Yuppie! New Karizma on cards!!! EDIT- Now Launched !!

deepclutch · 19th September 2009, 23:42

Anyone Saw the Pictures of ZM-R Ready for Launch?Specifications are Very Disappointing,if What I read elsewhere.

Country Road · 20th September 2009, 01:35

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Originally Posted by nilesh111

Yes Guys this is the bike, there was a 4 day , shooting at my place for a new ad for this bike, there were 3 bikes and they looked exactly like shown in the pics, cud not take close up pics of the bike but there is definitely a radiator like cooling system at the front and the bike is for sure 223 cc engine

Where in India did they shoot? With whome? When was it? This should give us some idea as to when it will be launched. I saw some pics but it looked like a racering bike. But HH & racing bike?????

rohitabc · 20th September 2009, 13:58

Guys bike is already lanuched yesterday. I am disappointed :( by the specs ..

akshay4587 · 20th September 2009, 14:06

Specs have not been released by HH yet
only pics are out

heavy_foot · 20th September 2009, 15:06

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Originally Posted by rohitabc

Guys bike is already lanuched yesterday. I am disappointed :( by the specs ..

can you post a link to the specs?

Sarvodaya · 20th September 2009, 16:03

Here are the boring specs! Yawn. What was HH thinking? Only 17.6 ps power and they claim 135 KMPH top speed. The original styling was good. Got it from Indian Auto Talk Blog Archive Exclusive : Karizma ZMR launched!

The new Karizma ZMR FI comes with the same 223 cc engine but now augmented with fuel injection which increases the power marginally at 17.6 bhp @ 7000 rpm with a maximum torque of 18.35 nm. Hero Honda also claims a top speed of 135 kmph.

The list of changes to the new Karizma include:
* Full Fairing
* Split Clip On Handle Bars
* Split rear grab rails
* New Colors
* PGM-FI (Programmable Fuel Injection)
* Mirrors mounted on the fairing
* New rear mud guard
* New headlamp and tail lamp which are now LED
* Fairing mounted front indicators
* New Graphics (Traditionally Hero Honda)
* Slightly reprofiled body work
* Gas Charged Rear Shock Absorbers

Price is expected to be 92,000 Ex showroom

redrage · 20th September 2009, 19:37

The front styling looks pathetic! After seeing the link i thought its a picture of a new Apache at first and then .... Oh no!!

17.6 PS?? You gotta be kidding. I would be really happy if can get a rear disk fitted from the ZMR on my ZMA.

given2fly · 21st September 2009, 07:54

The bike looks absolutely pathetic compared to the older version. They should have retained the looks of older Karizma like Honda does for their VFR. The new looks makes this look like a bigger sibling of CBZ Xtreme with fuller fairing. :(

balenopower · 21st September 2009, 13:32

The new bike is approx 9 kg heavier than the old one..The previous zma was already heavy at 150 kgs. Expect drab acceleration figures. HH has goofed up again!

deepclutch · 21st September 2009, 16:32

Even with this slight increase of power ,new ZM-R will Get Customers.Well ,it got a long Stroke Engine Perfect for touring along with that 223 CC Engine Which won't Strain.PGM-FI will make the throttle response very proper(Crisper).Mileage will be Better.Full Fairing Helps in Cooling Better(While Riding).Oil Cooler is also there according to what I read online.

Gripe is some 10kgs are More on this Bike Making it 160kgs of Dry Weight?

Almost Weighs as Much as a RE Bullet.The Bhp and Torque Figures Expected are at 19-20bhp,but it is NOT.Fine.

TheARUN · 22nd September 2009, 10:32

Here's a more recent picture I found. Honestly, I see more people walking towards the YAMAHA showrooms after this launch.

On a bigger note, I think HONDA is killing off HERO HONDA slowly by starving it off models. It should split away and get together with some renegade chinese bike makers to flood the country with exotic stuff from China. Ya Chinese quality is bad, but HERO can bring in their decades of experiene and clean up the mess

prince_pervez · 22nd September 2009, 10:37

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Originally Posted by deepclutch

Full Fairing Helps in Cooling Better(While Riding).

I'm not sure about the validity of the above statement. But the Bike looks mean. They could have done much better though. People would like to take a look at Yaam's offerings too, for 92K.

Technocrat · 22nd September 2009, 11:03

While I too am a bit disappointed I wont say it would be flop besides I need to see it in person to be able to comment really on the looks.

There are many people who put clip-ons & full fairing to the ZMA (atleast in Pune) so this would be natural choice to them & Fi will give them boasting rights to.

Also how does the FI really benefit this new ZMA.

sammyboy · 22nd September 2009, 11:29

I rushed to the forum as soon as I read the news in TOI. I guess the Fi might make a difference but will reserve my judgement until someone takes a TR and pics.

Spitfire · 22nd September 2009, 11:35

They have copied the headlamp off a Suzuki GS 150, which in turn has been taken from the new Gixxers.

The fairing looks like the one's we get in the aftermarket - ugly and badly designed. Looks like an afterthought and doesn't look in line with the rest of the bike.

Thumps down for now. But need to see and ride one first before i go running it into the dust.

19th September 2009, 23:42	#76
deepclutch Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Muvattupuzha Posts: 1,167 Thanked: 164 Times	Anyone Saw the Pictures of ZM-R Ready for Launch?Specifications are Very Disappointing,if What I read elsewhere.
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20th September 2009, 13:58	#78
rohitabc BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 60 Thanked: 0 Times	Guys bike is already lanuched yesterday. I am disappointed :( by the specs .. Last edited by rohitabc : 20th September 2009 at 14:00.
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20th September 2009, 14:06	#79
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,152 Thanked: 4,553 Times View My Garage	Specs have not been released by HH yet only pics are out
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20th September 2009, 16:03	#81
Sarvodaya BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 493 Thanked: 830 Times	Here are the boring specs! Yawn. What was HH thinking? Only 17.6 ps power and they claim 135 KMPH top speed. The original styling was good. Got it from Indian Auto Talk Blog Archive Exclusive : Karizma ZMR launched! The new Karizma ZMR FI comes with the same 223 cc engine but now augmented with fuel injection which increases the power marginally at 17.6 bhp @ 7000 rpm with a maximum torque of 18.35 nm. Hero Honda also claims a top speed of 135 kmph. The list of changes to the new Karizma include: * Full Fairing * Split Clip On Handle Bars * Split rear grab rails * New Colors * PGM-FI (Programmable Fuel Injection) * Mirrors mounted on the fairing * New rear mud guard * New headlamp and tail lamp which are now LED * Fairing mounted front indicators * New Graphics (Traditionally Hero Honda) * Slightly reprofiled body work * Gas Charged Rear Shock Absorbers Price is expected to be 92,000 Ex showroom
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20th September 2009, 19:37	#82
redrage BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 557 Thanked: 106 Times	The front styling looks pathetic! After seeing the link i thought its a picture of a new Apache at first and then .... Oh no!! 17.6 PS?? You gotta be kidding. I would be really happy if can get a rear disk fitted from the ZMR on my ZMA.
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21st September 2009, 07:54	#83
given2fly BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 214 Thanked: 0 Times	The bike looks absolutely pathetic compared to the older version. They should have retained the looks of older Karizma like Honda does for their VFR. The new looks makes this look like a bigger sibling of CBZ Xtreme with fuller fairing. :(
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21st September 2009, 13:32	#84
balenopower BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 957 Thanked: 466 Times View My Garage	The new bike is approx 9 kg heavier than the old one..The previous zma was already heavy at 150 kgs. Expect drab acceleration figures. HH has goofed up again!
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21st September 2009, 16:32	#85
deepclutch Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Muvattupuzha Posts: 1,167 Thanked: 164 Times	Even with this slight increase of power ,new ZM-R will Get Customers.Well ,it got a long Stroke Engine Perfect for touring along with that 223 CC Engine Which won't Strain.PGM-FI will make the throttle response very proper(Crisper).Mileage will be Better.Full Fairing Helps in Cooling Better(While Riding).Oil Cooler is also there according to what I read online. Gripe is some 10kgs are More on this Bike Making it 160kgs of Dry Weight? Almost Weighs as Much as a RE Bullet.The Bhp and Torque Figures Expected are at 19-20bhp,but it is NOT.Fine. Last edited by deepclutch : 21st September 2009 at 16:34.
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22nd September 2009, 10:32	#86
TheARUN Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,381 Thanked: 977 Times View My Garage	Here's a more recent picture I found. Honestly, I see more people walking towards the YAMAHA showrooms after this launch. On a bigger note, I think HONDA is killing off HERO HONDA slowly by starving it off models. It should split away and get together with some renegade chinese bike makers to flood the country with exotic stuff from China. Ya Chinese quality is bad, but HERO can bring in their decades of experiene and clean up the mess Attached Thumbnails
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22nd September 2009, 11:03	#88
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,815 Thanked: 2,703 Times	While I too am a bit disappointed I wont say it would be flop besides I need to see it in person to be able to comment really on the looks. There are many people who put clip-ons & full fairing to the ZMA (atleast in Pune) so this would be natural choice to them & Fi will give them boasting rights to. Also how does the FI really benefit this new ZMA.
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22nd September 2009, 11:29	#89
sammyboy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ggn/Dehradun Posts: 1,842 Thanked: 523 Times View My Garage	I rushed to the forum as soon as I read the news in TOI. I guess the Fi might make a difference but will reserve my judgement until someone takes a TR and pics.
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22nd September 2009, 11:35	#90
Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,313 Thanked: 777 Times	They have copied the headlamp off a Suzuki GS 150, which in turn has been taken from the new Gixxers. The fairing looks like the one's we get in the aftermarket - ugly and badly designed. Looks like an afterthought and doesn't look in line with the rest of the bike. Thumps down for now. But need to see and ride one first before i go running it into the dust.
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