts anytime soon.

[ssateesh]

Originally Posted by Sohail_91

Dear BHPians,

I’m in the market for a luxury diesel SUV, primarily for long highway drives as I plan to explore India’s diverse landscapes.

Are you not open to petrols at all? At this budget I am assuming running costs is not a primary consideration.

[Sohail_91]

Originally Posted by ssateesh

Are you not open to petrols at all? At this budget I am assuming running costs is not a primary consideration.

Hi Sateesh, I want to experience owning and driving a diesel car while I still can. With the current government policies, I’m uncertain how long diesel vehicles will continue to be available for sale in India.

[veyron_head]

I didnt want to start a new thread on this but need some quick advice. I am torn between a Dec 2021 Jeep compass petrol S(O) variant and a Dec 2017 Audi Q3 diesel technology pack, both on spinny.

I had set my eyes on buying a compass and i only visited spinny to look for automatic (mandatory and primary reason to buy) compass and nearly zeroed down on this 21 compass but then test drove the Q3 standing next to it and my mind = blown. Just so you know, i am upgrading from a diesel ecosport.

Compass :
+ Looks brand new.
+top most variant. Has all the bells and whistles i would ever need.
+Only 18k.driven.
- Its petrol. Avg fuel efficiency shown on the car was 5.7 Km/l!!!
- Steering was rather tight and hard to maneuver.

Q3:
+ its 2017 car but was such a breeze to drive. Drove this right after i drove the compass and the difference was palpable.
+ Reasonably feature loaded.
+ Seems really well maintained. Couldnt spot even a scratch on the entire car. Definitely did not drive like 2017 car. It was butter smooth.
- When i braked even mildly there was this hard creaking noise (suspension?)
- No touch screen system. No android auto, none of the conveniences that are so common today.
- 48k driven.
-Unknown maintenance cost. For someone like me coming from a really cheap to maintain car like ecosport, this is particularly worrying.

My heart is actually set on the q3 but quite concerned about the reliability and upkeep on this car. Any suggestions would be really appreciated.

[createrkid]

Originally Posted by veyron_head

I didnt want to start a new thread on this but need some quick advice. I am torn between a Dec 2021 Jeep compass petrol S(O) variant and a Dec 2017 Audi Q3 diesel technology pack, both on spinny.

I had set my eyes on buying a compass and i only visited spinny to look for automatic (mandatory and primary reason to buy) compass and nearly zeroed down on this 21 compass but then test drove the Q3 standing next to it and my mind = blown. Just so you know, i am upgrading from a diesel ecosport.

Compass :
+ Looks brand new.
+top most variant. Has all the bells and whistles i would ever need.
+Only 18k.driven.
- Its petrol. Avg fuel efficiency shown on the car was 5.7 Km/l!!!
- Steering was rather tight and hard to maneuver.

Q3:
+ its 2017 car but was such a breeze to drive. Drove this right after i drove the compass and the difference was palpable.
+ Reasonably feature loaded.
+ Seems really well maintained. Couldnt spot even a scratch on the entire car. Definitely did not drive like 2017 car. It was butter smooth.
- When i braked even mildly there was this hard creaking noise (suspension?)
- No touch screen system. No android auto, none of the conveniences that are so common today.
- 48k driven.
-Unknown maintenance cost. For someone like me coming from a really cheap to maintain car like ecosport, this is particularly worrying.

My heart is actually set on the q3 but quite concerned about the reliability and upkeep on this car. Any suggestions would be really appreciated.

Get the Q3, set aside a lakh for annual maintenance. It will probably be lower. You'll enjoy it more than the compass since it looks like your heart is already set on the audi.

[ssateesh]

Originally Posted by createrkid

Get the Q3, set aside a lakh for annual maintenance. It will probably be lower. You'll enjoy it more than the compass since it looks like your heart is already set on the audi.

This estimate is nowhere near.

For Q3 as per Audi's own service calculator
https://myaudi.in/en/pages/213#ServiceCostCalculator

Year 7 - 24K
Year 8 - 67K
Year 9 - Would be either 27K or 41K

All these inclusive of GST

[dr.skt]

Originally Posted by veyron_head

My heart is actually set on the q3 but quite concerned about the reliability and upkeep on this car. Any suggestions would be really appreciated.

I have had an Audi Q3 technology diesel 2017 model. I had it for 2 years and didn't face any issues with the car. I got it serviced annually and if i could remove all the unrequired sunroof cleaning, alloy cleaning, wheels cleaning etc., i could get down general service cost around 20-25k annually apart from which there was no other expense.

Car mileage on sedate driving was easily 12-13 kmpl in my city with AC always on.


I had checked out Jeep Compass model S (which comes with digital speedo / 360 camera etc.) and Compass is surely one of the best looking SUVs in market in my opinion.

In my perspective, you would get all sort of modern features in Compass such as carplay/android auto, 360 camera, ventilated seats, digital instrument cluster etc., however if you heart is set on Audi Q3, i would suggest you to go for it as it would probably take you in a whole new direction of ownership of cars in future once you get used to it.

Audi Q3 has 360 parking sensors & rear camera which was always more than trustworthy and adequate for my parking needs everywhere i drove it.
For music and navigation, i used my smartphone with google maps, Amazon music / youtube music through bluetooth. I didn't really feel the lack of carplay / android auto. Even my Audi Q7 currently doesn't have carplay / android auto


Go with your heart.

[kishankotecha]

Hey Guys!

I am currently looking to buy an SUV, replacing my BMW X5 30d DPE F15 (5 seater). Looking for a comfortable, safe and durable SUV in the same segment. Currently considering Mercedes GLE 300d, Audi Q7 and Volvo XC90. Don't have much preference for the latest and greatest (in fact I lean more for tried and tested), just have preference for the above mentioned points, and a slight preference for ventilated seats and good music system.

I have test driven the Q7 and the GLE, liked them both, still waiting to test drive the XC90. I am yet to receive commercial offers from the dealers however I expect things to sway away from GLE (as has always been my experience with Mercedes).

Would appreciate if people on this forum can share their experiences and suggestions, especially with respect to reliability and comfort.

Thanks in advance!