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Originally Posted by 2cents ^^ me too thinks it should be 'Motors'. Or perhaps, they still wanted it to sound japanese - 'hiromoto', like 'aginomoto'. |
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Originally Posted by ani_meher They should name it as Hero Hando. The O name end and similar phonetic name, both birds will be killed by one stone. |
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Originally Posted by ottocycle "Hero Hindustani" could a be good name. The acronym remains the same.
Another option, Hero Hindustan Motors. |
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Originally Posted by thedreamcatcher Sounds Japanese now. Imagine an old shaolin monk saying it while training his pupil to break a log
Heyroh Mottohh... Yoohhhh
Well what else rhymes with it. Oh yes, Ajino Moto |
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Originally Posted by D.V.R Instead of HeroMoto I feel they should have named it as HeroHondo as it is pretty close to HeroHonda. |
First things first, before shooting off silly suggestions, you need to understand a little context. Hero Honda is no longer a jv (as is well known). To my knowledge, the terms and conditions of the jv allow Hero to use the HH name on all existing models. However, this is really not a long-term solution since this will ensure that they thrive on past success. Bajaj and TVS were in similar positions about a decade ago when they knew that they would, in the future, part ways with Kawasaki and Suzuki. They did what Hero Honda did not - invest in R&D. They struggled, they faltered but today, they are starting to reap the rewards. The first couple of generations of Pulsars weren't the greatest, but each succeeding generation has seen improvement and they now have a product successful enough to stand on its own (by dropping 'Bajaj' from the branding). TVS came out with the Victor which wasn't the most inspiring. But that, along with their constant push on domestic track circuits, has seen them improve in leaps and bounds. Today the Apache rules the roost in its segment. Both these brands have the strength to stand apart from their JV partners. Notice also that their strength and their relationship has meant that neither Kawasaki nor Suzuki have even entered their space really. Suzuki has launched in India but they aren't even viewed as serious competition in the motorcycling arena. In the scooter segment its a different ballgame and TVS, which had a head start way back when, really dropped the ball on that one. In all this what did HH do? Jack s*it! They haven't had a single iconic design of their own. Now, they're in trouble. They sell millions of commuter bikes ALL of which were Honda designs. Now they have NO R&D capability. They have a window of time (perhaps about 3 to 5 years) in which to build an independent brand which is capable of picking up where HH left off.
This is the context in which they called in Wolff Olins
Wolff Olins to create new brand identity for Hero - Economic Times Hero Honda Partners with Wolff Olins for Hero’s Brand Development
For those of you who don't know, Wolff Olins are among the most respected brand consultants in the world. They are nobody's fool!
Now, for those bright suggestions which I quoted above, please understand that HH is a monster brand - a respected, iconic, Indian household brand. Making it into a 'Hero Hando' or 'Hero Hondo' or 'Hero Hindustan' or whatever is just not an option. Aping the Japanese is the route that a 'fraud brand' would take. It is a very shortsighted view and is laughable at best. No serious brand would do that. Coming up with something like that is equal to finding fake t-shirts and auto parts in the Daryaganjs of the world. Imagine buying a Joo Rocket jacket or worse a Kwasaki Ninji bike. Its just plain idiotic and a recipe for brand suicide.
An Indian name is not even an option because it instantly sets you back 2 decades in brand perception. The second you use 'Hindustan' in a brand, there is no way you can position yourself as advanced, tech-led, agile and corporate. You will automatically be associated with the good ol' Amby's of the world.
In the end Hero Moto doesn't sound like the greatest, I do admit. However, given the options, trust me when I say it isn't the worst either. Please also understand that the COMPANY NAME is being registered. How they choose to use their BRAND (which is an entirely different thing) is a different story. For example, look how TATA has handled the MANZA. It is no longer 'INDIGO MANZA' but just MANZA. This is because the INDIGO is now associated with taxis and therefore cannot be positioned as aspirational. Similarly, we'll have to wait and see how Hero chooses to address their situation.
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Originally Posted by Gooney The exercise of renaming Hero Honda brings to perspective the immense intangible value the word Honda brought to the brand name. I admit in the '80s not many consumers were aware of Honda as a brand, and any other name would have added the same brand value to Hero. However, things are very different now and consumers are much more aware, and the weakness of Hero as a name and brand becomes painfully acute now. No matter how many permutations and combinations it tries, Hero on its own has a very very uphill task in filling Hero Honda's shoes (beand name - wise). |
+1000! And this is the nub of the problem
Cheers,
Rahul