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Old 21st September 2024, 14:08   #1396
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Re: Buying & Using a Pressure Washer

Need suggestions from Gurus regarding buying a pressure washer for my dairy farm. Currently we use a normal water pump to clean the floor and the rubber mats. On top of that we have to use a brush to scrub the mats clean. I am assuming a pressure washer should remove the need of scrubbing the mats and also save a lot of water. Usage will be anywhere between 1-2 hrs everyday. Also another thing which sort of worries me regarding pressure loss is that the outlet pipe will need to be very long (at least 30m or maybe longer) as the washer unit has to be stationary and installed in the water room of my cow shed.
Don't want to spend too much considering the hose itself will also cost a lot.Of course it would help that the manufacturer provides spares and parts quickly and affordably. Lastly, does buying an attachment like Patio cleaner really help. I am assuming even the cheap washers come with Auto-off switch, but if not, then that's a necessary requirement as well.

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Need suggestions from Gurus regarding buying a pressure washer for my dairy farm. Currently we use a normal water pump to clean the floor and the rubber mats. On top of that we have to use a brush to scrub the mats clean. I am assuming a pressure washer should remove the need of scrubbing the mats and also save a lot of water. Usage will be anywhere between 1-2 hrs everyday. .
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For your use, the standard washers used for washing cars are not going to be sufficient. You will need to use the professional types costing above Rs 10,000. The smaller ones just cant take the load.Krasher water cooled ones are ideal but very expensive and actually not worth it. Bosch GHP 5 - 13 is a good choice. However I prefer local brands like Neptune or Agro supreme. These are also easier to repair if required. Instead of using a long outlet you can use a long inlet and short outlet so that you can be near the machine. Also high pressure outlet pipes are very expensive compared to ordinary inlet pipes. Even with pressure washer you will need to scrub the rubber mats intermittently. DO NOT use the pressure washer on or near the animals under any circumstances.

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Old 21st September 2024, 15:31   #1398
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For your use, the standard washers used for washing cars are not going to be sufficient. You will need to use the professional types costing above Rs 10,000. The smaller ones just cant take the load.Krasher water cooled ones are ideal but very expensive and actually not worth it. Bosch GHP 5 - 13 is a good choice. However I prefer local brands like Neptune or Agro supreme. These are also easier to repair if required. Instead of using a long outlet you can use a long inlet and short outlet so that you can be near the machine. Also high pressure outlet pipes are very expensive compared to ordinary inlet pipes. Even with pressure washer you will need to scrub the rubber mats intermittently. DO NOT use the pressure washer on or near the animals under any circumstances.
Actually the dirt/manure on the mats isn't too dry or caked up as we keep washing the mats multiple times during the day. Almost all the Chines rebranded stuff beinh sold lie about the pressure numbers so your advice about Neptune etc is correct as at least they are saying theirs are 60 bar and not 200 bar.
Regarding the hose, unfortunately, having a longer inlet is not an option as that would also mean having a very long power cable which I can't have lying around the animals. So will have to end up spending substantially on the outlet hose.
As for your last point, it is going to be a big challenge not using the pressure washer near the animals as soon we are going to transition where the cows are going to be free instead of tied up inside the shed. So in that case I will have to ensure I am the only one using the pressure washer and the employees can continue using the normal water pump.
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I don't think anything domestic will meet your demands: you need industrial! Please see AJ56's recommendation: that may have an all-day/every-day duty cycle.

I got lucky and quickly found his relevant post
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I picked up this battery powered washer based on reviews.

And it is surprisingly capable. Decent pressure and economical usage of water. I was done with a Hector in about 1 bucket of water.

Only issue is the soap/foamer bottle. It gets depleted way too fast.

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I don't think anything domestic will meet your demands: you need industrial! Please see AJ56's recommendation: that may have an all-day/every-day duty cycle.

I got lucky and quickly found his relevant post
Actually, now that I have watched many videos online, I have come to the conclusion that I really don't need a very powerful commercial washer.
So, right now we are using a smal 0.5HP water pump and of course, using my finger to create a pressure stream and that gets 90% of the job done with ease. The way we wotk at our dairy farm is very different. We pick up the manure very quickly after the cow has pooped. After picking it up, I only need to wash whatever residue is left. Only issue is that we don't have anyone doing that during the night, yet. So some of that dries up during the night and that requires some scrubbing with a hard bristle brush. Currently that takes roughly 30-40 minutes of my time and the issue is that, of course, my employees won't scrub with the same zeal and effort like I do.
Having watched the videos any high pressure washer will actually cause damage more easily to my floor and more easily to my rubber mats than a low power washer. So I have come to the conclusion that a 50-60 bar setup would be actually fine for me as I am not letting the manure sit for too long on the mats/floor to actually cake up. Also lower pressure means it is safer to be used around the animals.
So now the dilemma is to spend a little extra and get a pump and a good motor separately instead of the coupled motor devices avaialble with chinese motors. And of course it would help if someone knows a reputed brand for a 60 bar HTP pump that I can order.
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Old 22nd September 2024, 17:06   #1402
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Actually, now that I have watched many videos online, I have come to the conclusion that I really don't need a very powerful commercial washer.
So, right now we are using a smal 0.5HP water pump


For this, just search for Pressure booster pump.
I think that this might work for you. Another advantage is that this can be purchased under the the SMAM scheme of the central government where you can get upto 50% subsidy.
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I think we run our domestic pressure pump at about 2.5 bar. That may not sound much, but it is plenty for a decent shower, and enough for using the hose in the garden. With a spray head (or a thumb!) it is probably enough to move wet cow excrement. And it could be turned up a lot.

You have a pressure tank, which acts as a buffer, so that the pressure remains almost constant, rather than rising or falling as the pump cuts in and out. There are now tankless systems: probably a lot more complex and more expensive.

Grundfoss is the Rolls Royce of pumps, and comes at an RR price. Our pressure pump is still going strong after 12 years. Otherwise, I had CRI recommended to me when I was buying a de-watering pump. Our 2hp CRI de-watering pump drains all the grey water from our house every day, and keeps us safe when flood threatens.
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Well my ResQTech Pw-107 kicked the bucket after 2 years and 6 months of usage. Repairing it doesn't seem to be worthwhile so I'm now on the market for another pressure washer. I struggled with finding accessories for the resqtech since they used proprietary connections.

What's a good, reliable pressure washer that uses universal quick connectors? I plan on using it for washing my car as well as for cleaning tiles etc. Hopefully something with a bit more power and flow rate so it feels like an upgrade. I'm seeing quite a lot of new companies like Agaro, Shakti etc selling pressure washers for cheap on amazon. Are they any good?
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Well my ResQTech Pw-107 kicked the bucket after 2 years and 6 months of usage. Repairing it doesn't seem to be worthwhile so I'm now on the market for another pressure washer. I struggled with finding accessories for the resqtech since they used proprietary connections.

What's a good, reliable pressure washer that uses universal quick connectors? I plan on using it for washing my car as well as for cleaning tiles etc. Hopefully something with a bit more power and flow rate so it feels like an upgrade. I'm seeing quite a lot of new companies like Agaro, Shakti etc selling pressure washers for cheap on amazon. Are they any good?
You can't go wrong with Karcher K2 or K3 series. Been using K2 for a bunch of years with no issues. I even got the 15 m hose from a different vendor and it works very well.
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What's a good, reliable pressure washer that uses universal quick connectors? Hopefully something with a bit more power and flow rate so it feels like an upgrade. I'm seeing quite a lot of new companies like Agaro, Shakti etc selling pressure washers for cheap on amazon. Are they any good?
StarQ and Shakti work fine and are reasonably durable with spares easily available. They’re all rebranded Chinese units but quality wise are ok for the low cost they come in at compared to a Kranzle/AR.

Just change the pump oil every 100 hours and you won’t have issues.

https://www.starq.in/products/qpt-st...her-qt-1800hpw

https://www.starq.in/products/high-p...2200-hpw-starq
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Can you please suggest a swivel gun that can either be used with a Karcher hose or a swivel gun and reliable metal adaptors to convert Karcher outlet to take a 15mm M22 hose.
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StarQ and Shakti work fine and are reasonably durable with spares easily available. They’re all rebranded Chinese units but quality wise are ok for the low cost they come in at compared to a Kranzle/AR.

Just change the pump oil every 100 hours and you won’t have issues.

https://www.starq.in/products/qpt-st...her-qt-1800hpw

https://www.starq.in/products/high-p...2200-hpw-starq
Would you place, even their lower price offerings (8-13k) above options from Bosch/Karcher. If yes, can you suggest a model for daily use of around 1hr for floor and mat cleaning around animals at a dairy farm. I would need Karcher Dirt blaster like functionality for the floor while keeping it soft for the rubber mats and around animals. I was currently gonna go for Karcher K3/K4 at around 12k.

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Would you place, even their lower price offerings (8-13k) above options from Bosch/Karcher. If yes, can you suggest a model for daily use of around 1hr for floor and mat cleaning around animals at a dairy farm. I was currently gonna go for Karcher K3/K4 at around 12k.
Yes they’re still much better than the Karcher and Bosch domestic lineup reliability wise.

You can’t run any of these machines for even 30 mins continuously, let alone an hour. You’ll need a larger unit with a heavier pump and better cooling that can handle extreme operation of 60 mins continuous.

Karcher K3 don’t even consider as it has the very unreliable universal motor that leaks oil like no tomorrow. K4 you can consider as it has the much better induction motor. But you still can’t run it more than 15 mins continuous without overheating it.

Also with the Karcher yellow domestic line there’s no easy way to service them, there is no pump oil that you can change, only grease and for that you have to pull apart the entire machine to access.

They also come with crap plastic hoses that not only are too short (6-8m) but also kink and tear very easily, and Karcher rips you on the replacement cost of every spare.

Also, they’re poor value. You’re paying 18k for the basic K3 with the K3 premium crossing 30k. K4 will range between 30-44k depending on the variant.
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Yes they’re still much better than the Karcher and Bosch domestic lineup reliability wise.

You can’t run any of these machines for even 30 mins continuously, let alone an hour. You’ll need a larger unit with a heavier pump and better cooling that can handle extreme operation of 60 mins continuous.

Karcher K3 don’t even consider as it has the very unreliable universal motor that leaks oil like no tomorrow. K4 you can consider as it has the much better induction motor. But you still can’t run it more than 15 mins continuous without overheating it.

Also with the Karcher yellow domestic line there’s no easy way to service them, there is no pump oil that you can change, only grease and for that you have to pull apart the entire machine to access.

They also come with crap plastic hoses that not only are too short (6-8m) but also kink and tear very easily, and Karcher rips you on the replacement cost of every spare.

Also, they’re poor value. You’re paying 18k for the basic K3 with the K3 premium crossing 30k. K4 will range between 30-44k depending on the variant.
First of all, thanks for your valuable feedback. I think I made a mistake in defining my usage properly.

1) The pressure washer won't be used for 1hr continuously. It is 1hr total usage in 1 day.

2)Mine is a dairy farm. I like to keep my cows and their surroundings pretty clean. So we usually pick up their poop as soon as possible. After that we wash off the residue from their rubber mats with the help of a 0.5HP pump. Unfortunately, we can't do this during the night. So when we clean in the morning, not all of the residue gets washed away and I have to then scrub the mats with a hard brush. It was alright when it was just 2-3 mats, but now I have to clean up 12 mats and that number is gonna increase. So I am hoping using a pressure washer should let me get away without scrubbing the mats. So if using them for a long time is a problem, I can still continue using the pump for the main work and just use the pressure washer for the tough residue.

Now, for the pricing mentioned in your post. I think prices have changed a lot since last you checked. These are the prices available right now during the sale.

1) Bosch Aquatak 125 - 8k on Amazon after discount.
2) Karcher K3 HR - 12050 on Flipkart after discount
3) Karcher K3 Deluxe Premium - 13050 on Moglix after discount
4) Karcher K4 Classic - 11700 on Amazon after discount (now OOS)
5) Karcher K4 Power Control without HR - 20500 on Amazon after discount
6) Karcher K5 Power Control without HR - 23000 on Amazon after discount.
7) Starq 1800 HPW - 19500 on Amazon after discount

So I was hoping that a Karcher K3 HR or Deluxe Premium would be enough for my usage and I won't have to spend more than 12-13k. But if they would be problematic and the Starq would be more reliable and servicable then I mighy be able to stretch that much but only if it would be worth my kind of usage. I know we get better hose with the Starq and if I were to want to convert the Karcher to universal fittings it would be costly. But I also like the performance of the Dirt Blaster from Karcher a lot.
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