Indian Two Wheelers that flopped

sushrutha · 20th August 2009, 12:05

How about Kinteic Comet 250 & Aquila ? Only limited number of bikes were manufactured ?

prince_pervez · 20th August 2009, 12:16

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Originally Posted by sushrutha

How about Kinteic Comet 250 & Aquila ? Only limited number of bikes were manufactured ?

Comet as a flopped bike is arguable.
But one thing is sure.
The RD350, Comet 250, Bajaj Endura were all launched at the wrong time.
If they were to be launched today, it would be an entirely different scene.
But then again, 2 strokers were forced to shut shop since Y2K in India.
There I contradicted myself.

fieroid · 20th August 2009, 14:10

The Bajaj Eliminator was sold in very limited numbers and back in 2003, Bajaj decided to pull it off. Thats when some brainy fellow at Bajaj decided to shov the pulsar engine and relaunch with a revised tag.

A few more flops,
Hero Honda,
HH Sleek
HH Achiever
HH Street
HH Joy
HH Hunk (slowly fading away)
HH Ambition 135
HH Glamour FI (hardly sells)

Hero Motors,
Hero Winner
Hero Puch Shakti
Hero Puch Turbo
Hero puch Automatic
Hero Majestic
Hero Panther
Hero Smart
Hero Puch 3G
Hero Puch HD

Royal Enfield,
RE Lightening 535
RE Mini Bullet 175
RE Zundapp Fury 175
RE Zundapp Explorer
RE Zundapp Silverplus
RE Fantabulous

Ideal Jawa,
Yezdi Monarch 250
Yezdi Colt
Yezdi 175
Yezdi Oilking

The Kinetic Comet 250 was sold in limited numbers however, it recieved luke water responses. The bikes were just about pushed out of the showrooms. The Aquilia sold in a worse state than the Comet.

Joel

Sha · 20th August 2009, 14:15

Hero Puch was never flopped i guess it sold very well in Tamil Nadu, I had three heroPuch. one with 50CC only launched in Tamil nadu other I had was Shakti 3G and 2 Gears but was lovely vehicle.

Anybody has photo of TVS EKO it was like mofa but with 60CC engine.

Ajaybiz · 20th August 2009, 16:29

50 CC Hero Puch is news for me as i had 2 Puchs the very first in 1989 and another one in 1992, never heard of 50CC version, can you give link or pics of that moped.

akshay4587 · 20th August 2009, 18:20

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Originally Posted by sushrutha

How about Kinteic Comet 250 & Aquila ? Only limited number of bikes were manufactured ?

I am riding a comet these days
and no ways you can call it flop,all the limited stock was sold out and it still commands a premium in the Used market,and is a decent performer on road.

prince_pervez · 20th August 2009, 18:25

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Originally Posted by akshay4587

I am riding a comet these days
and no ways you can call it flop,all the limited stock was sold out and it still commands a premium in the Used market,and is a decent performer on road.

+1 to that. It would sell even today if it is re-produced.

rranjith_kum · 20th August 2009, 18:37

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Originally Posted by prince_pervez

+1 to that. It would sell even today if it is re-produced.

I think you can still get one in selected cities ! I heard that you can talk to Kinetic straight if you want one. I am not sure of the source.

akshay4587 · 20th August 2009, 18:56

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Originally Posted by rranjith_kum

I think you can still get one in selected cities ! I heard that you can talk to Kinetic straight if you want one. I am not sure of the source.

no you cannot and i also doubt kinetic's existence

yzfrj · 20th August 2009, 20:36

I find most of the posts in this thread pointless.
A car/bike or whatever can be classified as a "flop/failure/dud"

If

It fails to sell as expected (Manufacturers perspective.)

Failed to live up to the expectations of the buyer (say 70% users says its bad.)

Was a bad product (quality/pricing/reliability/after sales support)

Other than that writing pages on end listing all the names of bikes/mopeds and whatever is utterly pointless.

Mopeds are dud's, right ?
Go to rural Tamilnadu, I've seen axles of tractors being carried on these things.

It serves the purpose (and more) of the targeted user.
Wanna call it dud again ?

Calling classics like RD350 as "flopped".
I don't want to say more and get banned for life from this forum.

I hope someone get the right sense and close this thread.

Thanks.

PS: This is purely my personal view and I'm off this pointless thread for good.

hillram · 20th August 2009, 20:41

PL 170 was a differrent kind of sccoter and it was not from LML stable,if im right.

gaddiwale · 20th August 2009, 21:15

I'm surprised to see Yamaha Rajdoot (Yamdoot) RD350's name in this list! This is one of the finest bike ever produced in Indian soil. Even today this mean machine is one of the sought after bike among enthusiasts. Just it came out ahaed of it's time and not done excellent in terms of sales that doesn't mean RD350 was a failure.

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Originally Posted by fieroid

A few flops in the Indian scene from the 90s were the following,

TVS
* TVS Spectra - Superb engine and build, but pricing and advertising killed it
* TVS centra - crap
* TVS 50 XT
* TVS Super Champ 60
* TVS Asta 60
* TVS Sport
* TVS Victor GLX 125
* TVS champ 50 (not 60)
* TVS Express
* TVS suzuki Supra Power-up
* TVS suzuki Shaolin

Bajaj
* Bajaj M80 4-s
* Bajaj Eliminator 175
* Bajaj Aspire
* Bajaj Caliber croma
* Bajaj Spirit
* Bajaj wave
* Bajaj Saffire
* Bajaj Caliber 115
* Bajaj KB125
* Bajaj Prowler 125
* Bajaj Sunny / zip
* Bajaj Chetak 4s
* Bajaj Super FE
* Bajaj Rave
* Bajaj BYK
* Bajaj Legend
* Bajaj Stride
* Bajaj Bravo
* Bajaj Krystal
and some more

Kinetic
* Kinetic Campus Chill 100
* Kinetic K4100
* Kinetic Safari V2
* Kinetic Pride v2
* Kinetic 110 ZX
* Kinetic 4S
* Kinetic Boss
* Kinetic Challenger
* Kinetic Velocity
* Kinetic strike
* Kinetic Blaze 165
* Kinetic GF125
* Kinetic GF 175 sport/city
* Kinetic Style
and a few more

LML
LML Adreno
LML Energy
LML Adreno FX
LML Energy FX
LML Supremo
LML Select II
LML Freedom
LML Graptor
LML Beamer
LML Freedom prima
LML Freedom DLX
LML Trendy

Yamaha
Yamaha RD350
Yamaha RXG
Yamaha RXZ 4-speed
Yamaha RX 5-speed
Yamaha Alba
Yamaha Enticer
Yamaha YBX
Yamaha YD 125
Yamaha Fazer 125
Yamaha Gladiator version 1

will update the rest later....

Cheers,

Joel

badboyscad · 20th August 2009, 21:20

Escorts Ace (1998 i guess)

Indian Two Wheelers that flopped-rajdoot_ace.jpg

vipinmohan · 20th August 2009, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillram

PL 170 was a differrent kind of sccoter and it was not from LML stable,if im right.

yes,it was not from LML.Andhrapradesh scooters ltd produced vespa PL 170 scooters.my father had one.he bought it in 1986.

alok_balsekar · 21st August 2009, 06:45

Hi ... Lets not forget the Royal enfield flops:

1> Enfield Fantabulus Scooter (c. 1960s)
2> Enfield Sherpa (Villiers engine 125cc 2-stroke)
3> Enfield Crusader (175 cc 2-stroke)
4> Enfield Mini Bullet (200 cc 2-stroke)
4> Enfield-Zundapp Fury (175 cc 2-stroke, 1st Indian 5-speed bike with Mag wheels and Cdi-driven Tacho ... c 1984)
5> Enfield-Zundapp Explorer (50cc 2-stroke)

20th August 2009, 12:05	#61
sushrutha Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chikmagalur/Ban Posts: 1,703 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	How about Kinteic Comet 250 & Aquila ? Only limited number of bikes were manufactured ?
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20th August 2009, 14:10	#63
fieroid BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 706 Thanked: 304 Times	The Bajaj Eliminator was sold in very limited numbers and back in 2003, Bajaj decided to pull it off. Thats when some brainy fellow at Bajaj decided to shov the pulsar engine and relaunch with a revised tag. A few more flops, Hero Honda, HH Sleek HH Achiever HH Street HH Joy HH Hunk (slowly fading away) HH Ambition 135 HH Glamour FI (hardly sells) Hero Motors, Hero Winner Hero Puch Shakti Hero Puch Turbo Hero puch Automatic Hero Majestic Hero Panther Hero Smart Hero Puch 3G Hero Puch HD Royal Enfield, RE Lightening 535 RE Mini Bullet 175 RE Zundapp Fury 175 RE Zundapp Explorer RE Zundapp Silverplus RE Fantabulous Ideal Jawa, Yezdi Monarch 250 Yezdi Colt Yezdi 175 Yezdi Oilking The Kinetic Comet 250 was sold in limited numbers however, it recieved luke water responses. The bikes were just about pushed out of the showrooms. The Aquilia sold in a worse state than the Comet. Joel
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20th August 2009, 14:15	#64
Sha BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canberra Posts: 539 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Hero Puch was never flopped i guess it sold very well in Tamil Nadu, I had three heroPuch. one with 50CC only launched in Tamil nadu other I had was Shakti 3G and 2 Gears but was lovely vehicle. Anybody has photo of TVS EKO it was like mofa but with 60CC engine.
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20th August 2009, 16:29	#65
Ajaybiz BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,440 Thanked: 320 Times View My Garage	50 CC Hero Puch is news for me as i had 2 Puchs the very first in 1989 and another one in 1992, never heard of 50CC version, can you give link or pics of that moped.
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20th August 2009, 20:36	#70
yzfrj BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: who cares Posts: 787 Thanked: 142 Times	I find most of the posts in this thread pointless. A car/bike or whatever can be classified as a "flop/failure/dud" If It fails to sell as expected (Manufacturers perspective.) Failed to live up to the expectations of the buyer (say 70% users says its bad.) Was a bad product (quality/pricing/reliability/after sales support) Other than that writing pages on end listing all the names of bikes/mopeds and whatever is utterly pointless. Mopeds are dud's, right ? Go to rural Tamilnadu, I've seen axles of tractors being carried on these things. It serves the purpose (and more) of the targeted user. Wanna call it dud again ? Calling classics like RD350 as "flopped". I don't want to say more and get banned for life from this forum. I hope someone get the right sense and close this thread. Thanks. PS: This is purely my personal view and I'm off this pointless thread for good.
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20th August 2009, 20:41	#71
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	PL 170 was a differrent kind of sccoter and it was not from LML stable,if im right.
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20th August 2009, 21:20	#73
badboyscad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TN Posts: 1,511 Thanked: 477 Times View My Garage	Escorts Ace (1998 i guess)
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21st August 2009, 06:45	#75
alok_balsekar BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 115 Thanked: 40 Times View My Garage	Royal Enfield Flops Hi ... Lets not forget the Royal enfield flops: 1> Enfield Fantabulus Scooter (c. 1960s) 2> Enfield Sherpa (Villiers engine 125cc 2-stroke) 3> Enfield Crusader (175 cc 2-stroke) 4> Enfield Mini Bullet (200 cc 2-stroke) 4> Enfield-Zundapp Fury (175 cc 2-stroke, 1st Indian 5-speed bike with Mag wheels and Cdi-driven Tacho ... c 1984) 5> Enfield-Zundapp Explorer (50cc 2-stroke)
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