Yamaha may resurrect RX 100 in 4-stroke

Rahulkool · 20th January 2010, 11:35

why don't they keep it 2 stroke, there are many cleaner 2 stroke engines available around the world with few bike companies.

prince_pervez · 20th January 2010, 11:38

^^ 2 stroke manufacturing was stopped in India from the year 2000. For some emission norms.

trammway · 20th January 2010, 14:20

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Originally Posted by prince_pervez

^^ 2 stroke manufacturing was stopped in India from the year 2000. For some emission norms.

Except TVS all others stopped 2strokes in India. The only running production 2stokes in India are the TVS Super XL and Scooty. I guess Bajaj stopped producing 2stroke auto rickshaws.

abhinav.s · 20th January 2010, 16:22

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Originally Posted by trammway

The only running production 2stokes in India are the TVS Super XL and Scooty.

You might be referring to the Old Scooty & Scooty ES. Scooty Pep onwards it is a four stroke IIRC.

yamdoot · 22nd January 2010, 01:06

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it wont happen..n why shud they?the YBX is a 4stroker with many similarities to the RX.. id be happy if they atleast brought spares for the RX series in the market.. if anyone remembers, escorts had attempted a fourstroker based on the RX chasis and even the RX engine bottom in the 90's .. it was called HN100.. real shitty looking bike.. glad it didnt make into production..

Mpower · 22nd January 2010, 02:48

I'm not sure what exactly they mean??

The FZ16 IS the modern incarnation of the RX100 and carries the same spirit as the original.

deepaktpatil · 22nd January 2010, 09:35

I think it would have been a better idea if Yamaha would have thought of reincarnating RD350. May be resurrect both bikes (RX100 and RD 350).

ACM · 22nd January 2010, 14:21

RD350, AVATAR seems to be a better bet, a 4 stroke RX-100 would need some major tech evolution to match the sound and performance of the earlier RX-100.

Lets remember the RX-135 and the RXZ both variants of the RS-100 flopped miserably.

narayan · 22nd January 2010, 15:05

have owned an RX for around 4 years. if you compare with modern bikes, the RX really cant hold a candle in terms of comfort. also refinement at higher speeds is anybody's guess

for all the attributes for which it was a legend, the same may not be really relevant now. the goal posts have moved on. so lets not do injustice to the legend in the name of resurrection

Beast_of_Burden · 22nd January 2010, 15:17

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Originally Posted by Mpower

I'm not sure what exactly they mean??

The FZ16 IS the modern incarnation of the RX100 and carries the same spirit as the original.

but the FZ16 could do with a more aggressive motor to be even closer in spirit to the RX. I havent ridden an FZ yet, but every single FZ rider seems to be reveling on their steeds, very very reminiscent of the RX.

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Originally Posted by deepaktpatil

I think it would have been a better idea if Yamaha would have thought of reincarnating RD350. May be resurrect both bikes (RX100 and RD 350).

'nuff said.

georgev · 22nd January 2010, 15:42

in malasyia and indonesia still they produce more powerful RXZ and RXK, what emission readings these bikes have ?

Johnny_ · 22nd January 2010, 15:48

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That's good news. Hope they retain the simple looks of the Rx100.

I personally like brute sound (stock) of the old gen Rx100. This cannot be expected out of a 4stroke engine.

I believe it would sound like a Yamaha Crux.

georgev · 7th February 2010, 11:55

Yamaha re-launching RX100 sounds good. Being owned a RX for the last 23 years, I would say that unless it sounds, moves like a 2 stroke RX , just looks will not bring back the old customers to the showroom. If Yamaha can bring in fuel injection on 2strokes to keep pollution as per norms it will be history. If they can’t then they should bring in the SR400 which looks like a big RX, royal classic looks which can even get some of the loyal RE customers as well.

Either case bring back the classics, we love them

gaddiwale · 7th February 2010, 13:26

Not very exciting news. I would have been appriciate if Yamaha announced a new, more powerful, more refined 250/350 cc bike in India, rather than thinking about launcing an age old model with a 4-stroke engine. RX 100 days are gone by, it's a history now, don't repeat HM Ambassador story - putting an Isuzu engine under the bonnet of a 1954 Oxford Morris... Like Rahul Bajaj said Yamaha should stress upon magic of logic rather than emotions and give us something more meaningful and contemporary.

mithunmiranda · 7th February 2010, 13:40

they can still get the two strokes which can rival the 4 strokes on the emission norms while still giving the same power which the earlier two strokes gave.

Two strokes can be made to run a lot cleaner with gasoline direct injection(GDI) , you can read more about it here on wikipedia http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection

the technology is already being used by bajaj on their newer rickshaws. Yamaha only needs to try harder. hope they get something like this on their RD350 and RXs

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Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	I'm not sure what exactly they mean?? The FZ16 IS the modern incarnation of the RX100 and carries the same spirit as the original.
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deepaktpatil BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KA 05, MH 10 Posts: 303 Thanked: 128 Times	I think it would have been a better idea if Yamaha would have thought of reincarnating RD350. May be resurrect both bikes (RX100 and RD 350).
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ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,745 Thanked: 4,361 Times View My Garage	RD350, AVATAR seems to be a better bet, a 4 stroke RX-100 would need some major tech evolution to match the sound and performance of the earlier RX-100. Lets remember the RX-135 and the RXZ both variants of the RS-100 flopped miserably.
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narayan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,114 Thanked: 2,372 Times View My Garage	have owned an RX for around 4 years. if you compare with modern bikes, the RX really cant hold a candle in terms of comfort. also refinement at higher speeds is anybody's guess for all the attributes for which it was a legend, the same may not be really relevant now. the goal posts have moved on. so lets not do injustice to the legend in the name of resurrection
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georgev BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: KL-05 Posts: 233 Thanked: 7 Times	in malasyia and indonesia still they produce more powerful RXZ and RXK, what emission readings these bikes have ?
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georgev BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: KL-05 Posts: 233 Thanked: 7 Times	Yamaha re-launching RX100 sounds good. Being owned a RX for the last 23 years, I would say that unless it sounds, moves like a 2 stroke RX , just looks will not bring back the old customers to the showroom. If Yamaha can bring in fuel injection on 2strokes to keep pollution as per norms it will be history. If they can’t then they should bring in the SR400 which looks like a big RX, royal classic looks which can even get some of the loyal RE customers as well. Either case bring back the classics, we love them Last edited by Eddy : 7th February 2010 at 12:01. Reason: Removing formatting tags.
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gaddiwale BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 399 Thanked: 77 Times	Not very exciting news. I would have been appriciate if Yamaha announced a new, more powerful, more refined 250/350 cc bike in India, rather than thinking about launcing an age old model with a 4-stroke engine. RX 100 days are gone by, it's a history now, don't repeat HM Ambassador story - putting an Isuzu engine under the bonnet of a 1954 Oxford Morris... Like Rahul Bajaj said Yamaha should stress upon magic of logic rather than emotions and give us something more meaningful and contemporary.
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mithunmiranda Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mangalore Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	they can still get the two strokes which can rival the 4 strokes on the emission norms while still giving the same power which the earlier two strokes gave. Two strokes can be made to run a lot cleaner with gasoline direct injection(GDI) , you can read more about it here on wikipedia http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection the technology is already being used by bajaj on their newer rickshaws. Yamaha only needs to try harder. hope they get something like this on their RD350 and RXs
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