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Old 24th March 2024, 20:00   #7291
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Extended warranty and RSA are two aspects on which you can expect to get pestered for renewal during every service.

In my case, decided not to renew both post the 4th year and it has been fine and the car is in its 10th year (touchwood).

Also changed the servicing frequency from every 6 months to once a year for the last 5 years as the car usage had dropped to less than 10K Km running every year.
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Hello All,

We have Honda City 4th Gen in India (purchased in Nov 2022). When I came for a vacation recently, I noticed that headlight performance is mediocre.

Any suggestions for upgrading headlights of a Honda City 4th Gen? I did a quick search in this site, Please point me to useful threads if possible.

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Dear Fellow Cityzens,

I'm reaching out regarding an issue I encountered today with my 4th Gen Honda City iVTec Petrol VX CVT, purchased in March 2016 and running smoothly with 65000 kilometers on the odometer. Today, during a trip to our farm land, which is just an hour's drive from my residence, some weird issues arose.

While parked under a roadside tree, enjoying a snack while waiting for harvesting machines, I noticed the air conditioning ceased functioning. Soon after, the audio system flickered off and on, and a red battery icon appeared. Subsequently, the power steering and ABS lights illuminated, and attempts to lower the windows proved fruitless for the driver's side, though the passenger side responded. This happened in cycles as the audio would go off/on and the error lights would repeat. I opened the bonnet to inspect the battery cables and found them intact.

Called a technician and he advised to switch off AC, audio etc and drive gradually towards a service center. He said the battery is draining again and again and it could be due to alternator problem. As we reduced electrical load, the car gradually returned to normal, with all warning lights extinguished.

Drove back home in 1 hour. Upon reaching home, the vehicle was promptly taken to the service center, where initial diagnostics revealed multiple errors. Being sunday they didnt have their senior technician in house and would get back tmrw morning.

Now I'm left wondering the potential causes:
1. Could it be rodent damage, despite the brief duration of parking and the car's operational status?
2. Is the battery at fault, despite no prior indications of issues during the last service?
3. Might it be an alternator malfunction or a more intricate problem?

I would greatly appreciate any insights or expertise on this matter to facilitate clearer communication with the service center staff.

Attachments : Pic 1 - battery error, Pic2- Power steering error? Pic3 - All errors vanished after switching off ac and driving the car back home. There were other errors like ABS etc which i forgot to take a photo.

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Radiator motor fan failure on 2014 Honda City i-Vtec

We've had a 2014 Honda City i-Vtec MT from new. Its run ~1.5L Km so far.
The car has largely been fuss free - apart from regular maintenance and a few fender benders, our experience with it has been smooth. Still running with the original clutch. Shock absorbers were changed at 1.4L Km.

We are so satisfied with the City, that we got a 2015 City i-Dtec [Diesel], which was replaced with a 2020 City i-Vtec (5th gen). In fact, this 2014 one will be replaced by the next gen City, when it comes.



The radiator fan motor had failed on the car and we didn't notice it. It used to switch on intermittently. This caused the coolant to get super hot, puncture a hole in a radiator pipe and spew coolant in the engine bay.
Thankfully the issue was caught before serious damage was done, the car had lost ~1.5L of coolant.

The following parts need changing now
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I was surprised to hear that the wait time for the parts was 8 days, at Coimbatore.
We've never had to wait for any parts in Kochi - either they were off the shelf or shipped in a couple of days. But we've never needed parts of this sort, so I reserve my comments.

I'm also pleasantly surprised by the cost estimate from Honda Coimbatore. They were notorious for overcharging for their service / repairs. So much so that multiple acquaintances get their Honda cars serviced at Honda Palakkad (40km away)
This estimate here is in line with part costs on Boodmo.
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Our 2018 CVT ticked over 75k kms yesterday. This is our first car ever to cross this mark. Truly has been a fill it, shut it, forget it machine. More than 70k of these kms have been covered under the guise of a city beater in and around Mumbai. Only complaint being the small tank size prompting a fill up after every ~350kms. Have been toying with the idea to replace the car with a new hybrid one but being the car that introduced me to driving, the emotional attachment is holding me back.

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Hi Team BHPians! This is my first proper post on this forum. I'm delighted to be part of this amazing community and I've been an avid reader of all the posts of our forum members. Not sure what inspired me to write a post all of a sudden sitting at my office, but here I am. We got a brand new Honda City SV MT 2 years ago and I wanted to give my shot at writing an ownership review.

A little background of our City:
We got the car on May 3rd 2022. A dark Grey Honda City standing in the front of the showroom glistening with the sunshine reflecting off its body. I was thrilled as I had steered the whole car buying process of my family. We had visited multiple brand showrooms, and I test drove all the cars in the price range of 8 to 15 Lakhs (which was our extended budget from 6L because I wanted a proper sedan ) My dad asked me to test drive all the cars since I had more attention to detail while test driving. All he cared about was the steering position and comfort of the driver seat. I had test driven Nexon, i20, Taigun, Kushaq, Amaze, Creta, Venue and the 5th gen City. Verna was low to the ground, Vento and Rapid had the tunnel running in between the back seats hence making it uncomfortable for the 3rd passenger in the back seat.
City ticked all the boxes for me and we finalized on the 5th gen V MT (manual transmission because of "vtec just kicked in yo!")
The price difference between the 4th gen SV MT and the 5th gen V MT was 3.5L and since we did not want any of the fancy features, the 4th gen ticked all the necessary boxes for us, and hence we went ahead with the SV MT variant of the 4th gen City.

Experience after 2 years of its ownership:

Overall Experience has been great. The car has been a great companion on multiple long drives and has been amazing to drive. It is a perfect balance between a driver's car and a chauffeur driven car. With spacious and comfortable back seats and a 1.5L i-VTEC peppy engine, why would I deny buying it at an amazing deal? Yes, we got this car at a price of 10.5L on road, which I see as an amazing deal! Coming to the good and bad experiences -

The good:

1) The engine is as good as new, didn't give any problems in this tenure of 2 years. Looking at my username you'd have understood I drive it on full throttle when I'm given a chance . I love the grunt it makes at higher RPMs and absolutely love the way the engine handles lower RPMs as well. I have loved every second of driving this car since the day I brought it home and foresee no purchase of a new car for the next 7 to 8 years atleast. A tiny niggle, there wasn't any bonnet insulation, hence I got one on Boodmo and installed it.

2) The car has excellent maneuverability and is a gem to drive on the highways. Delivers power easily to overtake vehicles. If not, then shift down a gear and you fly. Man oh man does it feel good to shift down a gear on this car

3) Coming to the "Kitna deti hai" question, the car gives around 14kmpl on an average. When driven around 80 to 90 kmph on the highways , it gives 18 to 19kmpl mileage whereas it gives 12 or 13kmpl in the city which I think is a very decent mileage.

4) Personally I prefer the looks of the 4th Gen City over the 5th Gen. I feel the 4th Gen is a bit more aggressive compared to the humble looking 5th Gen. I prefer dark colors and the dark Grey was the closest colour to black. It looks stunning during the night as well as in bright sunlight.

5) My dad and I prefer to have halogen headlights to avoid blinding the other vehicles since we are daily victims of being blinded by cars coming with bright LED headlamps somehow always on high beam as well. Also, the halogen lamps on the car were good and gave good visibility in both low and high beams.

6) The car is well insulated and we can barely hear the engine or wind noise (maybe we feel like this because we came from a 11 year old i10), but at high speeds, there is a lot of road noise that comes in, which is pretty uncomfortable.

The bad:

1) The car has run nearly 57,000 kms in its 2 year tenure and hence has got its fair share of wounds over its body including 2 major bumps because of idiots on the road, one being a school bus and the other being a car. The bus dealt a heavy blow on the bonnet, fender and the headlights cracking open the headlight and disfiguring the front of our car. (Sad part is our insurance had expired an year ago and we had no intimation from the insurance company whatsoever and my dad had forgotten to pay it). There are a lot of minor scratches as well and I need to convince my dad to get it worked on by a good service shop.

3) The suspension is a bit hard to my liking and at low speeds the back seat becomes a tad bit uncomfortable. The car goes unscathed over most of the speed breakers and has not been a problem for me

4) The car's air conditioning seems to have a problem, the car doesn't cool the interiors as well as our previous i10, and it takes a very long time to cool the cabin. This complain was given to the service centre last time, but the issue was only temporarily solved and is back now. Need suggestions on what the issue could be, and how it can be resolved.

5) The aftermarket infotainment system that we installed is very bad considering the price we paid for it and the problems it gives us. The GPS doesn't work well and the service centre told us that they cannot rectify it for us since it is not Honda's product. The reason we installed aftermarket system was because even if we got the higher variant, it did not have Android Auto or Apple Carplay. The rear view camera tilts often and everytime the service centre keeps fixing it for us. Not sure why they've fitted a microphone when it cannot capture any audio as well. Absolute waste of money.

6) The shift from 1st to 2nd gear is hard and the gear gets stuck midway from neutral to 2nd gear very often. When we complained about this issue to the service centre, we were told that all 4th gen City's have this issue (whereas I never came across this issue in all the reviews that I read and saw).

7) The clutch plate seems to be wearing out and might need a replacement soon and the front windshield wipers are begging to be replaced.

Thanks for reading, and I look forward to giving subsequent reviews. Below are some photos I've clicked of our beautiful machine.
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The a/c is bad, especially for North Indian summer and there is nothing you can do about it. I had 4th Gen tried the following things.
1. Gas top up - didn’t work
2. Filter clean - didn’t work
3. Condenser clean - didn’t work
4. High pressure switch setting - didn’t work
5. Heat reflective film on windshield - still didn’t work
6. Changed compressor - under warranty - no use

Finally sold the car - only option left that too within warranty.
Has word with several service advisors and they said there is nothing much they can do and ac is weak. They carry about the above things just to satisfy the customer, but when inherently ac is weak there is not much they can do.

3rd Gen honda city ac was a chiller. Has owned that as well.

Finally sold after doing only 32000km.

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6) The shift from 1st to 2nd gear is hard and the gear gets stuck midway from neutral to 2nd gear very often. When we complained about this issue to the service centre, we were told that all 4th gen City's have this issue (whereas I never came across this issue in all the reviews that I read and saw).
I test drove a 4th gen honda city in used car market. I felt the same, the gear shift from 1 to 2 is hard. I felt it was something to do with the car I'm driving, said NO to a great deal. However, I did search if the issue is mentioned on teambhp and could find mentions of the same. All the relevant posts claimed the same, that honda ASS says it's a thing with 4th gens. So, guess your SA might be right.
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The a/c is bad, especially for North Indian summer and there is nothing you can do about it. ...
Have faced this a couple of times on a loaded car on highways with especially the rear passengers complaining about feeling hot.
The only thing that made a positive difference to the cooling was setting the temperature dial to "Lo" with the AC blower at a higher speed and turning the airflow to recirculation mode.
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Dear Fellow Cityzens,

....

Now I'm left wondering the potential causes:
1. Could it be rodent damage, despite the brief duration of parking and the car's operational status?
2. Is the battery at fault, despite no prior indications of issues during the last service?
3. Might it be an alternator malfunction or a more intricate problem?

....

Best regards,
Dev
Hello Dev (irdevanand)

Just wanted to follow up and ask what was the underlying issue.
I think it was the battery though.

Honda ASC usually does nothing for the battery other than do battery testing and charge you for the same on the bill. Ideally, most batteries require top-up of distilled water and checking the specific battery every 6 months to one year.

SF-Sonic batteries (now SF Battery) are very sensitive to regular topping off of distilled water and usually fail within 2 years of use. (personal experience)


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Radiator motor fan failure on 2014 Honda City i-Vtec

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Hello Blueberry,

Sorry, but I got a little confused while reading your post. Just wanted to clarify which City got the Radiator Fan Motor assembly replacement. The i-VTEC or the i-DTEC?

There are two fan assemblies behind the radiator in the 4th Gen Honda City i-VTEC. The co-passenger side is for the radiator and the driver side is for the air conditioning.
I have had the driver-side fan assembly fail on me twice. Initial failure was at around 1.6 L km (in 2021), and Honda ASC quoted me around Rs.20,000 for the repair (inclusive of labor). I had got it repaired outside at an FNG for Rs.5000. The Second time was in 2022 (around the 1.9 L km mark), and had got it repaired at another FNG for about Rs.4000. It is still holding strong.
The only symptom I had was that the air conditioning would not cool when at a standstill (parked or in heavy traffic). It used to cool while on the move on highways.

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Hi Team BHPians! This is my first proper post on this forum.

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5) My dad and I prefer to have halogen headlights to avoid blinding the other vehicles since we are daily victims of being blinded by cars coming with bright LED headlamps somehow always on high beam as well. Also, the halogen lamps on the car were good and gave good visibility in both low and high beams.

6) The car is well insulated and we can barely hear the engine or wind noise (maybe we feel like this because we came from a 11 year old i10), but at high speeds, there is a lot of road noise that comes in, which is pretty uncomfortable.

The bad:

1) The car has run nearly 57,000 kms in its 2 year tenure and hence has got its fair share of wounds over its body including 2 major bumps because of idiots on the road, one being a school bus and the other being a car. The bus dealt a heavy blow on the bonnet, fender and the headlights cracking open the headlight and disfiguring the front of our car. (Sad part is our insurance had expired an year ago and we had no intimation from the insurance company whatsoever and my dad had forgotten to pay it). There are a lot of minor scratches as well and I need to convince my dad to get it worked on by a good service shop.

3) The suspension is a bit hard to my liking and at low speeds the back seat becomes a tad bit uncomfortable. The car goes unscathed over most of the speed breakers and has not been a problem for me

4) The car's air conditioning seems to have a problem, the car doesn't cool the interiors as well as our previous i10, and it takes a very long time to cool the cabin. This complain was given to the service centre last time, but the issue was only temporarily solved and is back now. Need suggestions on what the issue could be, and how it can be resolved.

5) The aftermarket infotainment system that we installed is very bad considering the price we paid for it and the problems it gives us. The GPS doesn't work well and the service centre told us that they cannot rectify it for us since it is not Honda's product. The reason we installed aftermarket system was because even if we got the higher variant, it did not have Android Auto or Apple Carplay. The rear view camera tilts often and everytime the service centre keeps fixing it for us. Not sure why they've fitted a microphone when it cannot capture any audio as well. Absolute waste of money.

6) The shift from 1st to 2nd gear is hard and the gear gets stuck midway from neutral to 2nd gear very often. When we complained about this issue to the service centre, we were told that all 4th gen City's have this issue (whereas I never came across this issue in all the reviews that I read and saw).

7) The clutch plate seems to be wearing out and might need a replacement soon and the front windshield wipers are begging to be replaced.

Thanks for reading, and I look forward to giving subsequent reviews. Below are some photos I've clicked of our beautiful machine.
Hello revvingbeast,

Welcome to the Forum and Congratulations on the City. It does look beautiful in that shade of grey.

Just wanted to give a few points.

1. I found the headlights of the 4th gen to be lacking, especially on highway drives. I found the following setup optimal for my use. I upgraded the foglamps to LED, the low beam to warm-white LEDs (not the blinding pure white LEDs), and the high beam to Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited.

2. Battle scars are a part of life. If the car had to remain without any wounds, you have to not drive it.

3. Regarding the hard suspension. You have not mentioned whether you are on stock tires or have changed them. Most owners usually upsize to 195/60 tires on the stock 15-inch alloys and keep tire pressures between 30 - 34 PSI as per their comfort and requirements. Whenever you are changing your tires, try going for a softer tire such as Continental (the price is on the higher side). I would have recommended Michelin, but they have stopped making tires for 15-inch sizes.

4. Regarding the AC. Do find a good independent car AC mechanic in your city or around and get your AC serviced. (They do AC condenser and evaporator coil cleaning along with AC gas recharge). Also, I will recommend putting heat rejection sun-film on all the windows and windshields of your car. Options are available from Rs.2500 to Rs. 15000 for all glass areas. This is a grey area of our laws and I usually recommend putting lighter tint which does not put you into trouble with the police. the Garware Icecool is also another good value-for-money option (compared to 3M and V-Kool) with 20% tint and about 60-70% heat rejection. It does make a big difference with the sun overhead.

5. Regarding your head unit issues, you can take your car to any competent audio installer (look in the Team-BHP directory for reviews and details to find one in your locality)

6. The 1st-gear to 2nd-gear shift is a little notchy and hard. Do make sure to change your Manual Transmission fluid every 60,000 km. I did find some comfort after adding Liqui Moly Gear oil additive (https://amzn.in/d/3X9K8IE), but the current price of around Rs.700 might be a little prohibitive to some; and you need to add 2 tubes, as the City manual transmission uses about 2 L of fluid.

7. Might I suggest doing clutch bleeding first before swapping out the clutch? It may remove some air bubbles and make the drive a little more comfortable, and you may not even need to replace the clutch in your car at all. Honda ASC used to tell me to change the clutch at every service for my car from the 20,000 km mark. I eventually changed the clutch at about 1.6 L Kms.

8. Do change your wipers at the earliest, and whenever they leave streaks. While it makes no obvious damage, it will cause micro-scratches which over time will impair driving at night, worsening the glares caused by oncoming traffic highbeams. Repairing the windshield is impossible, and it is only replacement, which costs about Rs. 8000-15000 depending on where you get it done. Rs. 500 for a pair of wipers is peanuts compared to the safety and peace of mind. The wipers for the City are 26 inches for the driver's side and 14 inches for the passenger side. I am currently using this (https://amzn.in/d/5MtmGu0) Almost all brands, from Bosch, Michelin, 3M, etc wear out in 6-9 months. Also, cleaning your wiper blades regularly with a microfiber cloth can improve the life of the wiper and the cleaning of the glass area. A video showing the same, but the use of denatured ethanol on wiper blade rubber is another controversial topic.


9. For the road noise and wind noise, you can start with changing tires, but ultimately you would need to do entire Dampening for the car, a topic for another day.

Happy motoring once again and Wish you many happy miles with your City.
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The wipers for the City are 26 inches for the driver's side and 14 inches for the passenger side. I am currently using this (https://amzn.in/d/5MtmGu0)
The design looks neat. Can you share a picture of these wipers on your car and your review of them? My wipers are due for a change and would like to try these out.
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Hi themonster,

1) Regarding the tyres, we still have the stock tyres on. Will certainly change to the mentioned soft tyres while changing them.

2) We do have heat rejection sun films on the side windows and the back glass, not on the front glass (since they quoted a very high price) but they dont seem to make much difference, maybe the car absorbs a lot of heat because of the dark color. Will certainly have to find a good AC mechanic to do what you have mentioned.

Will certainly implement the other suggestions regarding wipers, clutch and audio.

Thankyou so much for your valuable inputs!
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Hello Blueberry,

Sorry, but I got a little confused while reading your post. Just wanted to clarify which City got the Radiator Fan Motor assembly replacement. The i-VTEC or the i-DTEC?

There are two fan assemblies behind the radiator in the 4th Gen Honda City i-VTEC. The co-passenger side is for the radiator and the driver side is for the air conditioning.
This one is the i-VTEC.
The AC was working fine. Engine was getting too hot and the car would shut down.

RCA: the radiator piping assembly had a small crack and coolant level had gone down (either a underbody hit / aged plastic part). Caused the radiator fan (Co-passenger side) to conk off as well.
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..Personally I prefer the looks of the 4th Gen City over the 5th Gen. I feel the 4th Gen is a bit more aggressive compared to the humble looking 5th Gen. ..
The 4th Gen City has the unique distinction of continuing to be sold for nearly 3 years after the launch of the 5th gen.
That shows the popularity of this design and the confidence that Honda had with its sales alongside the 5th gen. The 4th gen looks sportier and sharper compared to the 5th gen. The design flow is consistent from the front to the back with the raised tail lights that gives it a wider/upright stance at the rear.

Although the 5th gen is slightly bigger and perhaps better overall (as part of its evolutionary improvement that comes with every new generation), its got slightly middle-aged (non-sporty) looks and the rear lights are positioned lower and along with the inverted red tail light pattern, gives it a narrow/uninspiring stance from the back. The front and the rear design flow doesn't look consistent.

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Hello Dev (irdevanand)
Just wanted to follow up and ask what was the underlying issue.
Hi,

At first, everyone thought the problem was with the battery, so the Honda service center put in a new one and tested the car for a day. They even said i can take the car the same day and were ready to do the billing. But, the issue didn't go away. They figured out it was actually the alternator that needed to be changed. So, I got it replaced for 12400 plus tax. Now, the car's been running fine on the SAME OLD BATTERY for the last few weeks. No problems so far.

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