The truth about K & N Filters

s.prashanth · 9th August 2006, 17:48

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Originally Posted by killjoy

OT, did you actually meet the big guy or is it a PS job?

I met him in the Dublin, pub in windsor Manor where he was staying when he came for the art of living gathering in bangalore

willy · 7th September 2006, 15:44

My understanding about the K&N filter (Air/Persormance) filters are used to improve the milage and the performance of the car. Can any one tell me in that case why our Indian car manufacturers use a good filter to outbeat this K&N and other stuff like that?

What kind of filter can I use for my Esteem 2004 model? I seriously don't need the sound to change. I only want the performance and the milage to improve.

shahsaurabh · 14th September 2006, 10:58

I agree to what Prashant said, even on K&N website, they have given a formula for selectiing your AIr filter. The formula determines the height of your air filter on the basis of your engine CC and rpm. According to the formula, my Honda Vtec should have a filter of Height 3", but the ones availabe in market are only 7". So please read the website carefully before going for K&N, cos its more of a branded product.

rapideffect · 14th September 2006, 11:20

Planning for a K&N to my 1.2 palio, but stuck with Pipercross.
Can anybody throw some lights on how good or bad the "Pipercross" is when compared to K&N.

Your feedback will be very helpful for me to decide up on it.

Thanks & Rgds

lancer_maniac · 24th September 2006, 15:48

will there be an increase in mileage if we r using ractive filter???also any change in sound???

redeye · 26th August 2007, 14:27

guys how much would a extreme filter cost for lancer

rishibravo · 26th August 2007, 14:37

should be aroung 5500 bucks. If you go for some good plumbing then its going to cost you a little more. You can explore other options like green cotton which has a conical filter in an enclosure and a cold intake. you can fit it in any car.

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Originally Posted by redeye

guys how much would a extreme filter cost for lancer

BUSA · 26th August 2007, 17:03

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Originally Posted by redeye

guys how much would a extreme filter cost for lancer

It is better to go in for a Green Cotton Filter with dynamisation kit since Lancer has no place for CAI and it draws hot air from the engine.

redeye · 26th August 2007, 18:19

how much a green cotton filter kit cost, where in bangalore

binz · 26th August 2007, 18:21

I do not think s.prashants point has been understood.

What he is saying is that a bigger filter does not make a difference compared to the size which is right for particular model.

This is the same thing that rahul,keshav have been saying but people dont listen.We all think K&N 'extreme' is the end to all performance mods.

Please understand that the extreme series of air filters is not designed for the size of throttle bodies we have on our 1.6l cars.A smaller filter would infact work as well or even better.

rishibravo · 26th August 2007, 18:55

binz if I am not wrong then extreme filter isnt designed to be big and for bigger throttel body engines (Atleast thats what it says on the box ) . Its designed for extreme dusty condition. So if someone is driving in dry and dusty conditions then K&N extreme is not a bad option. I am pretty sure it wont give a lesser performance than its smaller counterpart.

BUSA · 26th August 2007, 20:34

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Originally Posted by redeye

how much a green cotton filter kit cost, where in bangalore

It costs around 7k or so, contact Peter aka Turboindia on the forum

crazydiablo · 27th August 2007, 11:10

Point is very valid. For most stock cars which goes in for a filter change, only a stock replacement is good enough.

Extreme filters will work well if you have other mods in the engine to complement it. More air on a stock car will make if run leaner and maybe you will get good mileage. Not recommended for long term.

rider60 · 30th October 2007, 00:17

alright i got preshanth's point too but need help choosing a filter for my unicorn and they say model r-1060 or rc-1060 suits for the 150cc engine, is that true, i cannot inquire about this on the K&N site for i very much doubt if they would suggest a cone or a cylinder filter for a bike's engine!

rr_zen · 30th October 2007, 00:27

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Originally Posted by rider60

alright i got preshanth's point too but need help choosing a filter for my unicorn and they say model r-1060 or rc-1060 suits for the 150cc engine, is that true, i cannot inquire about this on the K&N site for i very much doubt if they would suggest a cone or a cylinder filter for a bike's engine!

AFAIK the RC-1060 is the one that is recommended for the Unicorn. This is what I found on the K&N site.

RC-1060

R-1060

Hope this is of some help.

7th September 2006, 15:44	#17
willy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 146 Thanked: 0 Times	My understanding about the K&N filter (Air/Persormance) filters are used to improve the milage and the performance of the car. Can any one tell me in that case why our Indian car manufacturers use a good filter to outbeat this K&N and other stuff like that? What kind of filter can I use for my Esteem 2004 model? I seriously don't need the sound to change. I only want the performance and the milage to improve.
	() Thanks

14th September 2006, 10:58	#18
shahsaurabh Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3 Thanked: 0 Times	I agree to what Prashant said, even on K&N website, they have given a formula for selectiing your AIr filter. The formula determines the height of your air filter on the basis of your engine CC and rpm. According to the formula, my Honda Vtec should have a filter of Height 3", but the ones availabe in market are only 7". So please read the website carefully before going for K&N, cos its more of a branded product.
	() Thanks

14th September 2006, 11:20	#19
rapideffect BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 147 Thanked: 4 Times	Planning for a K&N to my 1.2 palio, but stuck with Pipercross. Can anybody throw some lights on how good or bad the "Pipercross" is when compared to K&N. Your feedback will be very helpful for me to decide up on it. Thanks & Rgds
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24th September 2006, 15:48	#20
lancer_maniac BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bengaluruu Posts: 236 Thanked: 177 Times	will there be an increase in mileage if we r using ractive filter???also any change in sound???
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26th August 2007, 14:27	#21
redeye BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 275 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	guys how much would a extreme filter cost for lancer
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26th August 2007, 18:19	#24
redeye BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 275 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	how much a green cotton filter kit cost, where in bangalore
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26th August 2007, 18:21	#25
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	I do not think s.prashants point has been understood. What he is saying is that a bigger filter does not make a difference compared to the size which is right for particular model. This is the same thing that rahul,keshav have been saying but people dont listen.We all think K&N 'extreme' is the end to all performance mods. Please understand that the extreme series of air filters is not designed for the size of throttle bodies we have on our 1.6l cars.A smaller filter would infact work as well or even better.
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26th August 2007, 18:55	#26
rishibravo BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 579 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	binz if I am not wrong then extreme filter isnt designed to be big and for bigger throttel body engines (Atleast thats what it says on the box ) . Its designed for extreme dusty condition. So if someone is driving in dry and dusty conditions then K&N extreme is not a bad option. I am pretty sure it wont give a lesser performance than its smaller counterpart.
	() Thanks

27th August 2007, 11:10	#28
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 854 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	Point is very valid. For most stock cars which goes in for a filter change, only a stock replacement is good enough. Extreme filters will work well if you have other mods in the engine to complement it. More air on a stock car will make if run leaner and maybe you will get good mileage. Not recommended for long term.
	() Thanks

30th October 2007, 00:17	#29
rider60 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bhagyanagaram. (A.K.A. Hyderabad) Posts: 1,620 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	alright i got preshanth's point too but need help choosing a filter for my unicorn and they say model r-1060 or rc-1060 suits for the 150cc engine, is that true, i cannot inquire about this on the K&N site for i very much doubt if they would suggest a cone or a cylinder filter for a bike's engine!
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