[ajay2233]

Originally Posted by insaneinsaan

Hi Deutscheafrikar,
Actually that's the one store I have yet to call. Will do so.
Ajay,
1) Steering lock you must mention if you want the larger one (I don't know exactly which models this will fit) or the smaller one (this fits my model, that is 111). I can probably get either quite easily.
2) Tank Lid would also be easily available in chrome, but with the lock and key.
3) Yokes and levers I had seen more in that shop, but I didn't want to buy and keep too many extra parts (I have sometimes regretted having a large stock of extra parts). So when I go back there I'll pick you up a set of each.
4) Can you post pics of your footrests?
5) Will ask about the rear shocks, if I get them but I think he quoted around 600 each.

There is also a shop in Mumbai which keeps a large quantity of Jawa parts. He's getting some Rajdoot parts for me as well.

Let's see what happens, in the meantime, let me know what you want.
To be honest, I don't think there's any parts I need from you, unless you can get me an electronic ignition kit for under 2500.

Hi Sirish,

Good condition Electronic Ignition kits are available in the used market, let me know if a used one is OK for you. I will find out the rates.

I have a doubt , why do you want to change from POINT type Electronic?
do you have any problem with the point type? I strongly feel the points are more characteristic of WFMs and of that age.

I will post the pics of the footrest soon.

Regarding the shocks , let me know if they are OE new ones or used ones.
Is a foto of the shocks possible? let me know the rates of the yokes and levers.

By any chance , do you have a jawa tail lamp to alter?? pls dont do that.
Jawa lamps are a collectors piece now, so preserve it

I think I should tell you this.
Was at my jawa mechanic shop yesterday, another Roadking came by and it had a RD lockless lid ,asked him if he would part with it for a lock lid ,He agreed immediately and now I have one of it , It was really a lucky day yesterday.I dont think its OE but is shines like one.

[insaneinsaan]

Originally Posted by powertwin

Yesterday, while passing a pose locality at my city saw this Bike ( a WFM Rajdoot) immediately thought a fresh sampling will help me, clicked some pics for our Friend insane...... though the Bike is not 100% stock, but it is clean decent ( No kneepads, no tail lights &stuff)
@ all plz note : Earlier WFM Rajdoots had Aluminum Chain guards
pps: & for Sure, the present owner won't sell this WFM, b'coz Bike is fitted with new Ceat Tyres & note he has highlighted the WFM in red paint
( this is Classic Bike deal physiologic....what say???)

Wow great find powertwin! The chain guard does look great in aluminium... I guess since mine is steel, the best I could do would be to chrome it or just silver paint it. As of now it's black, so that will change, thanks for pointing it out!

Otherwise parts wise, this WFM looks like it lacks the same parts as my Rajdoot did, headlight chrome crest, tank rubbers, tail light... In fact this lacks the original switch, rear footrests, and fork screw as well. That chrome crest is awfully elusive! It's good to see that the bike is being well loved.

Regarding the choke lever, did you see that in the original parts catalogue it has been referred to as "air control lever"? Shouldn't that mean decompressor?

Regarding the carburettor, I have the diagram of that also, in the parts catalog. I will check if there is a choke cable to be fitted there.

My doubt is because, in the current carb, a Mikcarb, there is a choke lever on the carb itself, and this lever is accessed through a hole in the panel. Even the Polish versions came with this hole, which SHOULD mean, they also had the choke on the carb (probably, by my logic) but I'm not sure. Which would mean however, that the choke cable and lever on the handlebar would be redundant... Why would there be 2 chokes? The bike would get strangled :-)

Maybe there's something more to it? Or are choke levers also referred to as air control levers?

[insaneinsaan]

@Ajay,
I guess I won't have any problem with a used one in good condition, but it should be complete... would be grateful for any leads.
Congrats on the lockless lid! Who would think that would be more in demand? Just because it was original. After all the locking lid can function as lockless, but not the other way around! However for daily use I use locking lid, as we have some petrol chors around!
Will try for shocks. Levers and yokes if I get they will be at pretty much standard price (100 to 200 each set)
I believe Jawa parts are still made in Delhi because people restore them, but I don't think many people like to restore rajdoots.
Which reminds me, my mechanic told me of some supplier who claims to have complete engines New Old Stock. But when I ask him for the price he is vague, and when I ask him for the contact, he's reluctant to share info (I guess it's his business secret). But I know that engines are available. I might find it too expensive but if anyone knows where these are available, I would be interested in at least being aware of the cost (in case it makes sense to buy).

[insaneinsaan]

Here are some pictures detailing some more parts which I need, there is some kind of rubber washer that goes in the handlebar, as shown. These pictures are from the net, and not pictures of anything I own (except the chassis badge which is my own)

Tank plates shown
Original Footrests
Chrome ignition surround separately and on headlight
Steering lock and seat lock
Chassis badge

[ajay2233]

Originally Posted by insaneinsaan

@Ajay,
I guess I won't have any problem with a used one in good condition, but it should be complete... would be grateful for any leads.
Congrats on the lockless lid! Who would think that would be more in demand? Just because it was original. After all the locking lid can function as lockless, but not the other way around! However for daily use I use locking lid, as we have some petrol chors around!
Will try for shocks. Levers and yokes if I get they will be at pretty much standard price (100 to 200 each set)
I believe Jawa parts are still made in Delhi because people restore them, but I don't think many people like to restore rajdoots.
Which reminds me, my mechanic told me of some supplier who claims to have complete engines New Old Stock. But when I ask him for the price he is vague, and when I ask him for the contact, he's reluctant to share info (I guess it's his business secret). But I know that engines are available. I might find it too expensive but if anyone knows where these are available, I would be interested in at least being aware of the cost (in case it makes sense to buy).

@Sirish,
I will be going to the used parts market this weekend, will look for the Electronic Ingnition kit.
The lock lid which i had all these days was actually a lockless one (lock broken )

Do you use your Bike daily ? I use it twicein a week, not more than that.

Levers and yokes , if they are of the type the pic you had posted earlier, I would be more than happy to take.

Regarding the pads, I will look for them with the spare parts dealers in Chennai. With no WFM's around, I think I should find them in some shops old parts.
Also I know a spare parts dealer in Trissur Kerala, I will PM his details so that you can get in touch with him. He has large stock of Yezdi, Rajdoot,Jawa parts.

I am retoring both my Yezdi and Jawa now.The engine works are over but the cosmetic surgery is on. I found one broken jawa tail lamp after great search. I have never tried Delhi, but till now all the parts that I get are from bengaluru/Mysuru. Will try in Delhi.

I dont think such fully built new RD engines are anywhere available in Chennai, Will try that. Do let me know if you find any leads on that, I will also look for one. Do you think it will be very expensive? I dont think so.

You rightly pointed out that none/very few people restore the Rajdoots.
But the ride on a RD is too cool. But the craze is catching on in Madras, more and more old Rajdoots are coming out these days. May be one day an active Club for the RD's can be formed.

[insaneinsaan]

Tank fuel strainer! Rare part! look out for it, it's mentioned in the Rajdoot parts catalog as well.

[voodoochild]

insaneinsaan, the bike seems like a beautiful find!! Love the Earles fork and the steering damper! The ride with this fork is absolutely a dream on bad roads. There are quite a few of these here in Bangalore, but mostly butchered and "modernised". There's one I've seen every day for 4 years, ridden by a really old man, which looks almost exactly like yours, but with the square headlight. Will take a closer look to identify it, now that I've learnt a thing or two from posts by you and powertwin (timing cover WFM logo, chaincase, taillight, etc).
Good to see your active interest taken in the restoration. Wish I had the financial abilities for something like this! Lord knows I have the interest!

Good luck with the resto
Cheers
Rahul

[ajay2233]

Voodoochild,
looks like its a yezdi on your avatar pic!!
which model? is it a classic or a Roadking?

Sirish,
I made enquiries with the used parts dealer, he says the ignition coil will be in his shop by tuesday evening, Will take my mechanic and let him examine the condition. Will keep you posted on the condition and the price.

Regards,
Ajay

[insaneinsaan]

ajay don.you mean electronic ignition KIT? because that was what I had mentioned I needed. the ignition coil is easily available new here for 175rupees.please confirm.we have found a pair of shocks for rajdoot. but do you have your old shock bottles? or are you running it without shocks?

[ajay2233]

Its the kit, not the coil.
sorry, that was a typo.
He hasn't got it yet, will be going this weekend again.

You still haven't replied on why you want to make it an electronic bike? am asking this just out of curiosity.

We are celebrating Jawa day this Sunday , so am a little occupied in getting my jawa ready for the ride. By sunday noon, I will visit this guy and I will update you


regarding the shocks, right now , its running on Gabriel make shocks.
I am looking for the original one which is there in the initial pics posted by you. The springs will also be enclosed in the two concentric cups.
Are they new or used ones? Can you post a pic please?

Cheers,
Ajay

[insaneinsaan]

Hi
@powertwin: I'm pretty sure now that you are indeed 100% right about the choke lever. It's been referred to as a choke lever on all the polish sites, and so that settles the matter without any further doubt!
@ajay, The ones we managed to obtain were not with the springs enclosed but they were nice chrome. Anyway, I will keep an eye out for the enclosed ones.
Let me know about the electronic ignition kit.
Regarding why I want it, well, I believe firmly in practical upgrades. I don't like to alter cosmetics, but if something gives me a performance/mileage/safety advantage (and louder horns and brighter lights will do exactly that) then as long as it does not change the look of the bike, I will consider it as an option, since I intend to ride the bike relatively often. I will, of course, keep the original point ignition system with me so that I have the original. I would not hesitate even to upgrade my lambretta to electronic. I just hope that the mechanics are capable of doing the job reliably.

[ajay2233]

@sirish,
If you are using the bike often, this change is necessary. You are right, we need better lights and horns, and it also does not alter the looks of the bike.
I never thought in this angle as I dont use the bike often.
Will keep you posted on the kit.

you have a Lambretta too? think you got a good collection there.
Hope you will be restoring it to its full glory!

Regarding the shocks, please do let me know if you come across those enclosed ones.

[insaneinsaan]

Unfortunately a friend already purchased the rear chrome ones with the exposed springs. If you know anyone who has any use for them, they are a handsome pair (Escorts original) and cost a reasonable 550 each.
Meanwhile the friend is looking around for used enclosed ones as he has not been able to find any new ones.
Important question: Of course, the bottle of the shock can be chromed. Is there a way to chrome the lower portion as well?
Any luck with the kit?
When I do the bike up, I think I'm just giong to use paint without lacquer... Something that will have a matte finish. I prefer the "well loved" look on this bike, and might have even decided to keep it in its current paintjob, but there is rust in some places, and I wouldn't like to let that spread.

[ajay2233]

Originally Posted by insaneinsaan

Unfortunately a friend already purchased the rear chrome ones with the exposed springs. If you know anyone who has any use for them, they are a handsome pair (Escorts original) and cost a reasonable 550 each.
Meanwhile the friend is looking around for used enclosed ones as he has not been able to find any new ones.
Important question: Of course, the bottle of the shock can be chromed. Is there a way to chrome the lower portion as well?
Any luck with the kit?
When I do the bike up, I think I'm just giong to use paint without lacquer... Something that will have a matte finish. I prefer the "well loved" look on this bike, and might have even decided to keep it in its current paintjob, but there is rust in some places, and I wouldn't like to let that spread.

Sirish,
My mechanic pointed out a few flaws in the kits we found in the shop this time.
I got to know that there are 7 latest models ( 90's models ) in the scrap yard which are going to be slaughtered soon . I am waiting for the parts from those bikes. Guess there will be a very good kit in atleast one of them.
I will certainly make my mechanic do a thorough check of it before picking it up.

Regarding the paint job,
where ever you have rust, there is a spray called dw40, spray it and after the rust is removed, apply used engine oil to it. I am doing this to my bikes when I dont use them. I stay close to the sea shore and I found this technique to be effective.

As you are in Mumbai I would suggest lacquer over paint as it would improve the paint life. Moist salty air oxidises the paint soon.

If you are going to have a matte finish , I guess you will have to keep polishing it often to keep the paint from oxidising

Chroming the Shocks is possible. While reconditioning , it will be fully dismantled. at that time chrome it and reassemble.

The Gabriel shocks on my bike are new ones which replaced the original Bottle shocks ( I was ignorant of the bike's legacy then ) in 2008.

Let me check out with my other friends who also have RD's if any one is looking at taking them. I should have told about the bottle - spring - enclosed requirement earlier.

-Ajay

[ajay2233]

I guess I have reposted the same message again.

regret it.