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Old 6th May 2024, 19:06   #526
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Had a question about the first service.
I'm going to be in the middle of a ride, and as per my calculations will only be able to get the first service done at 640km.

Is this a cause of concern? Can it harm the bike or affect warranty?
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Had a question about the first service.
I'm going to be in the middle of a ride, and as per my calculations will only be able to get the first service done at 640km.

Is this a cause of concern? Can it harm the bike or affect warranty?
It won't harm the bike but not sure of the warranty. Better dial up RE service and ask them.
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Old 8th May 2024, 09:17   #529
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It won't harm the bike but not sure of the warranty. Better dial up RE service and ask them.
To be frank, I'm not so sure about your "won't harm" statement. Initial oil will have so much debris in it which could cause some wear and tear on the engine. Though I agree it might not have immediate impact, long term reliability of engine might be an issue. From what I read over some blogs, expert YT channels, we should be considering first oil change much before manufacturer recommended km. Some even claims 200 to 300kms would be ideal for longer reliability. But I still trust on instructions on vehicle manuals.

I believe, should they choose to do, this could be one instance RE can always point out to deny any claims related to engine's warranty.
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Old 8th May 2024, 10:31   #530
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To be frank, I'm not so sure about your "won't harm" statement. Initial oil will have so much debris in it which could cause some wear and tear on the engine. Though I agree it might not have immediate impact, long term reliability of engine might be an issue.
That's why we have something called the oil filter. As per your logic, the engine should go bust at 501 kilometres with all the so called "debris" from a brand new engine. I'm speaking in the context of the OPs situation here. 140 kilometres more which the OP claims he is doing shouldn't harm the engine. This was confirmed by REs technician as well. His words - "You can bring the bike even after doing more kilometres but don't bring it one day late than what is recommended in the service manual as computer won't accept a free service after the date." Long term reliability is anybody's guess. Again context, we are talking about 140 kilometres more not 1400 kilometres.
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From what I read over some blogs, expert YT channels, we should be considering first oil change much before manufacturer recommended km. Some even claims 200 to 300kms would be ideal for longer reliability. But I still trust on instructions on vehicle manuals.
Hey, it's their money. They can change oil every day if they have plenty of it. If you trust the instruction manual, then why do you contradict yourself by calling these YT channels as "expert".
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I believe, should they choose to do, this could be one instance RE can always point out to deny any claims related to engine's warranty.
I've explicitly said in my last post to dial up the RE service center for warranty questions. As per my service advisor, it won't impact the warranty. But this is Coimbatore service center. Warranties are purely at the mercy of your local service center. Dialling them up is the only way to know.

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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

Personally, and especially on anything coming out of Thiruvottutyur, if I'm hoing on a longish ride, then I'm going with fresh oil and filters, and a clutch, brake pad, chain and cables check/replace SOS.

Oil is cheap. Bullet cylinder assemblies are not.

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It won't harm the bike but not sure of the warranty. Better dial up RE service and ask them.
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I believe, should they choose to do, this could be one instance RE can always point out to deny any claims related to engine's warranty.
Thanks, I called my service centre - they said not to push it beyond 600. I'm going to try and get a service done in Pune in the middle of my trip if I can.
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Had a question about the first service.
I'm going to be in the middle of a ride, and as per my calculations will only be able to get the first service done at 640km.

Is this a cause of concern? Can it harm the bike or affect warranty?
Must be a very short ride, if your bike is so new and you are going to be in the middle if it at 500 km, and end the ride at 650. So you are probably already at 350 odd km. Your piston rings are seated, as have other moving parts, and now you need to properly run in the engine over different rpm's and heat cycles over the next 2-3000 km as you introduce it to higher speeds.

Bottom line ... why not simply get your service and new oil before you start the ride. 150 extra km on the old oil is not worth the pain of a break in your ride in an unfamiliar city and service center for the critical first service and oil change. Logistically it just spoils the enjoyment of a ride.

For a 6-7000 ride or a 8-10,000 km ride I can understand it. For Bullets, even anything upwards of 3000 km will need a service and oil change at the fag end, preferably just before your high speed (for Bullets) haul home.

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That's why we have something called the oil filter. As per your logic, the engine should go bust at 501 kilometres with all the so called "debris" from a brand new engine.
By your logic, first service is just a scam. Right? Your oil filter will do every protection needed. Just for sake of warranty, you change oil on 45th day, even if you run 5000km within this period.

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If you trust the instruction manual, then why do you contradict yourself by calling these YT channels as "expert".
There is no contradiction here. Why I called them experts because they explain in depth working of machines that I was not much aware. That does not mean I blindly follow what they say. I still follow what manual says.

I have completed my first service yesterday at 480km and I could feel change in engine heat, where it used to get a lot hotter in 15-20km ride. After service I was riding back home at noon, and heat generated is less than I anticipated. My service advisor also informed same before I leave the service center that heat would get less with oil change.

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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

How is the spares situation? I asked for extra clutch cable during service, but they say they have not received it from RE for the new Himalayan. Should I be worried? Service by all gentlemen at the service center was top-notch, by the way!
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Well, it seems fix is near by. Below is the reply from RE customer care for my complaint on connectivity with pixel.

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Update on connectivity issue with pixel 7 - RE service executive claimed fix would be available by April 30. Pixel updates usually comes on first Monday of every month (PST). Yesterday I have updated and confirm that the issue is not yet fixed. I have informed same to RE over email.
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Must be a very short ride, if your bike is so new and you are going to be in the middle if it at 500 km, and end the ride at 650.

Cheers, Doc
Going to be at 320 KM when I start, will be going to Pune and back. Honestly, wanted to get the servicing done at my home centre so I can start building a relationship there. Before I start is not an option, because of a time crunch in the work week.

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Update on connectivity issue with pixel 7 - RE service executive claimed fix would be available by April 30. Pixel updates usually comes on first Monday of every month (PST). Yesterday I have updated and confirm that the issue is not yet fixed. I have informed same to RE over email.
Yes, same - updated today morning. Cleared cache etc as well - no luck. This is getting a little frustrating.
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

Just found out that Adam Riemann of Motology Films is filming a Nepal - India trip on the Himalayan! Really can't wait for his videos, this may well be the last word from someone who may be as close as it gets to a proper expert on everything about ADVs.

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Service by all gentlemen at the service center was top-notch, by the way!
Which Service centre is this in Bangalore?
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Just found out that Adam Riemann of Motology Films is filming a Nepal - India trip on the Himalayan! Really can't wait for his videos, this may well be the last word from someone who may be as close as it gets to a proper expert on everything about ADVs.

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Looks like he is running a pirelli scorpion. The pirelli website doesn't have a match for himalayan size.
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