Team-BHP - Road Rage - Understanding, Avoidance and De-escalating Situation

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Originally Posted by deehunk

Legal experts on this forum can educate us if an accused can skip the lower courts in such cases and directly approach the HC to avoid getting arrested because the nature of the crime is neither exceptional nor a violation of any fundamental right by a state entity.

I am not a legal expert. Sec 482 BNSS (Sec 438 Cr. PC) has a provision for seeking anticipatory bail. Sec 438 (1) Cr. PC reads "Where any person has reason to believe that he may be arrested on an accusation of having committed a non-bailable offence, he may apply to the High Court or the Court of Session for a direction under this section that in the event of such arrest he shall be released on bail; and that Court may, after taking into consideration, inter alia, the following factors...".

So basically the IAF officer has approached the High Court directly (instead of approaching the Sessions Court) and have sought anticipatory bail, which was granted. All these new terms like "coercive actions" etc seems to be sugar coating the old term of anticipatory bail. Anticipatory bail can be sought by any one who feels that police may arrest him/her for an offence which is non-bailable (i.e. bail cannot be given at the police station).

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Originally Posted by nasirkaka (Post 5962018)

Almost everyday I loose my cool. I end up shouting and showing hand to some of the vehicles who have that little extra bright light on high-beam.
I know I might get into trouble one of these days as someone may not take my protest lightly, but its really difficult to control. Why can't people drive sensibly and within the rules.

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Originally Posted by bblost (Post 5962055)

Why can't you control your rage instead?

I completely understand your anger as I am also a victim of these idiots who use hi-beams even on well lit roads.

But these inconsiderate fools have no sense.
You on the other hand already acknowledge that you may get in trouble.

It is not worth it.

Please do not misunderstand my post. I am just in my 'big brother' mode with this answer.

Talking about controlling my rage, I actually thought of keeping a high-powered searchlight-style torch in my car or bike. The plan was simple - flash it right into the eyes of those geniuses who refuse to dip their high beams, even after my polite dip-and-flash signal.

Then it hit me — if I actually blinded them, they'd probably crash straight into me... and that's not exactly the win I was hoping for :uncontrol.

So now, I just take a deep breath, channel my inner monk, and cruise past them in full zen mode.

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Originally Posted by nasirkaka (Post 5962018)

Why can't people drive sensibly and within the rules.

In such situations just slow down and avoid looking at the high beam from the on-coming traffic and try to look at the left edge of the road which are usually highlighted with yellow/white markings. Keep toggling upper-dipper switch and if the guy in front does not pay heed just follow above. Remaining calm and in control will be more useful then getting frustrated and angry. Not everyone follow's rules and there are all kinds of people on the roads.

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Originally Posted by sumeethaldankar (Post 5963936)

This is exactly what my dad told me nearly 60 years ago. One's eyes are drawn to the oncoming bright light: resist by looking at the left-hand edge of the road.

He also taught me that that is how one follows the road in thick fog. At dead-slow speed, of course. And that is part of why fog lamps are supposed to only light up the road immediately ahead, with a wider spread to left and right.

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Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom (Post 5963954)

This is exactly what my dad told me nearly 60 years ago. One's eyes are drawn to the oncoming bright light: resist by looking at the left-hand edge of the road.

But does that help when dealing with oncoming white headlights? Unlike warmer yellow headlights, I find white to be all pervasive, almost sort of sneaks in through the corners of my eyes; and needless to say - neither does it illuminate the road for its respective users, nor does it allow the other road users to see anything when confronted by it. Everyone just goes blind, it seems to me at least.

Or - it could just be me, getting transfixed by the newly opened portals of heaven, gawking in to see if the foibled pearly gates are visible in there or not. Theoretically, it should be possible to follow the same rule with white lights, the same as with yellow lights - do not look at it!

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Originally Posted by nasirkaka (Post 5962018)

My problem is with the on-coming vehicles who keep their headlight on High-beam and there are plenty of them on the road. Even when I flash in protest, they do not dip the light. Some of these modern LED headlights and additional lights are very very bright and blinding. This is very irritating and hazardous, especailly as a two wheeler rider around suburban roads.

I use a pair of polarised sunglasses - light blue tint from lenskart. An 800 rupee good jugad solution to cut down glare by half.

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Originally Posted by locusjag (Post 5963977)

But does that help when dealing with oncoming white headlights?

Well, not if they are coming head on, of course! :eek:

But seriously. Yes, it does. The more bright they are, the more necessary it is to not look directly at them. Regardless of colour or type. With the awful monster lights on the roads today, one may still be dazzled, but at least recovery time is less if one looks away.

Driving at night with several cars and two wheelers blazing high beam is a true safety hazard. Frustration and anger trigger are by-products of this menace.

I have found an effective solution. Use your sunglasses at night while driving. They dampen the high beam and in the process reduce overall visibility by a few notches. I think I can live with that.

Being blinded for a couple of seconds or allowing yourself 25% less light with sunglasses all through the night drive can be a difficult choice. Getting used to either is the key to a comfortable driving experience.

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Originally Posted by nasirkaka (Post 5962520)

Team-BHP saved me from almost getting into a road rage.

I was on my way to work this morning riding on a motorcycle. On a relatively empty Bommasandra-Jigani road, a tata ace almost hit me. The road has some large potholes spread across at many sections. I was riding peacefully when the tata ace approached me from my left and suddenly sweavered right to avoid a pot hole. In this process he almost hit me, only to be saved by my guarding angels. I got angry and overtook asking him to stop. Parked the bike in the middle of the road, put the side stand down, got off and went towards the tata ace.

Yesterday I was reading some posts on this thread and some of them played on my mind on how not to loose cool and get into trouble. The tata ace driver was a young guy, who looked sorry for his rash manouver and mumbled some excuse. I was wearing riding gear, so would have looked intimidating as well. I tried keeping my cool and told him to drive carefully as such moves could have easily tossed me off the bike. Meanwhile many vehicles piled up at the back and started honking for blocking their way. I got on the bike and rode on.

If it was not for spending some time on this thread yersterday, things could have gone differently. All is well thats ends well.

In retrospect, if the road did not have large potholes, the tata ace guy would not have done that rash manouver and would have driven straight. A lot of accidents and reason for road-rash are also related to bad infrastructure like bad roads, no street lights, unscientific speed breakers, haphazard diversions and bottle necks, etc.

Great to read this and appreciate your immediate response to the situation rather than reacting. :-)

Just reminds me the half a day I had to spend in a police station for asking a question to a police officer for honking so badly in their car. One old person lost his balance in his two wheeler that gave me the courage to still ask them only to realize even my polite way of asking still not very helpful with them rl:

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Originally Posted by ramlibalu2 (Post 5964771)

Would be nice if you could recount that incident.

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Originally Posted by nasirkaka (Post 5962018)

My problem is with the on-coming vehicles who keep their headlight on High-beam and there are plenty of them on the road.

Do what my friend has done, he's installed a glare reducing film on his front windscreen (I can't recall the brand) and also changed his spectacle lenses to zeiss driving lenses, this has vastly reduced the glare! I also have the zeiss lenses and the combination of the film and lenses does really work. You can get non powered version of the lens as well should you not have a need for spectacles.

No point loosing your cool.. Others won't change, but you can take steps to keep calm!

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Originally Posted by vividhavasthi (Post 5965188)

The film doesnt help the OP as he is riding.

@nasirkaka,
Maybe you can try getting the film placed on a couple of clear visors for your helmet?