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Old 14th January 2018, 11:34   #25486
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Another pedestrian who tried to cross the road and died in an accident. The pedestrian certainly was very careless and stood no chance with a car hitting him that hard.
https://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/cctv...akamai-rum=off

(Caution: the link has the video of the fatal accident)
This opens up the debate on pedestrians right of way and youngsters driving cars.
Why do pedestrians take so much risk? You may have right of way at all times as per guidelines, but that is not a replacement for common sense.
Youngsters driving 'faster' cars is a recurrent discussion here and I don't want to add on anything.
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Another pedestrian who tried to cross the road and died in an accident. The pedestrian certainly was very careless and stood no chance with a car hitting him that hard.
This opens up the debate on pedestrians right of way and youngsters driving cars.
Why do pedestrians take so much risk? You may have right of way at all times as per guidelines, but that is not a replacement for common sense.
Youngsters driving 'faster' cars is a recurrent discussion here and I don't want to add on anything.
Poor guy doesn't seem at fault, the pedestrian looked like he panicked and instead of staying at the spot ran towards the road.
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The BMW X1 driver should have swerved to inner lane to avoid collision not expecting the victim to make a run for it in pure panic. Slowing down is the most effective safety feature.
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Poor guy doesn't seem at fault, the pedestrian looked like he panicked and instead of staying at the spot ran towards the road.
Exactly ! I am not sure why he ran in to the path of the car. Government should build foot overbridges and should make crossing roads at other locations illegal.
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This opens up the debate on pedestrians right of way ...
There is no debate. It's my Dad's old lesson for me as a teenage learner: "when do pedestrians have right of way?" He teased the thing out to make sure I never forgot:
Always! You are not allowed to run them over.
This is not, as I learned back then, a question for legal nitpicking! Whoever has, or has not, got the right of way, an early lesson to drivers of all ages is that it is our responsibility to avoid accidents, especially with soft, vulnerable, fragile and mortal pedestrians.

Slow down, be ready to stop, steer well clear, including taking account that they might do the unexpected.

There is no debate.

Except... there is physics, and if someone walks (or drives) into that space in which it is just not possible to stop, that's just suicide. Sadly, the driver is still probably going to get the blame.

What's needed: education all round, for pedestrians as well as drivers.

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Old 14th January 2018, 20:40   #25491
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6 people died when a car collided with a bus near Krishnagiri.
As per the news channel, the driver of the car driving from Chennai to Bangalore lost control over the car which jumped the median and went to the other side of the road before colliding with the Tamil Nadu State Bus corporation from Hosur to Chennai. 5 students in the car and the conductor of the bus died on the spot.

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The BMW X1 driver should have swerved to inner lane to avoid collision not expecting the victim to make a run for it in pure panic. Slowing down is the most effective safety feature.

In this case there would be a tendency to blame the BMW driver since it is a young guy, and a BMW, but if you look at the video carefully it is quite clear that the pedestrian was at fault. The car came to a halt almost immediately which would mean that the BMW was not very fast.
The pedestrian seems to have misjudged and the speed and the distance leading to disaster.
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The pedestrian seems to have misjudged and the speed and the distance leading to disaster.
The pedestrian seems to have crossed one lane. The driver was thus able to see that there was a person on the road. The rest has to be assumption, but, from the angle, it may be that the guy was not looking towards the oncoming traffic. That is a suicidally dangerous way to cross roads, but it also a big signal to a driver to slow and be ready to stop.

Have no idea when/if the driver braked. reluctant to judge, but would make the following general points...

-- Pedestrian should have stopped. No excuse for running over them.

-- Driver was sure that pedestrian would stop. No excuse for running over them.
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The pedestrian seems to have crossed one lane. The driver was thus able to see that there was a person on the road. The rest has to be assumption, but, from the angle, it may be that the guy was not looking towards the oncoming traffic. That is a suicidally dangerous way to cross roads, but it also a big signal to a driver to slow and be ready to stop.



Have no idea when/if the driver braked. reluctant to judge, but would make the following general points...



-- Pedestrian should have stopped. No excuse for running over them.



-- Driver was sure that pedestrian would stop. No excuse for running over them.

There is never an excuse for running over any living creature. However, sometimes there may not be enough time to judge the situation and react correctly.
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Seven passengers died when a KSRTC Airavat bus toppled into a ditch near Karekere Agriculture College, about 19kms from Hassan, around 3.30am Saturday on National Highway 75.

The accident came to light only when a few injured passengers who got down from the bus climbed out the ditch and stopped vehicles passing by. A KSRTC bus driver alerted his senior authorities and police.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/62495259.cms
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Agree, all these regulations come into existence because of the higher safety awareness level of the people which is why I mentioned that it is people (society) driven in my post.

If we as a society don't care or are largely unaware about our own safety and don't demand safer cars (by regulation or sales), most manufacturers will continue to exploit and dump flimsy unsafe cars in our market to maximize their profits
Who cares when Diesel powered Tin Cans flood the market. And Sales executives sweet talk the customers to buy less priced and less equipped(safety) variants to clear their inventories.
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A small video showing build quality of TATA cars.

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Its good that Tata cars are safe. I would still go by the official test results by NCAP or similar.

Its really wrong to judge a car's safety based on accident pictures we see. A car might just roll down when it encounters a steep ditch by the side of the road and it might not cause much damage if it rolled only once or twice without any speed in forward direction. Conditions are not something we would know and it will never be same.
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A small video showing build quality of TATA cars.
I'm not saying that TATA cars are unsafe, but the message/comment towards the end of the video is pretty uneducated. Saying that TATA cars are heavy & therefore safe and a lighter car is unsafe, shows the lack of knowledge on the subject. Heavier=Safer is a myth and has been proven again and again.

Like srishiva mentioned, a meaningful comparison can be made, only when accident conditions are the same. This statement holds good for any car.

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