FFE on Maruti-800

PAVAN KADAM · 5th January 2008, 19:13

Thanks,

First of all this car is very close to my heart, as this was our first car.

Just wanted to give it a new lease of a different life after clocking 1.60 lac kms on odo.

Had a great mechanic who was more than willing to get my mission accomplished.

The whole engine was done at home
The paint done at Bimal Whitefield
Upholstery done at Indiranagar
FFE by Raj Hingorani's Mech.

At least my car is satisfied that after 10 years of serving me competently, i've got this done.

PAVAN KADAM · 5th January 2008, 19:19

Yes it has got an Subros a/c kit(Real Big One)

Doesnt much affect the acceleration, Have had no problems using the a/c after FFE installation.

Only problem is the cabin noise, No R&D done on that for time being.

Its ok man as i drive it alone every time.

For the family there's always the BEAST at home.

Sure do drop in to my place,u can call me on 9886053699

PAVAN KADAM · 5th January 2008, 19:33

Thank you for your reply

1) Yes the pistons are Gold anodized(Done at a local Goldsmith),
WHY? Gold is a better metal than the alloy used for Pistons.
There's no grub on your piston head because of the blasting they undergo during compression.
They also dont hold heat for a long time.

2)Yes the same rocker arms are forged.
Simple reason because my mechanic wanted me to do it, he says they dont wear out faster once you forge and even reduces heat during their operation(I TRULY dont know what my mech had visualised)

The head work was done by Bangalore Motorcycle Work mech,(improves fuel flow)
Inlet and Exhaust port mirror polished(Simple polishing done to attain smooth surface).
This will help again in free fuel flow to the carb and again attain a complete FFE.

With all this the compression is good and has a great pick up and speed.
1st gear goes upto 40 kms
2nd gear upto 65 kms
3rd gear upto 80 kms
4th gear attained 135 kmph

I dont want to abuse my BABY.

Pls tell me about the small mod you've been talking.!!!!!!

PAVAN KADAM · 5th January 2008, 19:37

Thanks,

yes i already have the stock K&N filter since 2004(First of the K&N M-800 Filters was picked by me from METHODS.)

Sankar · 5th January 2008, 20:05

Kadam, if you're not much worried about fuel efficiency i would suggest making the secondary butterfly of the carb to open by the throttle linkage and not by vacuum. It does give a considerable improvement in performance.

I've never heard of anyone gold anodising/plating their piston and i doubt it has any benefits. I have heard of ceramic coated pistons. Have done it on my old bike.

PAVAN KADAM · 5th January 2008, 20:11

Thanks for your inputs will surely discuss the same with my mech.

Fuel effiency? my dad would surely know once my montly fuel bill raises.

Tough call on this. But for your input will surely give it a thought if it does not have any other side effects.

As i said earlier, this car is only for my daily commute to my office and back home with 55 kms a day travel.

I think this mod is meant to people who would like to take their cars on track, or for drag purpose(Correct me if i am wrong)

Thanks again,

About the gold anodizing.My mech is like a doctor for my cars, would have to give in to him for the passion he shows towards the cars.

humyum · 5th January 2008, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sankar

Kadam, if you're not much worried about fuel efficiency i would suggest making the secondary butterfly of the carb to open by the throttle linkage and not by vacuum. It does give a considerable improvement in performance.

I've never heard of anyone gold anodising/plating their piston and i doubt it has any benefits. I have heard of ceramic coated pistons. Have done it on my old bike.

Sankar can u elobrate on how this can be done.I would be interested too in opening the secondary butterfly in my 800 with the linkage.

viper · 5th January 2008, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by humyum

Sankar can u elobrate on how this can be done.I would be interested too in opening the secondary butterfly in my 800 with the linkage.

Hi,

Its pretty simple to do. You can do it by 2 means:

1> Disconnect the vacuum lines and remove the diaphragm and attach a spring to the secondary butterfly in tandem with the primary. The exact length and tension of spring will have to be manipulated.

2> Have someone make a geared linkage.

Would recommend the spring as it is easily reversible.

Viper

Sankar · 5th January 2008, 21:27

Yes it's a simple mod like Viper said.

I went with the second method i used a linkage. It was a very simple thing i spot welded a cut piece of washer to the primary in such a way that once the primary is open by about 25% the washer will push down on a slight projection on the secondary and opening it gradually. Both the primary and secondary would be open 100% when the throttle is pinned down.

It's hard to explain without a picture and i don't have that car with me now to take a pic.

harry2223 · 7th January 2008, 19:28

can anyone pls help me out i like my maruti800 alot due to its mileage . but i dont like its sound as it sounds like a scooty . iwant to make it sound louder and heavier like a diesel car. not much louder to disturb others but a little bit heavier . are there any mods for that

hyper123 · 7th January 2008, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry2223

can anyone pls help me out i like my maruti800 alot due to its mileage . but i dont like its sound as it sounds like a scooty . iwant to make it sound louder and heavier like a diesel car. not much louder to disturb others but a little bit heavier . are there any mods for that

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Get a conical air intake and change the end-can if you want just the sound. Make sure you specify the type of sound that you want from the car.

Automech is pretty popular in this dept.

harry2223 · 7th January 2008, 20:41

i want a bit heavier sound from my car while accelerating like those in old diesel cars . i want it to sound like a big diesel car not like a scooty pep

PAVAN KADAM · 7th January 2008, 22:30

Go get your headers with FFE buddy,

Your mission will get accomplished.

PAVAN KADAM · 8th January 2008, 17:36

You need to tear down your existing exhausts

Go in for a 3 - 2 - 1 HEADERS, use the flexible hose after this,

Complete it with the tail piece, fill lots of glass wool into the new tail piece.

You'll get a heavier sound, like those on a Honda City.

PAVAN KADAM · 12th January 2008, 21:51

Uploading upholstery project photos for My Power Horse M-800.

Any body interseted in this or shall i stop posting on this thread.

5th January 2008, 19:13	#16
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Thanks, First of all this car is very close to my heart, as this was our first car. Just wanted to give it a new lease of a different life after clocking 1.60 lac kms on odo. Had a great mechanic who was more than willing to get my mission accomplished. The whole engine was done at home The paint done at Bimal Whitefield Upholstery done at Indiranagar FFE by Raj Hingorani's Mech. At least my car is satisfied that after 10 years of serving me competently, i've got this done.
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5th January 2008, 19:19	#17
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Yes it has got an Subros a/c kit(Real Big One) Doesnt much affect the acceleration, Have had no problems using the a/c after FFE installation. Only problem is the cabin noise, No R&D done on that for time being. Its ok man as i drive it alone every time. For the family there's always the BEAST at home. Sure do drop in to my place,u can call me on 9886053699
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5th January 2008, 19:33	#18
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Thank you for your reply 1) Yes the pistons are Gold anodized(Done at a local Goldsmith), WHY? Gold is a better metal than the alloy used for Pistons. There's no grub on your piston head because of the blasting they undergo during compression. They also dont hold heat for a long time. 2)Yes the same rocker arms are forged. Simple reason because my mechanic wanted me to do it, he says they dont wear out faster once you forge and even reduces heat during their operation(I TRULY dont know what my mech had visualised) The head work was done by Bangalore Motorcycle Work mech,(improves fuel flow) Inlet and Exhaust port mirror polished(Simple polishing done to attain smooth surface). This will help again in free fuel flow to the carb and again attain a complete FFE. With all this the compression is good and has a great pick up and speed. 1st gear goes upto 40 kms 2nd gear upto 65 kms 3rd gear upto 80 kms 4th gear attained 135 kmph I dont want to abuse my BABY. Pls tell me about the small mod you've been talking.!!!!!!
	() Thanks

5th January 2008, 19:37	#19
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Thanks, yes i already have the stock K&N filter since 2004(First of the K&N M-800 Filters was picked by me from METHODS.)
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5th January 2008, 20:05	#20
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	Kadam, if you're not much worried about fuel efficiency i would suggest making the secondary butterfly of the carb to open by the throttle linkage and not by vacuum. It does give a considerable improvement in performance. I've never heard of anyone gold anodising/plating their piston and i doubt it has any benefits. I have heard of ceramic coated pistons. Have done it on my old bike.
	() Thanks

5th January 2008, 20:11	#21
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Thanks for your inputs will surely discuss the same with my mech. Fuel effiency? my dad would surely know once my montly fuel bill raises. Tough call on this. But for your input will surely give it a thought if it does not have any other side effects. As i said earlier, this car is only for my daily commute to my office and back home with 55 kms a day travel. I think this mod is meant to people who would like to take their cars on track, or for drag purpose(Correct me if i am wrong) Thanks again, About the gold anodizing.My mech is like a doctor for my cars, would have to give in to him for the passion he shows towards the cars.
	() Thanks

5th January 2008, 21:27	#24
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	Yes it's a simple mod like Viper said. I went with the second method i used a linkage. It was a very simple thing i spot welded a cut piece of washer to the primary in such a way that once the primary is open by about 25% the washer will push down on a slight projection on the secondary and opening it gradually. Both the primary and secondary would be open 100% when the throttle is pinned down. It's hard to explain without a picture and i don't have that car with me now to take a pic.
	() Thanks

7th January 2008, 19:28	#25
harry2223 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: patiala Posts: 350 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	can anyone pls help me out i like my maruti800 alot due to its mileage . but i dont like its sound as it sounds like a scooty . iwant to make it sound louder and heavier like a diesel car. not much louder to disturb others but a little bit heavier . are there any mods for that
	() Thanks

7th January 2008, 20:41	#27
harry2223 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: patiala Posts: 350 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	i want a bit heavier sound from my car while accelerating like those in old diesel cars . i want it to sound like a big diesel car not like a scooty pep
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7th January 2008, 22:30	#28
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Go get your headers with FFE buddy, Your mission will get accomplished.
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8th January 2008, 17:36	#29
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	You need to tear down your existing exhausts Go in for a 3 - 2 - 1 HEADERS, use the flexible hose after this, Complete it with the tail piece, fill lots of glass wool into the new tail piece. You'll get a heavier sound, like those on a Honda City.
	() Thanks

12th January 2008, 21:51	#30
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	FFE on Maruti-800(Inside looks) Uploading upholstery project photos for My Power Horse M-800. Any body interseted in this or shall i stop posting on this thread.
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