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Previous LED headlights burnt out, so I replaced with a popular choice, Excelite Mark3 H4, 220W pair for Car 1 and Philips U 3550 H4 60W. Shop installed it differently than recommended on youtube videos, so asking here for the right option.
My worries:
- Main worry - LEDs getting very hot to touch, so wont it be a hazard if it touches the rubber dust cover? Even the black box is hot to touch.
The fan part is open, wont it gather a ton of dust, debris and maybe water. Will the LED be able to sustain the Indian dusty conditions?
Both LEDs after fitting are tilted/angled to about 5degrees altering the light throw, clockwise, is that normal? I can post more pics.
This is how they installed it:
This is how I re-did the installation (For 2 of my cars) Reference video:
Here

My friend is looking to upgrade headlights of a base variant of a Toyota Hyryder. I could not find any related post or thread so posting here. Some people are suggesting changing to Bycardi 240W LED. Any suggestions will be welcome.
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Originally Posted by JKBKS
(Post 5893939)
My friend is looking to upgrade headlights of a base variant of a Toyota Hyryder. I could not find any related post or thread so posting here. Some people are suggesting changing to Bycardi 240W LED. Any suggestions will be welcome. |
Just got LEDs for 2 of my cars. Dont go by the hype. Get standard Philips top of the line LEDs. This watt n all business is misleading. Check my post above. 1 car has Exelite Mark3 H4 220W (7000/-) and the other has Philips Ultinon 60W (4500/) philips is better build and overall better value for money. There is hardly any difference in the brightness.
My learning -
headlight housing built for halogens can never equal the quality and performance of true led headlights.
Aftermarkets have fan based heat sinks, which are known for failing. So be prepared to replace in 2-3 years.
Hey, I'm a newbie here, and required some advice regarding a lighting upgrade.
TL;DR: Need advise and suggestions to buy 3000K fog lamps that are cheap and durable, hopefully under 6k. Or suggest alternatives for my use case.
Long version:
I have a 2017 WagonR in vxi trim. The only upgrades that have been done are wider tyres and an infotainment screen.
However the last village trip with my parents left a lot to be desired in terms of night driving, especially on unmarked highways and broken interior roads.
I was thinking of upgrading to 3000K fog lamps in place of the stock, as they should be most helpful in dusty and foggy conditions, but simply am not able to find a LED bulb of that colour. Only multi coloured projectors are available, and I don't want to deal with the hassle of switching the light on and off if all I want is yellow.
The current main lights setup is an 80/85W stock halogen setup, which I'm going to replace myself with a pair old 90/100W bulb from another unused car.
I believe that should take care of the highway drives on the bigger roads, but not in the unlit broken roads areas.
While visiting Koliwada (mumbai's karol bagh), I was shown a tricolor projector setup of a brand called GM, which I haven't heard of, and was quoted 4500 + installation charges. Any review on this?
I request you all to help me find a pair of good lights that will provide confidence to driving on dark dusty unlit roads, and within a budget, as it won't be possible to convince my parents for any expensive equipment.
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Originally Posted by BNG-motorhead
(Post 5892941)
My worries: - Main worry - LEDs getting very hot to touch, so wont it be a hazard if it touches the rubber dust cover? Even the black box is hot to touch.
The fan part is open, wont it gather a ton of dust, debris and maybe water. Will the LED be able to sustain the Indian dusty conditions?
Both LEDs after fitting are tilted/angled to about 5degrees altering the light throw, clockwise, is that normal? I can post more pics.
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Tilt is not an issue, it actually gives some flexibility to get optimal lighting pattern. However the fans staying exposed outside the housing has a pro & con. Pro - LEDs will last longer and run slightly lower in temp since fan is exposed to more fresh air on the sides, however the dust accumulation with time will slow down the fan and eventually it will fail. Ideally good quality brands like Philips, OSRAm are better left completely sealed inside headlight cover since they have more reliability at higher temp. You can maybe get a tyre shop guy to put compressed air pressure on these fans every 3-6 months to knock off excess dust.
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Originally Posted by JKBKS
(Post 5893939)
My friend is looking to upgrade headlights of a base variant of a Toyota Hyryder. I could not find any related post or thread so posting here. Some people are suggesting changing to Bycardi 240W LED. Any suggestions will be welcome. |
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Originally Posted by BNG-motorhead
(Post 5894269)
Just got LEDs for 2 of my cars. Dont go by the hype. Get standard Philips top of the line LEDs. This watt n all business is misleading. Check my post above. 1 car has Exelite Mark3 H4 220W (7000/-) and the other has Philips Ultinon 60W (4500/) philips is better build and overall better value for money. There is hardly any difference in the brightness. |
Absolutely right about the power. LEDs are mostly around 20-30 watt range with some recent models having 50W, beyond that its just false claims and illogical. I would trust only handful of brands like Philips and OSram and avoid most of the unknown made in china ones.
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Originally Posted by supertinu
(Post 5909706)
Ideally good quality brands like Philips, OSRAm are better left completely sealed inside headlight cover since they have more reliability at higher temp |
If I completely seal inside headlight cover, I was mainly worried about the hot heat sink touching the rubber cover, and causing it to melt/burn. Am I overthinking?
I am looking for LED indicator bulbs, LED reverse light bulbs and LED numberplate bulbs for my 2023 Honda Amaze. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by saikishor
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I am looking for LED indicator bulbs, LED reverse light bulbs and LED numberplate bulbs for my 2023 Honda Amaze. Any suggestions would be appreciated. |
LED indicators may not be feasible. Or it will require CAN error corrector. As if indicator bulb (halogen) blows out, the load on indicator flasher decreases and the indicator flashing interval for rest of the bulbs decrease (bulbs flashing quickly). LEDs will reduce that load on the flasher unit and hence you may face this issue.
Rest- number plate lights, boot lamp, and even reverse light can be done easily. I have done it myself in my City (license plate and boot lamp only). The replacements for both boot lamp (1 nos.) and license plate lights (2 nos.) are T-10 LEDs.
For changing the boot lamp, just pry out the light assembly. Bulb replacement is simple- pull out and push-in. For the license plate light, better to remove the rear side upholstery of the boot lid held by plastic pins. There are 2 push-in sockets which you can take out by pressing the sides. Same pull out and push in replacement of bulb. Just remember that most LEDs are sensitive to polarities. Hence, they will not work if +/- is reversed.
I haven't checked the back-up light hence cannot confirm the bulb specification.
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Originally Posted by saket77
(Post 5909776)
LED indicators may not be feasible. Or it will require CAN error corrector. As if indicator bulb (halogen) blows out, the load on indicator flasher decreases and the indicator flashing interval for rest of the bulbs decrease (bulbs flashing quickly). LEDs will reduce that load on the flasher unit and hence you may face this issue.
Rest- number plate lights, boot lamp, and even reverse light can be done easily. I have done it myself in my City (license plate and boot lamp only). The replacements for both boot lamp (1 nos.) and license plate lights (2 nos.) are T-10 LEDs.
I haven't checked the back-up light hence cannot confirm the bulb specification. |
I reached out to this maker called Durivent, they have this error free CANBUS indicator bulbs. I was thinking of trying those. Any opinion on these?
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Originally Posted by saikishor
(Post 5909779)
I reached out to this maker called Durivent, they have this error free CANBUS indicator bulbs. I was thinking of trying those. Any opinion on these? |
Haven't tried any of these. What you can do is that try the T-10 (that you will get for license plates anyway) in the side indicator and check if it behaves fine.
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Originally Posted by BNG-motorhead
(Post 5909759)
If I completely seal inside headlight cover, I was mainly worried about the hot heat sink touching the rubber cover, and causing it to melt/burn. Am I overthinking? |
LEDs and other semiconductor components dont operate beyond 90-100 deg C. So your heat sink is going to be lower in temp and this is much lower than melting point of the rubber cover ~150 deg C. So nothing to worry as such.
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Originally Posted by F10D1061
(Post 5900161)
I request you all to help me find a pair of good lights that will provide confidence to driving on dark dusty unlit roads, and within a budget, as it won't be possible to convince my parents for any expensive equipment. |
I recently installed a pair of GT-R fog lamps in my Ignis. I'm sharing this here as you can consider them. My main contention was I didn't want to tamper with the main headlamps and I wanted to retain the yellow headlamps. Currently they are stock bulbs but may get upgraded to 90/100.
The best part about the fogs is that I installed two more switched on the blank panel (beside headlamp leveller switch) that control high beam as well as spot lights. This gives me more control over how I want to use them. I paid around 10k for the install but had to get it re-done from another place as per my requirement.
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Originally Posted by saikishor
(Post 5909766)
I am looking for LED indicator bulbs |
You can use
Osram T10 bulbs for right and left side panels of your car. I am using them on my Zen and they work fine. Likewise, you can use any other brand as per your budget and need.
Here as well, you can go with Osram T10 bulbs. They give a premium look at night and are bright too!
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Originally Posted by blackwasp
(Post 5936032)
I recently installed a pair of GT-R fog lamps in my Ignis. I'm sharing this here as you can consider them. My main contention was I didn't want to tamper with the main headlamps and I wanted to retain the yellow headlamps. Currently they are stock bulbs but may get upgraded to 90/100.
The best part about the fogs is that I installed two more switched on the blank panel (beside headlamp leveller switch) that control high beam as well as spot lights. This gives me more control over how I want to use them. I paid around 10k for the install but had to get it re-done from another place as per my requirement. |
Thanks for the response. Could you share the exact lights, how you sourced them and where did you get the installation? If it's not too much work, I'd be very interested in seeing them in action too.
Regarding the 90/100 bulbs, go for it without a second thought. One of the simplest and vfm upgrades there is, and it makes a huge difference even on highways. Costs 100 per bulb, and you can install them yourself.
Installing LED Projector Bulbs on a 2019 Santro
I recently upgraded the stock halogen bulbs on my Friend’s 2019 Santro to brighter LED projector bulbs. The installation process was quite simple. First, I removed the original H4 halogen bulbs from the headlight housing. I then ordered a pair of LED projector bulbs from Durvient Lighting Solutions.
To install the new LEDs, I started by installing the LED bulb's mount, which locks the bulb securely in place using the clamp inside the headlight housing. The mounting also includes two small screws for alignment adjustment. By loosening these screws, you can rotate the mount clockwise or counterclockwise to achieve the correct beam alignment.

The mounting

Secured with the Lockpin provided int headlight housing.

Once the mounting was set, I inserted the LED bulb perpendicular to the holder, where it locks securely. After that, I adjusted the beam alignment with those tiny screws on the mount. The new LED bulbs provide a noticeably brighter and clearer throw compared to the stock halogen lights. The projector lens ensures a sharp beam that doesn’t disturb oncoming traffic. The high beam too is perfect, though a bit of alignment would make it more focused on the road.
The original dust cap from the headlight unit fits perfectly over the LED bulb, ensuring no moisture enters and protects the LED module. After aligning the upper beam correctly, everything works perfectly, delivering improved visibility and performance.
A video of it in action.
https://youtu.be/K-7eVqGwQfM?si=fQbqVQfd2Zj4ACOW Precautions and Instructions for Installation
While these instructions are usually mentioned on the product's packaging, they are often overlooked in the excitement of installation. Be sure to follow these important steps:
1.Halogen Bulb Removal: Allow the halogen bulb to cool down completely before handling it. Avoid touching the glass part of the bulb, as oils from your hands can cause damage or shorten its lifespan.
2.LED Installation in a Projector Assembly: Never install the LED while the projector is powered on, as this may harm the projector’s reflector.
In many vehicles, particularly older models and bikes, there’s an external dust cap through which the LED must pass. Ensure the projector assembly is securely locked before completing the installation. A hardened or improperly positioned dust cap can push the LED out of place, risking damage to both the LED and projector components. Avoid touching the LED chip during installation, as this can also cause irreversible damage to the bulb.
Following these steps carefully will help ensure a safe and successful installation.
The mini projector bulbs mentioned in this post are compatible with H4, HS1 (commonly used in motorcycles), and H19 (commonly found in Kia and Hyundai vehicles). Although Hyundai sometimes uses H19 bulbs, the 2019 Santro specifically comes equipped with H4 bulbs.
If you require the H19 version, please inform the guys at Durvient. They can provide the necessary fitting, which features two notches/cuts on the mounting ring. Apart from this difference, the H19 bulb is identical to the H4.
Mini Projector Bulbs Link:
https://durvient.com/h4-mini-project...ght-35w-6000k/ Quick Note: These LED projector bulbs are not compatible with headlights that have a shield in front of the bulbs. However, the shield is typically easy to remove, allowing for efficient installation of the LED projector bulb. While older vehicles and motorcycles often featured this type of shield, some newer models, like the Tata Punch, also include it. Fortunately, this shield can be easily detached to accommodate the LED projector bulb. Attaching few Headlight housing Pictures of Punch, i20, and old gen Ertiga.

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