ARTICLE: How to Modify / Tune your car

ananthkamath · 6th July 2007, 09:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Everything is a complicated procedure in modifying a car. Also removing the rev limiter is not as complicated as you have made it out to be (last I remember somebody did it for me in about 15mins).

This fuel injection thing is really neat. Right now I m doing all I can to educate myself so I dont turn into a fossil.

Glad that GTO and the others took this step to educate people. This is the death knell for the age of misinformation and ignorance in the performance aftermarket. And mark my words, in the coming years, I intend to do something to contribute.

GTO · 6th July 2007, 09:27

Quote:

Hopefully this will be an evolving document, with more modifications getting described and explained.

Yes, absolutely. We will certainly update this article as newer modifications arrive on the scene. Another reason for constant updates will be the prices which may only increase with time or inflation.

Psycho & Mclaren : Thanks for clearing Vipers doubts.

v1p3r · 6th July 2007, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by ananthkamath

I intend to do something to contribute.

You could start by contributing your Dolphin to a needy student!

jassi · 6th July 2007, 23:37

awesome thread - I did read the "dude i bolted 25bhp" thread but this thread is a good concise representation of it all in one place.
I have been planning to do some mods on my santro xing erlx for quite sometime (once i have the cash

) and looking forward to getting some of the stage 1 stuff i.e. ffe and CAI. when i am ready will disturb our bangy modders on the best places to get stuff done

Do you guys think cars like santro respond well to mods - I have never heard anyone on this thread do any of the stage 2 stuff on a santro. Anyways my aim is just try different things on santro till I move to a new more modworthy car next year

Thanks again for all the education on mods guys - tbhp rocks!!

Sudipto-S-Team · 6th July 2007, 23:49

I don't know if it is proper but we should have a city-wise list of competent people/workshops who can carry out these modifications and some endorsements of brands to go for. But there has to be a quality check on this, otherwise it has dangerous implications. What say mods?

jassi · 7th July 2007, 00:18

yes I was going to ask for that too - A reliable list of workshops for every region which is tried & tested by tbhpians. Newbies like me are happy with the awesome tech advise but would be happiest if we knew the most reliable place to do it

for example - if automech is recommended then which automech dealer in bangy, cold air intake then which is the best K&N authorized dealer who also does a perfect job of the air intake mandrel bent plumbing and then porting/polishing stage 2 workshops, etc
Now i know I can get the list of K&N dealers in bangalore from K&n site or surf automech site to guide me to their bangy dealers, but which one is tbhp recommended would mean a lot

v1p3r · 7th July 2007, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by jassi

if automech is recommended then which automech dealer in bangy

OT but I have never seen a single car in BLR with Automech anything on it.

Mugen_Power · 7th July 2007, 00:22

Excellent Thread..
Cheers to gto and all others..

ananthkamath · 7th July 2007, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1p3r

You could start by contributing your Dolphin to a needy student!

Hey! i am a needy student myself.

theMAG · 16th July 2007, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1p3r

OT but I have never seen a single car in BLR with Automech anything on it.

Yes you have. A black Swift. Not mine. Doesnt have the Automech anymore though.

rdkarthik · 22nd July 2007, 19:46

Very well summarized... Good going gang...

Few things i would like to add based on my experience...

Standalones offers performance gains irrespective of the engine being stock or modified, its just the magnitude that changes... The posts have suggested the standalone as Stage 3 mods, i dont think that justifies its benefits..

Just for a reference, Group N rally spec cars are almost stock save for intake and exhaust systems , and one of the significant add-ons on them have been the standalone ECUs - in rallies we have had chipped esteems taking on and beating balenos many a times - ... Or take the recent test of V-Box equipped bone-stock swift, performance gains have been quite significant in acceleration, roll-ons and drivability.....

I am not promoting anything here, but i can safely say engine control is someting that is needed to get the best out of an engine irrespective of its state of tune.

sabret00the · 22nd July 2007, 22:51

@ GTO : very nice compilation...extremely informative and well arranged

Moby · 22nd July 2007, 23:44

A very intresting thread in typical layman style.

GTO · 23rd July 2007, 13:40

Quote:

Standalones offers performance gains irrespective of the engine being stock or modified, its just the magnitude that changes... The posts have suggested the standalone as Stage 3 mods, i dont think that justifies its benefits..

Thanks for the comments, RD. I think the experts have included it in stage three as its best to attack the ECU at the very last stage? What if you get significant modifications after fitting a stand-alone? Wouldnt that mean a double cost as the stand-alone would have to be changed / tuned again?

Or is it possible to get a scaleable stand-alone?

Vid6639 · 23rd July 2007, 14:13

The standalone ecu can be changed based on mods done to the engine or otherwise. I guess it's just a matter of having the software and connecting it to the pc.

Even the piggy-back's like pete's box I think have 2-3 modes depending on other mods done.

6th July 2007, 23:37	#34
jassi BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 980 Thanked: 12 Times View My Garage	awesome thread - I did read the "dude i bolted 25bhp" thread but this thread is a good concise representation of it all in one place. I have been planning to do some mods on my santro xing erlx for quite sometime (once i have the cash ) and looking forward to getting some of the stage 1 stuff i.e. ffe and CAI. when i am ready will disturb our bangy modders on the best places to get stuff done Do you guys think cars like santro respond well to mods - I have never heard anyone on this thread do any of the stage 2 stuff on a santro. Anyways my aim is just try different things on santro till I move to a new more modworthy car next year Thanks again for all the education on mods guys - tbhp rocks!!
	() Thanks

6th July 2007, 23:49	#35
Sudipto-S-Team Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 1,319 Thanked: 292 Times View My Garage	I don't know if it is proper but we should have a city-wise list of competent people/workshops who can carry out these modifications and some endorsements of brands to go for. But there has to be a quality check on this, otherwise it has dangerous implications. What say mods?
	() Thanks

7th July 2007, 00:18	#36
jassi BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 980 Thanked: 12 Times View My Garage	yes I was going to ask for that too - A reliable list of workshops for every region which is tried & tested by tbhpians. Newbies like me are happy with the awesome tech advise but would be happiest if we knew the most reliable place to do it for example - if automech is recommended then which automech dealer in bangy, cold air intake then which is the best K&N authorized dealer who also does a perfect job of the air intake mandrel bent plumbing and then porting/polishing stage 2 workshops, etc Now i know I can get the list of K&N dealers in bangalore from K&n site or surf automech site to guide me to their bangy dealers, but which one is tbhp recommended would mean a lot
	() Thanks

7th July 2007, 00:22	#38
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 19 Times	Excellent Thread.. Cheers to gto and all others..
	() Thanks

22nd July 2007, 19:46	#41
rdkarthik BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 206 Thanked: 13 Times	Very well summarized... Good going gang... Few things i would like to add based on my experience... Standalones offers performance gains irrespective of the engine being stock or modified, its just the magnitude that changes... The posts have suggested the standalone as Stage 3 mods, i dont think that justifies its benefits.. Just for a reference, Group N rally spec cars are almost stock save for intake and exhaust systems , and one of the significant add-ons on them have been the standalone ECUs - in rallies we have had chipped esteems taking on and beating balenos many a times - ... Or take the recent test of V-Box equipped bone-stock swift, performance gains have been quite significant in acceleration, roll-ons and drivability..... I am not promoting anything here, but i can safely say engine control is someting that is needed to get the best out of an engine irrespective of its state of tune.
	() Thanks

22nd July 2007, 22:51	#42
sabret00the BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: YYC \| BLR \| CCU Posts: 691 Thanked: 55 Times View My Garage	@ GTO : very nice compilation...extremely informative and well arranged
	() Thanks

22nd July 2007, 23:44	#43
Moby BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: TRV Posts: 56 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	A very intresting thread in typical layman style.
	() Thanks

23rd July 2007, 14:13	#45
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,689 Thanked: 44,148 Times View My Garage	The standalone ecu can be changed based on mods done to the engine or otherwise. I guess it's just a matter of having the software and connecting it to the pc. Even the piggy-back's like pete's box I think have 2-3 modes depending on other mods done.
	() Thanks